Originally Posted by WaveBoy
Yet The Vizio E & M both scored higher than even the latest Sony 800B and 900B on CNET. Then again, CNET's reviewing system is also based on "how good it is for the price"
Cnets reviewing is possibly flawed or not in this case depending on the objective and by your own admission , they possibly legitimately by intent sometimes may put more emphasis on price considering their intended broad market audience rather more so than an enthusiast web site would so the scores are likely in skewed in that direction. now and then . You have to read between the lines . They seem to be a little better in that respect *sometimes with premium models but still err in that direction most of the time like most review sites . Overall Cnet does a pretty good good job if you read between the lines and in all fairness they do score the different categories independently .
☺ Vizio fan boys are wishfull thinkers . ☺
The the panel specs tell a good story anybody know what panels they use vs Sony ? vs Toshiba vs Samsung vs Panasonic
what video processing silicon ? I can answer that one off the shelf Media Tek or Marvel. OK but nothing special or proprietary like you would usually find in a tier one brand it often makes a difference .
The panels used often determines a large percentage of a sets price ..
Sometimes local dimming on a middling set can inexpensively mask an inferior panel and /or video processor board while it is pretending to be a better set than it is but that ultimately shows .
A panel must have at the least both good black levels and white levels (a superior panel ) to achieve a good contrast ratio Vizio often falls short there . Those things being with but a few exceptions such as *some* 9x Sonys or 7x/8x LG but thats another and quite technically interesting story not to mention they are expensive and don't use cheap panels and achieve the desired results with superior and not inexpensive technology .
Does anybody know who makes the capacitors inside Vizios (Sony Uses Rubycons (not cheap) the other tier one brands use similar quality . Vizio does not manufacture anything AFAIK
so their lineage would appear to be in sales.
They do some engineering /designing from what I have read how much who knows ? the OEM/ODM houses will do that all for you also .
IMO Cnet factors price in the total score as much or more than quality and that can wight the overall scores accordingly . Anybody know what grade of panels Vizio uses A,B or C, ?
I'm not sure but they might have you cut costs somewhere to meet the price points . better to buy a good set once rather than a cheap set twice .
Even Cnet says the M is not much if any better than the B models so of the P models don't step up to the plate they will still reside on the Wal Mart /Costco/Target/Rent a Center discount shelves.
People buy cheap but many want better than the bottom and that is what Vizio sells that's fine.
IMO to directly compare any Vizio on the merits of it's performance to an 8x /9x Sony or any Sony or pretend it is comparable in any way is ludicrous . Similarly with the other tier one brands such as Samsung,Panasonic ,Toshiba and LG .
Vizios are what they are, a legitimate inexpensive middling to reasonably fair set that otherwise offers a possibly better alternative to a TCL,Hisense ,Westinghouse ,Emeson ,Seiki or Dynex/Insignia much beyond that is fantasy IMO.
Maybe the P models and the reference will elevate the brand significantly not impossible , at the least the P models will give them a 4K sets. .
Product reviews sometime remind me of a story I heard . "company hires a statistician ,first question the statistician asks of his new employer is ................ What position would you like me to support "
here is some Vizio news ,
TPV will ship 16.85 million LCD TVs with Philips and Vizio to be major clients,Wistron with 3.6 million units mainly to Vizio, Amtran with two million units mainly to Sharp and Vizio,
Foxconn is currently producing TVs for Vizio in China, Vizio could be an important partner in bringing TV production to the US, according to the report. At CES 2014, Vizio showcased an impressive 120-inch LCD TV, produced by Foxconn.
This article is an excerpt from a Chinese-language Digitimes Research report.