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post #6181 of 6208 Old 11-21-2014, 05:58 PM
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Hey all! Great thread and just what I need right now. I've come to AVS for advice on my last two HDTV's and it's time to upgrade around xmas/boxing day.

I'm coming from a 40" Samsung 240hz smart-ish TV from about 4 years ago. It's still running but we want to move it into the bedroom and go a bit bigger with the main set.

1. Budget: $900-1100 (CDN)
2. Seating Distance: 9-10 feet
3. Size/Placement: 50-55" on a table.
4. Uses and Sources: Pretty even mix of TV/Sports (Hockey games) , Bluray, PC/PS4 gaming.
5. Room Lighting: Pretty dim livingroom. No direct sunlight on it at any time.

I am not interested in 3D or 4K at all. I do enjoy having a built in DLNA player as I run a server in the house but I could forgo it if I had to for better picture quality. I'm somewhat concerned about input lag but my current set is 80ms even in game mode so as long as it's an improvement I'm not too worried.

I'd probably prefer to stay with Samsung or maybe a Sony but I'm open to other brands if they have the quality. I'd say picture quality is my main focus.

Thanks all!
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Hey everyone- just resurrecting this request which I don't believe was ever replied to. Anyone have any thoughts here? Thanks in advance!
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LG 55LB6100 vs Vizio M522i vs Vizio E550i

Debating between the LG 55LB6100 vs Vizio M522i vs Vizio E550i.

I understand that some folks prefer the E series over the M, and the cost savings makes it attractive. Otherwise, the M series Vizio and the LG are the same price and seem to be the same spec.

Is there a difference in general build quality between LG vs Vizio? Is one of these accepted to be a better set?
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Samsung un65H7150 or Vizio M702i-B3

Hey Guys, I am in the process of figuring out what set to buy. I've been reading so much information lately my head is starting to swim . I do have it narrowed down to these two models and would appreciate input from any of you as to what you would pick. They are both priced around the same where I am and I have read favorable reviews on both. Btw, I love this forum, it's been a wealth of info!
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Hey Guys, I am in the process of figuring out what set to buy. I've been reading so much information lately my head is starting to swim . I do have it narrowed down to these two models and would appreciate input from any of you as to what you would pick. They are both priced around the same where I am and I have read favorable reviews on both. Btw, I love this forum, it's been a wealth of info!
Sorry, the two models are the Samsung UN65H7150 or the Vizio M702i-B3
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Spent the afternoon at Best Buy.... so many choices...

Here's what I'm looking at....

Budget: ~$2500

Size: 60"-65"

Placement: Eye-Level while sitting on a couch

Seating Distance: 10'

Uses: Sports, Movies, and daughters play Wii U

Source: Cablevision cable

I came away considering 3 alternatives:

1. Sony XBR65X850B (~$2500)
2. Samsung UN65HU8550FXZA (~$3000)
3. Samsung UN60H7150AFXZA (~$1300)

I would appreciate a recommendation or the suggestion of a better alternative.

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Basement almost done, time to buy soon!

Finishing off the basement. Gonna be done in a few weeks, and planning on the Superbowl sales for a time frame to purchase (darn wife won't let me buy during Black Friday madness--too soon!!) my new set. Looking for some real world feed back from you, the user/experts.

Budget -- $2000-$2500

Size: 70+"

Placement: Wall with tilt mount.

Seating Distance: appx. 10'

Uses: Movies (blu-ray and Netflix/Amazon Prime), TV (gaming will be on a separate 40" set)

Source: Over the Air Antenna, Blu-Ray, Apple TV

Here are some models I have it narrowed down to:

Sharp LC-70TQ15U (seen on sale for under $2000)
Samsung UN75H6350 or UN75H6300
LG 70LB7100
Sony KDL70W850B

SO, big question is, my priority is PICTURE QUALITY, not 3D (which would be a perk but not needed) or any Smart Features. That said, for the money, am I better off finding a 65" 4K model from one of these companies in the $2500 range? I do want something 70+ in the long run, but this TV will have to last me at least 5+ years.

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Looking at purchasing a TV from costco asap. Models I am considering are both Samsung 65" sets.

H6300 - $1170
H6203 - $990

I had also considered the higher end H7100 for $1480, but figured I didn't want to pour that much money into a dying 1080p technology. Looking for something to hold me over till 4k and hopefully led come down to reasonable levels for 60"+ sizes.

I realize the main differences between the 2 models is faster processor for a smoother smart tv experience, nicer looks, and 2 more hdmi inputs, but not sure that is worth the $180 price difference? 2 HDMI inputs isn't great, but I will be using a receiver so not a big deal (though I guess resale value is hurt somewhat). I was actually able to compare all 3 models mentioned at a local hhgregg today. Unfortunately, they only had some college football showing. Watching that though, I didn't notice a huge difference between any of the models. The higher refresh rate and the dimming tech on the 7150 didn't produce a drastic improvement in my opinion. Wish I could have seen some blu ray footage, but that wasn't a possibility.

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Looking for 70" 4K w/ 3D

I am looking for a 70" 4K TV with active 3D support. I prefer a matte finish or good anti-glare support as the TV will be facing large windows. I'm hoping to get a deal but am willing to look up to $4K though under $3K strongly preferred. I don't like the washed-out look of Sharps. I did look at the 70" Visio P-Series and really liked the image quality of the ones in the stores. I'd snatch that up if it had any 3D support at all.

Any suggestions on both great TVs and great values with these constraints?

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Looking at purchasing a TV from costco asap. Models I am considering are both Samsung 65" sets.

H6300 - $1170
H6203 - $990

I had also considered the higher end H7100 for $1480, but figured I didn't want to pour that much money into a dying 1080p technology.
I bought a 55-inch Samsung 4K for $898.00 and absolutely thrilled at the clarity and quality of upscaling. Anyone who says that 4K is not of much value for 1080p sources is absolutely wrong. I watched Jimmy Fallon last week and let me tell you ... it was like being there. Remember that blue curtain behind which he walks out from? ... that curtain looked silky smooth. Science and Nature shows look spectacular. Animated shows are out of this world - all sources were 1080p.

Also, anyone who says that a 4K set is only useful if you are sitting very close ... thats wrong too ... my wife commented that everything look very smooth ... and she was standing near the kitchen ... about 14 feet from where the 55-inch set was sitting. Its true .. Football never looked better ... the jerseys and helmets had a smooth sheen to them. Very happy. See my other threads for specs and review.
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32" Bedroom LED


Sony - 720p KDL32R330B - $199 Best Buy

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Samsung 1080p UN32EH5000FXZA - $229 Best Buy


Sony Quality and Style at 720p, or Samsung 1080p, just because I gain the resolution.

I will be viewing it from 7 feet away. I prefer the style of the Sony, and recently gave up my HD Sony CRT (also in the Bedroom) when I moved, which I absolutely loved.

Price difference doesn't bother me. Most of the content I will be watching in the bedroom are ripped DVD's up-scaled through a WD TV Live streaming player. On occasion I will watch Blu's in the bedroom, but usually they are reserved for my Panasonic 60" Plasma.

Can't believe this decision is so difficult for me, usually I'm the first to advise others, but LCD and LED's are foreign territory to me, and this will be my first. I am asking for help...
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32" Bedroom LED


Sony - 720p KDL32R330B - $199 Best Buy

or

Samsung 1080p UN32EH5000FXZA - $229 Best Buy


Sony Quality and Style at 720p, or Samsung 1080p, just because I gain the resolution.

I will be viewing it from 7 feet away. I prefer the style of the Sony, and recently gave up my HD Sony CRT (also in the Bedroom) when I moved, which I absolutely loved.

Price difference doesn't bother me. Most of the content I will be watching in the bedroom are ripped DVD's up-scaled through a WD TV Live streaming player. On occasion I will watch Blu's in the bedroom, but usually they are reserved for my Panasonic 60" Plasma.

Can't believe this decision is so difficult for me, usually I'm the first to advise others, but LCD and LED's are foreign territory to me, and this will be my first. I am asking for help...
If you are upscaling DVD to 1080P go for the 1080p set otherwise the Sony 720P will have to downscale it once again to the 720p panel resulting in 2 re scales not usually a good thing it's been my experience 480p DVD upscales better to 1080p than 720p of those two I would choose the Samsung

You might want to get a 40" instead when going from a 32" 4:3 CRT to a 16x9 panel the 32" 16x9 will still seem too small because we always perceive height as being bigger IOW to replace a 32" 4:3 screen with a 16x9 screen get a 40" 16x9
trust me on that one. A 7' distance it's just about right for 40-50" 32" 16x9 is maybe good at ~5-6 ft ☺☺

I bought a 40" Sony for the bedroom early this year to replace a 32" Toshiba LCD I bought the year ( good set just too small) Now I want a 50-55 " maybe 4K in there it has Dish, OTA ,Roku and PC connected to it if I upsize it will be a Samsung or Sony

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If you are upscaling DVD to 1080P go for the 1080p set otherwise the Sony 720P will have to downscale it once again to the 720p panel resulting in 2 re scales not usually a good thing it's been my experience 480p DVD upscales better to 1080p than 720p of those two I would choose the Samsung

You might want to get a 40" instead when going from a 32" 4:3 CRT to a 16x9 panel the 32" 16x9 will still seem too small because we always perceive height as being bigger IOW to replace a 32" 4:3 screen with a 16x9 screen get a 40" 16x9
trust me on that one. A 7' distance it's just about right for 40-50" 32" 16x9 is maybe good at ~5-6 ft ☺☺

I bought a 40" Sony for the bedroom early this year to replace a 32" Toshiba LCD I bought the year before now I want a 4K 50-55 "in there if I upgrade it will be a Samsung or Sony


The CRT was a Sony KV- 30" 16:9 (at 200 lbs). So 32" will actually be 2 inches larger. In the past, I've loved Sony's picture controls and image quality. I have had bad experience with the color of Samsung Plasmas going bad. In all honesty, I hate to have to buy an LED/LCD at all. I had promised myself that the next TV I would buy, small or large, would be OLED, but for $200, It's a no brainer to hold me over.


You bring up a good point on the scaling, I just confirmed the WDTV Live can up-convert to 720p, so I would only need to scale it once. Last point to make is most of the movies I watch in the bedroom are classic films, 1920's to 1970's, so a lot of black and white images. They don't usually require the sound system in my home theater. I've looking for more of a matte/smooth finish, than I am a vivid/sharp image.


Contrast on the Sony is 1,000,000:1 Dynamic Contrast Ratio; I'm unable to find any specs on contrast ratio on the Samsung.

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I bought a 55-inch Samsung 4K for $898.00 and absolutely thrilled at the clarity and quality of upscaling. Anyone who says that 4K is not of much value for 1080p sources is absolutely wrong. I watched Jimmy Fallon last week and let me tell you ... it was like being there. Remember that blue curtain behind which he walks out from? ... that curtain looked silky smooth. Science and Nature shows look spectacular. Animated shows are out of this world - all sources were 1080p.
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Also, anyone who says that a 4K set is only useful if you are sitting very close ... thats wrong too ... my wife commented that everything look very smooth ... and she was standing near the kitchen ... about 14 feet from where the 55-inch set was sitting. Its true .. Football never looked better ... the jerseys and helmets had a smooth sheen to them. Very happy. See my other threads for specs and review.
$898 for 55 4k samsung.....WHERE????
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The CRT was a Sony KV- 30" 16:9 (at 200 lbs). So 32" will actually be 2 inches larger. In the past, I've loved Sony's picture controls and image quality. I have had bad experience with the color of Samsung Plasmas going bad. In all honesty, I hate to have to buy an LED/LCD at all. I had promised myself that the next TV I would buy, small or large, would be OLED, but for $200, It's a no brainer to hold me over.


You bring up a good point on the scaling, I just confirmed the WDTV Live can up-convert to 720p, so I would only need to scale it once. Last point to make is most of the movies I watch in the bedroom are classic films, 1920's to 1970's, so a lot of black and white images. They don't usually require the sound system in my home theater.


Contrast on the Sony is 1,000,000:1 Dynamic Contrast Ratio; I'm unable to find any specs on contrast ratio on the Samsung.
Dynamic contrast is meaningless marketing . Static contrast measured with a colorimeter w/ ANSI checkerboard pattern is the best way . Samsung has VA panel so I would expect ~ 4000: 1 (or more ) static contrast ,OK for LCD ,

The Sony 32 has IPS panel and only 1529 : 1 Contrast blacks will be grey at night very poor contrast .

Published Reviews on the Sony 32" 720p this year aren't very good or up to the level of the other size Sony reviews again of the two I would choose the Sammy or a 40" + Sony ( all are VA panels exc. some of the XBR 9x ) I think the 32" 720P is Sony's red headed stepchild.

My 2013 Sony has 4750 :1 CR after calibration (Samsung panel) if you can find an LCD with that you will have near plasma blacks on the 2014 Sonys you have to get to the W800/W850 models or above to get that although the new Sony R3/R4 /R5 and W600B that all use VA panels should be OK as long as they are over 32" . . Check this link out http://www.rtings.com/
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I'm looking for a 46-50" TV. I've narrowed it down to either the KDL48W600B and KDL50W800B. Don't care about 3D.

Is the difference in picture quality big enough to justify the additional $200-250 the W800B costs? Or should I just pocket the difference and save it for the next TV upgrade a couple years down the road, when 4K is finally mainstream?
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I'm looking for a 46-50" TV. I've narrowed it down to either the KDL48W600B and KDL50W800B. Don't care about 3D.

Is the difference in picture quality big enough to justify the additional $200-250 the W800B costs? Or should I just pocket the difference and save it for the next TV upgrade a couple years down the road, when 4K is finally mainstream?
2014 Sony W600B Black: 0.026 cd/m2 Contrast: 3500 : 1 Samsing SPVA

2014 Sony W800B Black: 0.020 cd/m2 Contrast: 5260 : 1 AUO MVA5

2014 Sony W850B Black: 0.026 cd/m2 Contrast: 4273 : 1 AUO MVA5

As you can see the W800B and W850B have significantly better MIL ( blacks levels ) and contrast (better panel ) and arguably superior video processing I would absolutely go for the W800B over the W600B if I could swing it .

4K probably won't be mainstream in a couple of years at least on SAT ,OTA or CATV it will take much longer than that .

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2014 Sony W600B Black: 0.026 cd/m2 Contrast: 3500 : 1 Samsing SPVA

2014 Sony W800B Black: 0.020 cd/m2 Contrast: 5260 : 1 AUO MVA5

2014 Sony W850B Black: 0.026 cd/m2 Contrast: 4273 : 1 AUO MVA5

As you can see the W800B and W850B have significantly better MIL ( blacks levels ) and contrast (better panel ) and arguably superior video processing I would absolutely go for the W800B over the W600B if I could swing it .
Thanks - this is one of those things that's hard to tell in a store's brightly lit display aisle, even when a W600B and a W800B are side-by-side playing the same video.

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4K probably won't be mainstream in a couple of years at least on SAT ,OTA or CATV it will take much longer than that .
Indeed, but I anticipate the rest of the ecosystem (HDMI, consoles, Blu-ray, Netflix, etc. etc.), which moved from 720p to 1080p years ago, will shift to 4K much more quickly than broadcast TV will. And I'm sure that by that time, 4K will be the baseline for all TVs and everyone will be talking about the new high-end 8K models.
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Debating between the LG 55LB6100 vs Vizio M522i vs Vizio E550i.

I understand that some folks prefer the E series over the M, and the cost savings makes it attractive. Otherwise, the M series Vizio and the LG are the same price and seem to be the same spec.

Is there a difference in general build quality between LG vs Vizio? Is one of these accepted to be a better set?
I've actually now added the Panasonic TC-55AS530U to my consideration set. Any suggestions between these 4?
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Does anyone know if either the Samsung UN40H6203 or Samsung UN405203 are good TV's? Is it worth the upgrade to do the 6023? Or should I just stick with Vizio? I don't care about the streaming services: I have a PS3, Chromecast, and will have a Fire Stick in the next month.
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Does anyone know if either the Samsung UN40H6203 or Samsung UN405203 are good TV's? Is it worth the upgrade to do the 6023? Or should I just stick with Vizio? I don't care about the streaming services: I have a PS3, Chromecast, and will have a Fire Stick in the next month.
I came here looking for the same thing. Add the Samsung UN40H5500 to the list also. How do these 3 TV's measure up against the other similarly priced 40 inch TV's? I'm most concerned with gaming and picture quality.
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Right now I have the Sony w850a in my living room connected with the white ps4.

I'm thinking of moving the ps4 in my room and wall mounting the tv in front of my bed. So I can play it even more relaxed. and get the W850B for the living room.

Between the w850a and w850b. Which one would be good for movies and which one for gaming. One will be in the living room for movies/cable, the other in the room for the ps4/gaming.
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Sony XBR79x900 versus Samsung 75U8550
I have given up on waiting for OLED at this point. I have a newly built media room and need a TV I can hang on the wall and be happy with for a while. My budget was $5k for a TV. I can get a 75" Samsung U8550 for a hair under $5k or I can stretch the budget to $5600 and get the Sony. The Sony is bigger and has passive versus active 3D. However, the Sony has those ugly speakers on the side I won't need with a surround sound processor, and may be less future proof as the Samsung has the One Connect box I can buy should things change next year. I have also read their implementation of Active 3D is pretty good. I have not and don't expect to watch a great deal of 3D so not sure how much of a factor that is. We will sit about 9' away from the screen and I plan on streaming 4K some as it becomes more available. Any thoughts on whether one or the other is a better TV for our purposes??

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Thanks - this is one of those things that's hard to tell in a store's brightly lit display aisle, even when a W600B and a W800B are side-by-side playing the same video.



Indeed, but I anticipate the rest of the ecosystem (HDMI, consoles, Blu-ray, Netflix, etc. etc.), which moved from 720p to 1080p years ago, will shift to 4K much more quickly than broadcast TV will. And I'm sure that by that time, 4K will be the baseline for all TVs and everyone will be talking about the new high-end 8K models.
Right now there are only 4 or 5 TOTL 4K sets than can display full HDR (high dynamic range ) 4 K color anyway 4K DVD players might trickle out sometime next year (nothing to play on them yet ) they aren't even making 4 K consumer content in any volume at the studios yet . It's going to be longer than 2 years it took ~10 yrs for 1080i/1080p to become mainstream and half of the broadcasts are still 720p . OTOH I think a 4K set can be useful as a large PC monitor if you have a video card with the power to push 2160p/ 60 and a set that supports it or even 2160p/30
that most 4K sets support today .

Broadcast , cable/ sat is HD lite and not really true 720p /1080i/1080p TV aren't mfrs put the cart 4Kway before the horse even before the standards were finalized a lot of 4K sets today won't be able to take advantage of HDR (the main benifit of HDR and 4K as opposed to pixel count ) desperately hoping to sell more sets that's all. The KDL48W600B should be decent anyway good luck with whatever you decide.

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With the price of a 55-inch from a reputed manufacturer selling for less than $1000 ... which is about the same price as some 55-inch 1080p sets ... it makes little sense to not jump to 4K.

I am very happy with the set. Will there be problems that might crop up in the future ... sure ... but that applies to any set (thanks cheap manufacturing) regardless of the cost. The panel lottery applies to sets that cost two to three times what my set costs ... so no regrets.
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I doubt about the quality

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Pre Black-Friday at HHGREGG and TIGERDIRECT. Amazon matches if you call them.
I think this is the model you guys are talking about BB and AMAZON will offer it for $900.00 for BF.

I'm just a little bit unsure about a tv built specially for Black friday. I've been reading tons of info and a few threads here questioned the quality of the tv even though it's a Samsung.

Now I'm looking to get a tv for black Friday and I'm torn between :

Samsung UN60H7150 60-Inch 1080p 240Hz 3D Smart LED TV


Samsung UN55HU7250 Curved 55-Inch 4K Ultra HD 120Hz Smart LED TV (Black Friday Special)

and finally the
VIZIO M602i-B3 60-inch 1080p Smart LED TV

Could you guys help a little bit? I don't want to spend over $1,300.00 and anything I save on deals go towards a PS4.
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Hey I am looking to upgrade from my 32' Samsung 720 to something better. I have heard conflicting information that its not good to get tv's during BF and to wait till Cyber Monday. Anyways my budget is $500 doesn't need to a smart tv I have other devices for that. I just need something to stream movies and play my xbox one. I was in target today and talked to the buy in tv dept and he didn't recommend Vizio at all. He said they get a lot of returns on that brand. So I am caught between either - also for gaming will I do better on a 120ghz? Also is Best Buy's Insignia any good?

Best Buy
Samsung 46' for $399 1080/60ghz Model# UN46EH5000FXZA

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Samsung 46' for $499 1080/120ghz Model UN46H203FXZA

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LG $389 1080/60ghz Model# 49LB5550 49

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