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Well since I just got this tv (LN52B610 - Version: SQ01) and there's no calibration thread for it let me start one. The "Official Samsung LNXXB630 Owners Thread" is over 57 pages, I went throught the entire thread and copied all the settings people used. Let me know what you guys are using and which work best, maybe also what version you have since that might make a difference.


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Here are my settings using a LN40A630/S for HDTV (Bresnan cable) and for a DVD player (one minor change). My viewing room gets some day light from well behind the viewing position during the day and low overhead light from behind at night.

Mode: Movie
Backlight 4 (5 w/ Philips DVD player)
Contrast 96
Brightness 43
Sharpness 10
Color 54
Tint (G/R) G50/R50

Detailed Settings:
Black Adjust Off
Dynamic Contrast Off
Gamma 0
Color Space Custom (see below)
While Balance (see below)
Flesh Tone 0
Edge Enchancement On
xvYCC: Off

Picture Options:
Color Tone Warm1
Size Just Scan
Digital NR Off
HDMI Black Level Low
Film Mode Auto
Blue Only Off
Auto Motion Plus 120Hz Low

Sound
Plug & Play:
Entertainment Off
Energy Saving Off

Color Space:
Red - 59-2-0
Gr - 17-34-0
Bl - 0-6-36
Yel - 57-48-0
Cy - 18-36-0
Mag - 43-0-63

White Balance:
Red offset - 29, Gr - 30, Bl - 28
Red gain - 31, Gr - 29, Bl - 21
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Picture:
Mode: Movie (more settings than the Standard)
Backlight: 3 (yes even in our bright room)
Contrast: 80 (Cable 85)
Brightness: 40 (Cable 43)
Sharpness: 10 (DVD 2)
Color: 53
Tint (G/R): G50/R50

Advanced Settings:
Black Adjust: Off
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Gamma: -1
Color Space: Custom (see below)
While Balance: (see below)
Flesh Tone: 0
Edge Enchancement: On (DVD off)
xvYCC: Off (grayed out)

Picture Options:
Color Tone: Warm1
Size: 16:9
Digital NR: Off
HDMI Black Level Low
Film Mode: Auto1
Blue Only: Off
Auto Motion Plus: DVD off (TV Custom (Blur Reduction: 7, Judder Reduction: 7)

Sound:
Mode: Standard
Equalizer: Standard
SRS TruSurround HD: On
Preferred Language: English (grayed out)
Multi-Track Sound: Stereo (grayed out)
Auto Volume: On
Speaker Select: TV Speaker
Sound Select: Main (grayed out)

Plug & Play:
Game Mode: Off
BD Wise: On (don't have any BD Wise devices though)
Network Type: Cable (grayed out)
V-Chip: (Grayed Out)
Caption: (Grayed Out)
Melody: Low
Energy Saving: Off (had Low and Auto)
PIP: (Nothing yet)

Color Space:
Red - 59(45)-2-0
Gr - 17-34-0
Bl - 0-6-36
Yel - 57-48-0
Cy - 18-36-0
Mag - 43-0-63

White Balance:
Red offset - 29
Green offset - 30
Blue offset - 28
Red gain - 31
Green gain - 29
Blue gain - 21
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Here are my calibrations on the Samsung LN52B630 with a May 2009 build date. I just calibrated my UN55B8000 about 1 month ago, so heres another round of fun!!!Remember my lighting conditions are different from everybody else. So take it for what its worth. This TV is in my very dark bedroom with very little light most of the time. The only thing connected is a TivoHD running HDMI. If these dont work for you, try tweeking your settings off of mine.

Mode: Standard

Backlight: 5-6

Contrast: 92

Brightness: 52 ( I have a dark room)

Sharpness: 48

Color: 56

Tint (G/R): G54/R46

Black Tone: Off

Dynamic Contrast: Low

Gamma: 0

Color Space: Custom
Red -----Green ----Blue ---Yellow ---Cyan ---Magenta
r 50------r 0--------r 0-----r 50--------r 0------r 50
g 0------g 54-------g 0-----g 56-------r 48-----g 0
b 0-------b 0-------b 50----b 0--------b 50-----b 50


White Balance: R-offset 24
G-offset 22
B-offset 24
R-gain 25
G-gain 25
B-gain 25
Flesh Tone: 0

Edge Enhancement: Off

Color Tone: Normal

Size: Screen Fit or 16:9 (what ever is you like)

Digital NR: Auto

HDMI Black Level: Normal

Auto Motion Plus 120Hz: (This is totaly up to you since alot of people do not like 120hz on, but I do)
Custom
Blur 10
Judder 6

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#4
Mode: Movie
Backlight 4-6
Contrast: 96
Brightness: 46
Sharpness: 0
Color: 49
Tint: 51/49

Black Tone: off
Dynamic Contrast: off
Gamma:0

Color Space: Custom (minor changes)
Red 50 0 0
Green 0 54 0
Blue 0 0 50
Yellow 50 56 0
Cyan 0 48 50
Magenta 50 0 50

White Balance
22
24
23
24
21
23

Flesh Tone: 0
Edge Enhancement: off
xvYCC: off

Color Tone: Warm 1
Size: Screen Fit
Digital NR: off
HDMI: Normal (grayed out)
Film Mode: off
Auto Motion Plus: Custom 10/3
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#5
User Menu Settings
Picture Modes
o Picture Mode : Movie
o Color Temperature : Warm 2
o Aspect Ratio : 16:9
Picture Settings
o Backlight : 4
o Contrast : 95
o Brightness : 46
o Color : 48
o Tint : G50/R50
o Sharpness : 0
Advanced Settings
o Black Tone : Off
o Dynamic Contrast : Off
o Gamma : 0
o Color Space : Native
o White Balance : Factory Default
o Fleshtone : 0
o Edge Enhancement : Off
o XVYCC Color : Off
Picture Options
o Color Tone : Warm 2
o Size : 16:9
o Digital DNR : Off
o HDMI Black Level : Low
o Film Mode : Auto 1
o Blue Only Mode : Off
o Auto Motion Plus : Off
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User Menu Settings
Picture Modes
o Picture Mode :Standard
o Color Temperature : normal
o Aspect Ratio : 16:9
Picture Settings
o Backlight : 6
o Contrast : 90
o Brightness : 53
o Color : 50
o Tint : G48/R52
o Sharpness : 20
Advanced Settings
o Black Tone : Darkest
o Dynamic Contrast : Off
o Gamma : 0
o Color Space : Custom
R 50 0 0
G 0 59 0
B 0 0 50
Y 50 65 0
C 0 50 50
M 59 30 50
o White Balance : Factory Default
o Fleshtone : 0
o Edge Enhancement : On
o XVYCC Color : Off
Picture Options
o Color Tone : Normal
o Size : 16:9
o Digital DNR : Off
o HDMI Black Level :
o Film Mode : Auto 1
o Blue Only Mode : Off
o Auto Motion Plus : Off

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User Menu Settings
Picture Modes
o Picture Mode :Standard
o Color Temperature : normal
o Aspect Ratio : 16:9
Picture Settings
o Backlight : 6
o Contrast : 90
o Brightness : 50
o Color : 50
o Tint : G50/R50
o Sharpness : 20
Advanced Settings
o Black Tone : Dark
o Dynamic Contrast : Off
o Gamma : 0
o Color Space : Custom
R 50 0 0
G 0 59 0
B 0 0 50
Y 50 65 0
C 0 50 50
M 59 30 50
o White Balance : Factory Default
o Fleshtone : 0
o Edge Enhancement : Off
o XVYCC Color : Off
Picture Options
o Color Tone : Normal
o Size : 16:9
o Digital DNR : Off
o HDMI Black Level :
o Film Mode : Auto 1
o Blue Only Mode : Off
o Auto Motion Plus : Off

Color Soace
R 61 32 0
G 9 56 7
B 25 0 53
Y 50 60 0
C 17 46 51
M 60 7 46

White Balance
RO 41
GO 25
BO 25
RG 22
GG 8
BG 22

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Picture Modes
o Picture Mode :Standard
o Color Temperature : normal
o Aspect Ratio : 16:9
Picture Settings
o Backlight : 6
o Contrast : 90
o Brightness : 53
o Color : 50
o Tint : G48/R52
o Sharpness : 20
Advanced Settings
o Black Tone : Darkest
o Dynamic Contrast : Off
o Gamma : 0
o Color Space : Custom
R 50 0 0
G 0 59 0
B 0 0 50
Y 50 65 0
C 0 50 50
M 59 30 50
o White Balance : Factory Default
o Fleshtone : 0
o Edge Enhancement : On
o XVYCC Color : Off
Picture Options
o Color Tone : Normal
o Size : 16:9
o Digital DNR : Off
o HDMI Black Level :
o Film Mode : Auto 1
o Blue Only Mode : Off
o Auto Motion Plus : Off
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User Menu Settings
Picture Modes
o Picture Mode :Standard
o Color Temperature : normal
o Aspect Ratio : 16:9
Picture Settings
o Backlight : 6
o Contrast : 90
o Brightness : 53
o Color : 50
o Tint : G 50/50R
o Sharpness : 20
Advanced Settings
o Black Tone : Darker (still playing with this but it is personal preference, not a picture changer per say)
o Dynamic Contrast : Off
o Gamma : 0
o Color Space : Custom
R 60 35 40
G 15 51 0
B 17 0 40
Y 55 59 0
C 20 56 50
M 60 30 46
o White Balance : Here I toned down the red gain to 20 and green gain to 20....these seemed to help the colors that were a little too much without changing the balance of colors in the lenses. Try these if you are off a little!!!

o Fleshtone : 0
o Edge Enhancement : Off
o XVYCC Color : Off
Picture Options
o Color Tone : Normal
o Size : 16:9
o Digital DNR : Off
o HDMI Black Level :
o Film Mode : Auto 1
o Blue Only Mode : Off
o Auto Motion Plus : Off

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User Menu Settings
Picture Modes
o Picture Mode :Standard
o Color Temperature : normal
o Aspect Ratio : 16:9
Picture Settings
o Backlight : 6
o Contrast : 75
o Brightness : 58
o Color : 55
o Tint : G50/R50
o Sharpness : 26
Advanced Settings
o Black Tone : Darkest
o Dynamic Contrast : Off
o Gamma : 0
o Color Space : Custom
R 43 10 0
G 10 58 7
B 18 19 43
Y 68 27 0
C 16 46 42
M 0 26 40
o White Balance : Custom
RO 24
GO 26
BO 23
RG 22
GG 37
BG 25
o Fleshtone : 0
o Edge Enhancement : On
o XVYCC Color : Off
Picture Options
o Color Tone : Normal
o Size : 16:9
o Digital DNR : Off
o HDMI Black Level : Normal
o Film Mode : Auto 1
o Blue Only Mode : Off
o Auto Motion Plus : Custom
Blur Reduction 10
Judder Reduction 3
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#11
EDIT

OK, I'm finding that most of my settings were good, but I'm playing with these.

User Menu Settings
Picture Modes
o Picture Mode :Standard
o Color Temperature : normal
o Aspect Ratio : 16:9
Picture Settings
o Backlight : 6
o Contrast : 90
o Brightness : 53
o Color : 50
o Tint : G 50/50R
o Sharpness : 20
Advanced Settings
o Black Tone : Darker (still playing with this but it is personal preference, not a picture changer per say)
o Dynamic Contrast : Off
o Gamma : 0
o Color Space : Custom
R 60 35 40
G 15 51 0
B 17 0 40
Y 55 59 0
C 20 56 50
M 60 30 46
o White Balance : Here I toned down the red gain to 20 and green gain to 20....these seemed to help the colors that were a little too much without changing the balance of colors in the lenses. Try these if you are off a little!!!

o Fleshtone : 0
o Edge Enhancement : Off
o XVYCC Color : Off
Picture Options
o Color Tone : Normal
o Size : 16:9
o Digital DNR : Off
o HDMI Black Level :
o Film Mode : Auto 1
o Blue Only Mode : Off
o Auto Motion Plus : Off

DVE uses colored lenses and test patterns to calibrate the picture. While the lenses showed these to be good settings, I found them still a little too green and red. After making the changes to gain, the lenses didn't appear to change because the amount of gain in the colors changed, not the tint ratio between colors.
Give them a try and see if it works for you guys.
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Mode: Movie
Backlight: 8
Contrast: 95
Brightness: 45
Sharpness: 20
Color: 46
Tint: G50/R50
Advanced Settings:
Black Tone: Off
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Gamma: -1
Color Space: Custom
Red: R:50 G:7 B:0
Green: R:26 G:50 B:0
Blue: R:0 G:10 B:50
Yellow: R:50 G:42 B:0
Cyan: R:22 G:48 B:50
Magenta: R:36 G:13 B:50
White Balance:
R-offset: 25
G-Offset: 25
B-Offset: 21
R-Gain: 37
G-Gain: 25
B-Gain: 22
Flesh Tone: 0
Edge Enhancement: Off
xvYCC: Off
Picture Options:
Color Tone: Warm2
Size: Screen Fit [irrelevant to calibration]
Digital NR: Auto
HDMI Black Level: Normal [disabled]
Film Mode: Auto2
Blue Only Mode: Off
Auto Motion Plus 120Hz: Standard
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#13
Mode: Standard
Backlight: 8
Contrast: 95
Brightness: 45
Sharpness: 50
Color: 52
Tint: G50/R50
Advanced Settings:
Black Tone: Darker
Dynamic Contrast: Low
Gamma: 0
Color Space: Custom
Red: R:50 G:0 B:0
Green: R:0 G:54 B:0
Blue: R:0 G:0 B:50
Yellow: R:50 G:56 B:0
Cyan: R:0 G:48 B:50
Magenta: R:50 G:0 B:50
White Balance:
R-offset: 25
G-Offset: 25
B-Offset: 25
R-Gain: 25
G-Gain: 25
B-Gain: 25
Flesh Tone: 0
Edge Enhancement: Off
xvYCC: Off
Picture Options:
Color Tone: Nomal
Size: 16:9 [irrelevant to calibration]
Digital NR: LowAuto
HDMI Black Level: Low
Film Mode: Auto1
Blue Only Mode: Off
Auto Motion Plus 120Hz: Off
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Tweak My TV Settings
* Picture Modes
o Picture Mode : Movie
o Color Temperature : Warm 2
o Aspect Ratio : 16:9
* Picture Settings
o Backlight : 4
o Contrast : 90
o Brightness : 46
o Sharpness : 0
o Color : 48
o Tint : G50/R50
* Advanced Settings
o Black Tone : Off
o Dynamic Contrast : Off
o Gamma : 0
o Color Space : Native
o White Balance : Factory Default
o Fleshtone : 0
o Edge Enhancement : Off
o XVYCC Color : Off
* Picture Options
o Color Tone : Warm 2
o Size : 16:9
o Digital NR : Off
o HDMI Black Level : Low
o Film Mode : Auto 1
o Blue Only Mode : Off
o Auto Motion Plus : Off
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nice, I am gonna check it out see if it will improve my PQ

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nice work, I will try them out and will post back next week sometime... I have the LN52B610
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I haven't had a chance to try all these settings yet, but I think we need to estiblish 4 different types:

- 1 for Gaming (Probably with Game Mode On)
- 1 for watching movies (Blu-Rays/24fps)
- 1 for watching tv shows
- 1 for watching Sports (I would assume this is when we want TruMotion to be on)
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Someone had mentioned in another thread that the Spears and Munsil Calibration Disk is better than the DVE calibration disk, but would not explain why. Is this true (I have no idea) and why? I'm pretty happy with Movie and Natural modes, but just want to make some minor adjustments to reduce Red color saturation and improve shadow/black scene details. If I turn down color a couple of notches, the overly red saturation problem is eliminated, but then the skin tones are a little off (but not enough to cause annoyance).
I've learned to manipulate AMP settings to my liking.
To clarify, I'm not interested in doing a thorough recalibration, just want to tweak Movie and Natural modes for a little less red and improved detail in the blacks.
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I can't find an option to adjust my Magenta, Cyan and Yellow colors after choosing custom. It just shows the regular RGB... any ideas?
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What are the differences between the 10 settings above?

Has anyone done a calibration to HD (709) in a darkened room and come up with these settings?

Also can ppl post notes as to how they came up with these settings (eg Colorimeter etc)

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I can't find an option to adjust my Magenta, Cyan and Yellow colors after choosing custom. It just shows the regular RGB... any ideas?

You have to click on the "RED" at top of display (not "R"), right arrow over to get to the list of colors, and pick Yellow, Cyan, or Magenta from the drop down list.
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Hello. I have been calibrating my TV and ran into a small problem. I am following the tutorial "Greyscale for Dummies" that is online and explains how to calibrate your tv using the HCFR program and the i1 sensor. The problem is that it states to set your "Brightness" at the 10 IRE to .0065% of your "Y" value at 100 IRE. This will allow you to get your Gamma to 2.2 at the 10 IRE. I presume that this is a good thing for the darkness of screen images in this range. My issue is that this method will greatly reduce your contrast ratio. If you use the flashing bars in the AVSHD disc to set your brightness/contrast, then the results for the brightness reading is drastically different than with the .0065% method. Is this a problem? I can't adjust out my contrast anymore using AVSHD flashing bars because it is at its' highest reading now without becoming pink. Do I need to be concerned with the contrast ratio if my gamma is set properly at the 10 IRE?

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awesome work! i'll try all of these and make notes on my findings. i'm camping this weekend, and I'm not bringing the tv with me... so it will be at least a week before i get back with my results.
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My girlfriend has this TV, and man does this thing SUCK. I have tried ALL of the recommended settings I have found (although there were not that many) and none of them look good. Everything is dark to the point where I literally cannot see a thing going on in any given movie, and when I try to "brighten" it up everyone turns neon.

Either I am spoiled with my Panny ST30s picture, or there are some other "hidden" calibration settings out there I have not found yet...

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My girlfriend has this TV, and man does this thing SUCK. I have tried ALL of the recommended settings I have found (although there were not that many) and none of them look good. Everything is dark to the point where I literally cannot see a thing going on in any given movie, and when I try to "brighten" it up everyone turns neon.

Either I am spoiled with my Panny ST30s picture, or there are some other "hidden" calibration settings out there I have not found yet...

If you've got the LN52B630, watch a good blue ray with the picture set to NATURAL mode, with AMP set to clear. If your not getting an outstanding picture, then there's a problem with the TV. Make sure to reset Natural mode to factory settings, and then change Auto Motion Plus to CLEAR.

Wow, first post in this thread in close to 2 years. My 52B630 is still running strong with no glitching, fading, regurgitating.................

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If you've got the LN52B630, watch a good blue ray with the picture set to NATURAL mode, with AMP set to clear. If your not getting an outstanding picture, then there's a problem with the TV. Make sure to reset Natural mode to factory settings, and then change Auto Motion Plus to CLEAR.

Wow, first post in this thread in close to 2 years. My 52B630 is still running strong with no glitching, fading, regurgitating.................

She has the LN40B610, but I am sure they are close enough...I will give this a try, thanks!

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