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post #6061 of 6075 Old 10-29-2014, 12:04 PM
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Question Help?

Well,, Its time to upgrade my Sony 47" 729, i love the tv but its just too small now.. Our closest seat to the tv is 10 ft and the furthest away sofa is 15'. I went to Best Buy to look at the Sony and Samsungs on sale in ad. The Sony was the KDL60W630B for 999 and the Samsung UN60H6203AFXZA for 999 or UN60H6350AFXZA for 1199.. The Samsung 6203 wasn't on display, I'm not in a big town, but the other 2 were and looked good but of course were sitting right beside 4k tvs.... FRUSTRATING...

The Sammy was sitting beside the UN60HU8550FXZA for 2300 .. Yes i know its more expensive but it sure looked great on face tones, what a difference. Even on just their best buy feed which is supposed to be 720p unless they lie, they wouldn't do that lol.. The only was only a 55 of course, the XBR55X850B 1799 but a beautiful pic too...

so.. I have had SONY for many many years.. I don't know the difference in features in the samsung and sony models now and only have a couple of very busy days if i buy this week, I would appreciate it if someone could help me out.. Best Buy is no help and I don't really trust a salesman for "real help" anyway, sorry not trying to offend any salesmen that might be here but Ive had bad luck there.. Ive been on this forum for years and always loved it..

2nd... 4k??? I don't mind spending more now IF its worth it in the end.. I don't want to change the tv in a few years again.. So how much will it benefit now, vs the money.. or am i better to buy one of the first models and wait.. and why? IF it matters i have Charter Cable and many of my channels are 720p

thanks Guys, for any info you can give me I truly appreciate it. I have not read up on 4k yet, didn't think it would drop in price so fast and wonder why it has honestly..

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OK folks, please help me choose an LCD for around $2K:

Environment:
-Not light controlled (lots of windows, no direct sun)
-daytime to early evening viewing (separate room for night viewing/movies w/ plasma)

Usage:
-Lots of sports
-HTPC connection for streaming/gaming
-console gaming

TV's I'm currently considering:
-LG 55UB8500 or UB9500 (does anyone know if the difference in price is worth it between these two?) these do support 4:4:4 4K@60hz from PC
-Sony 55X850B (doesn't do 4:4:4 4K@60 hz, is there any upgrade path in this tv?)
-Samsung 55F9000 with future 2015 One Connect Box (hopefully will support 4:4:4 4K @ 60 hz)
-LG 55LA9700 with 2014 hardware upgrade (brings webOS and 4:4:4 4K@60hz supposedly)

What should be the favorite from this group? Is there anything else I should consider?

Thanks!!
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Back in the market.

Looking for something 70-75". Not for gaming, just TV and movies.

Budget is $1700-$2800.

Leader in the clubhouse after a quick glance around the web is the Samsung UN75H6300A from Costco, but at $2800 it's on the high side of my budget. Pretty spooked by what I've seen in the Sony 850B thread, so that's one competitor out. Anything else that I should be looking at?
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Back in the market.

Looking for something 70-75". Not for gaming, just TV and movies.

Budget is $1700-$2800.

Leader in the clubhouse after a quick glance around the web is the Samsung UN75H6300A from Costco, but at $2800 it's on the high side of my budget. Pretty spooked by what I've seen in the Sony 850B thread, so that's one competitor out. Anything else that I should be looking at?
This TV is in your budget...

http://www.vizio.com/tvs/pseries/p702uib3.html
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I was intrigued by the P Series, but I have to admit to being a bit spooked by the CNET review. http://www.cnet.com/products/vizio-p-series/
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Hello all,

I'm looking to buy a new 65" LED TV and would love some recommendations from you kind folks! Here are my requirements/usages:

Size: 65"
Budget: < $2000
3D: No (As in, I don't want to pay extra for this feature)
Usages: TV (primarily hi-def content (720p+)), Gaming (PS4, Xbox One)

I already have a nice surround setup so TV speakers are not important.

My current TV is a Samsung LED TV from about 4 years ago and I love it. I also have an LG LED TV from about 2 years ago that is noticeably worse quality (admittedly it was cheaper).

I'm biased towards either a Samsung or Sony TV.

Thank you in advance for any advice!
Your choice should be Samsung UN65H6350. The closest alternative from Sony is KDL70W850B that's $100 more than your budget but It's 70-Inch
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Back in the market.

Looking for something 70-75". Not for gaming, just TV and movies.

Budget is $1700-$2800.

Leader in the clubhouse after a quick glance around the web is the Samsung UN75H6300A from Costco, but at $2800 it's on the high side of my budget. Pretty spooked by what I've seen in the Sony 850B thread, so that's one competitor out. Anything else that I should be looking at?
You have two choices here: Samsung UN75H6350 and Sony KDL70W850B. Samsung UN75H6350 is around $2500.
If you want to try other brands, You can take a look at LG 70LB7100, Vizio M702i-B3, Sharp LC-70UQ17U. But I personally recommend Sony at the first place then Samsung.

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You have two choices here: Samsung UN75H6350 and Sony KDL70W850B. Samsung UN75H6350 is around $2500.
If you want to try other brands, You can take a look at LG 70LB7100, Vizio M702i-B3, Sharp LC-70UQ17U. But I personally I recommend Sony at the first place then Samsung.
FWIW the 70W850B Sony has a decent Samsung S-PVA panel the rest of the 10800p W800/850B models use AUO AMVA panels except the 85X950B that uses a CMO panel .


Above Sony and Samsung recommendations are very good IMO also .Vizio uses Sharp panels that tend to push red and are difficult to calibrate to accurate color from what I've read here at AVS from certified calibrators in the Vizio P owner thread .

I have a 2013 Sony LED and 2013 Samsung plasma no complaints very good pictures on both sets .

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70" IPS Panel?

Hi All,

Looking for a new TV, here are my priorities:

1. Size. 70" preferable, maybe 65" if I have to settle.
2. Price. $1400 - $2400
3. Viewing angle. IPS panel highly preferred.
4. Size/Weight. Will be wall mounted, would like to have it <70 lbs, and <2.5" thick. Not a fan of the heavy, "pyramid-like" Sonys.

I've searched a bit and saw some comments about there not being any 70" IPS TVs being made, but thought it was worth another try. Thanks for any suggestions.
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Looking for 4K LCD 65-84" unconstrained budget

Hi Everyone,

I'm looking for a new display. 4K and picture quality are paramount, all other criteria are open-ended.

1. Budget: Unconstrained; sky's the limit.

2. Seating distance: Between 4ft and 13ft (range will make sense when you read the uses / sources below).

3. Size/placement limitations: Prefer 65" to 84" due to wall size, uses and sources below. Viewing angles should be mostly in the center as the room is 10 ft x 13 ft with the desire to place the display on the 13ft wall.

4. Uses and sources: Primary use case is viewing still images for picture quality evaluation. This means image quality in the form of sharpness, high quality scaling / ability to view native 1:1 pixels without "image enhancements" changing the image, accurate color reproduction (willing to post-calibrate), and great dynamic range is crucial.

5. Room lighting: Fluorescent but image reviews will often be done with lighting dimmed or off. Brightness of the display is low priority for this reason.
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Just to update folks...I went with a Sony KDL-60w850b

Looked at a bunch of TVs. Nothing I could find actually was what I wanted...a decent picture without any smart TV stuff on it.

Not crazy about the wedge design on this TV, however in my application it is being mounted above a fireplace that is quite deep...so the wedge is hidden and its actually beneficial to have it bumped out from the wall....but I can see how this would upset people.

Sound quality is a plus...dont have surround set up right now as I sold my old system.
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I was intrigued by the P Series, but I have to admit to being a bit spooked by the CNET review. http://www.cnet.com/products/vizio-p-series/
I think he got a bad set...

http://televisions.reviewed.com/cont...-led-tv-review

This was a solid review of a P series TV set.
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I don't know if the vertical banding effects all of them ofc more problems will be reported here at AVS especially by new members (drive by's with just a few posts that just bought them ) looking for advice. Some newbies are OCD and expecting perfection beyond any LCD panels capability so a reliable statistical inference can not be made of all the W850B from that . In any event AUO makes the panels not Sony so presumably anybody else using those panels would have similar issues .


The Samsung threads are full of edge light clouding and flashlighting issues .All the Vizio threads even the new P model thread are full of all kinds of issues not limited to the occasional bad panel pick your poison .

Sony W850B Looks like 3-5 days out on delivery at B.B. local area stores here . I haven't read any reliable info about B.B not carrying the W850B for the rest of 2014 model run . Not too many large panels without some kind of issues check out the owners threads around here pick your brand. The trick is to get one with the least visible issues no such thing as a perfect LCD panel AFAIK .

I would take my chances with Sony or Samsung maybe even LG . My 2013 Sony turned out very well so did my 2013 Samsung plasma. The 2013 LG here is fine also just not quite as good as the other two but not bad at all go figure.
I have a 2012 51" Sammy plasma and honestly it's great, I watch a lot of sports. If u ignore 4k content, is getting a new 4k tv led going to be a upgrade in any way for me? Or does plasma still have a leg up on 1080 vs led
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I have a 2012 51" Sammy plasma and honestly it's great, I watch a lot of sports. If u ignore 4k content, is getting a new 4k tv led going to be a upgrade in any way for me? Or does plasma still have a leg up on 1080 vs led
If you watch TV from 4-5 ft away maybe it will be an upgrade in resolution any further than that is debatable YMMV. Some folks like upscaled 1080p TBH I haven't spent enough time watching a 4K LCD set playing upscaled 1080p to form an opinion and there isn't enough affordable 4K content *for me * to make it worth buying a set for 4K .

I cant see where too many LCD sets would be an upgrade in P.Q from a decent Plasma unless you get into some real spendy stuff with Samsung or Sony or if you have a real bright room . ofc I haven't seen the Vizio P so I can't state anything based on actual experience with a Vizio P model YMMV .I'm not planning on changing out my 2013 60" Sammy plasma for a while.

I've seen some spendy Sony and Samsung 4K sets briefly playing special 4K demo loops at B.B. they looked pretty good but so do the same or similar mfr. 4K Demo loops I downloaded and played from a PC downscaled to to 1080p on my Sony LED and Samsung plasma again YMMV ofc the 1080p Samsung f8500 plasma and LG OLED beat out all the 4K LCD sets at the V.E. shootout that's good enough for me. .

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I think he got a bad set...

http://televisions.reviewed.com/cont...-led-tv-review

This was a solid review of a P series TV set.
Thanks for that link. And thanks to everyone else for their input. Still weighing my choices, but it's definitely down to the 70" P-Series v. the 75" Samsung.
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