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Old 12-18-2014, 12:29 PM
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Looking to upgrade from the old 32-inch Sony that we've got now. Based on my research here, I think I've settled on the 50-inch Toshiba 50L1400U (on sale at BB for $450).

Criteria is that I wanted something with low lag for games and sports, decidedly un-smart (I've got plenty of smart sticks for that), and around $500.

Did I choose wisely? Or is there another set I should consider before I pull the trigger?
Bang for the buck for a 50" that's a good choice. You can always find better but at a higher price.
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Thanks, Andy! Good to hear that I got it right!
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Looking to upgrade from the old 32-inch Sony that we've got now. Based on my research here, I think I've settled on the 50-inch Toshiba 50L1400U (on sale at BB for $450).

Criteria is that I wanted something with low lag for games and sports, decidedly un-smart (I've got plenty of smart sticks for that), and around $500.

Did I choose wisely? Or is there another set I should consider before I pull the trigger?
Published reviews are mixed but a lot of consumer reviews are very favorable on the 50" Toshiba one of my 5 sets here is a 2013 Toshiba it has a very good bright picture although I replaced and repurposed it for a larger Sony nothing is wrong with the Toshiba picture at all I just wanted a bigger set in this room .

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So I am looking to buy my dad a TV for xmas for his living room hopefully between 75" - 80". I am thinking he wants a big TV so I'm looking at 80" sets, and am willing to go go down to 75" and maybe even 70", but would like to stay closest to 80" as possible? Any recommendations -- So far I have been looking into the 80" Vizio or Sharp 80UQ17U and Sharp LC-80LE650U. Any thoughts?
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I am looking for a good 60" LCD, and coming from plasma. I don't want 4k and black levels are huge for me. Also color accuracy. Pretty much the most plasma-like LCD out there that is reasonably affordable. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

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HI everyone,

I thought I would pick the brains of the AVS community and ask the experts for suggestions.

Looking for a LCD for the living room.

Distance from TV- 7 feet

Chairs offset to side are 5 feet away. Dining table where we also watch is 15 feet away and kitchen is 20 feet away.

Budget - under $2000


TV in open concept living room. kitchen in same area. Windows all around room. Have blinds but room will never be pitch black. So I would need something that wouldn't show too much glare during the day.

My Sony crapped out with a white screen so need to replace that. Went to Best Buy but they didn't really help. They were pushing Samsungs. Not sure if those are better (I've only had Sony's) for Smart TV options, colour, black intensity, etc. Also unsure if going 4K is good or not to do right now as there's not much content. But if I do go 4k, I want one which is the safest for future proofing.

Any input would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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You don't mention a size preference so my best advice is to make sure you get a IPS panel for reflections. Your price range allows for a very wide choice. Read some reviews on CNET, Amazon etc, research different models here at AVS, narrow it down to 3 or 4 choices then shop based on price. Consider buying from Costco because they have a 90 day return policy and they double the factory warranty. If everything is equal go for size.
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You don't mention a size preference so my best advice is to make sure you get a IPS panel for reflections. Your price range allows for a very wide choice. Read some reviews on CNET, Amazon etc, research different models here at AVS, narrow it down to 3 or 4 choices then shop based on price. Consider buying from Costco because they have a 90 day return policy and they double the factory warranty. If everything is equal go for size.
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ips panels can be more or similarly (usually more ) reflective as VA panels .OTOH IPS panels usually offer a wider view angle but trade off poor black levels and contrast in the deal .( see attachment : note LG IPS panel sets below. )

At 15-20ft a 70" would be something to consider .

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Thanks for the replies..I forgot to mention in my first post that I'm looking for a 50 inch. Could go up to a 55 inch. Don't have room for much bigger. If there are any recommendations here let me know..Im would like to go for a Samsung or a Sony.

Thank you tubetwister for the info on viewing angles.
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4k 2160p

Sony XBR55X850B

Samsung UN55HU8550FXZA

Vizio Model: P552UI-B2 ( IPS panel ) not as good of black or contrast as the other 2 sets w/VA panels probably fine for daytime or lights on though.

Vizio also has a 50" P model with a VA panel

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2K 1080p

Sony Model: KDL55W950B

Sony model KDL55W800B

Samsung Model: UN55H8000AFXZA

Samsung model : UN55H7150AFXZA

All sets here are VA panels except the 55" Vizio . At 15-20ft 1080p should be fine OTOH some of the better features ,panels and picture enhancements are sometimes reserved for 4K sets .

Of these sets the 4K models have brighter panels and 4K will usually be better at 5 ft even when 1080p is upscaled by the TV maybe not so much so at farther distances.

Personally I might give a look at the Sony and Samsung 4 K sets but any of these Samsung and Sony 2K 4K sets should be pretty goood . The Vizios seem to have some video processing issues .

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4K TV and which or just a HDTV?


I am stuck on which 55" TV to buy. I have spent countless hours reading reviews and comments and, while I have limited my choices, am hopelessly deadlocked on which direction to go.

Fire off......should I buy a 4k or go with just a HDTV?

General concerns/information:
- The room this TV goes in is usually dark
- Don't own a BluRay player and get movies through Netfilx (on my computer currently)
- Don't use my TV for gaming or watching sports and don't care about 3D
- I sit normally 7' away so I am at the threshold for seeing 4k with a 55" TV.

If I bought a 4k TV my choice is between:

- Samsung UN55HU8550
- Sony XBR-55850B

I know current content is low atm but my main concerns with 4k are:

- Will normal network/cable TV upscale fine or will it look horrible?
- Is 4k worth the price if my main use is network/cable/Netflix or is this just overkill? (even a few years out)
- 4k TVs have better performance/components but again, worth the price?

Pros/Cons:

- Sony 850B generally suffers from uniformity and some edgelight bleed (which is fine for normally lit rooms but not good for dark rooms)
- Sony has better color but not the best blacks.

- Samsung 8550 has excellent blacks but not the best color.
- Better for darker rooms.
- Samsung also has better features and is generally more user friendly.


OR should I save 600 bucks and just buy a HTDV now and then a 4k down the line?


If I did so my choices would be between:

- Samsung UN55H7150
- Sony KDLW 800B (or 700)


And last......- When should I buy? Should I buy now or wait a couple months for the superbowl sales and 2014 model clearances?


thanks for and all help!
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Can someone shed some light here please? Trying to decide between these two models.

Sony KDL55W700B and the Sony KDL60W630B

From what I've read here the 630B is ideal for gaming.

I watch a lot of sports, xbox one/ps4 and blu ray. Not into 3D and if it has it I would probably not even use it which is why I've ended up with these two sets.

The 700B is also $300 cheaper. $799 at Best Buy right now. Is there a reason I should get one over the other? Price isn't a factor and neither is size, I will be content with the 55 or 60, but I am not opposed to saving $300 if the sets are equally good.

Or if there's another tv out there you guys recommend let me know! Thanks!
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Hey all,

I figured I would post here first before creating a new thread.. So I bought the 65" Vizio from Walmart on Black Friday, I saw it online and it was advertised as the E series NOT the D series which is apparently a lower quality/cost model. They wouldn't match their price on the 65" E series even though I brought in proof that was the model advertised. So when it arrived at the store I didn't even take it home, I just got a cash refund as I won't support those kinds of business practices. Anyways, so I'm really looking in the 65-70" range and it will be used for #1 Gaming w/ Xbox One and #2 HD Movies & TV shows. I've pretty much settled on the 70" Vizio e700i-b3 for $1,299 from Amazon.

Does anyone have this set? How is it? Would you recommend it? If you wouldn't recommend it, is there a similar size TV in that price range that would be better? I sit about 10.5' away from the TV in a light controlled room so reflections / bright light viewing aren't an issue. After all the reviews on rtings.com and picking based on cost, input lag and picture quality I think that the e700i-b3 is going to suite me well, especially coming from a 51" Toshiba LED.

Any suggestions and/or comments are much appreciated.

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Where to shop for a 40-42" SMART LED?


We watch a good bit of streamed video. Seems like all the TVs in my budget price range <500 are only wireless. Would prefer ethernet connection to cut down on buffering/wireless interuptions. But maybe reconfiguring/tuning my router might make this a non-issue. Room is wired with Cat6, have recessed overhead lighting on dimmers. Have DTV and Genie at downstairs location. Don't really want a separate ROKU/AppleTV on the master bedroom set, but if the price is right on non SMART TV, it may make sense to add ROKU/Apple TV. Looking to stay away from LG. A Samsung that would eliminate the need for a DTV box here might be good. Will probably add a sound bar later; Advice appreciated. Thx.
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Best set for my 70 year old parents
Picture quality and low reflections are more important than 4K and Smart Apps-will never be used.
Already have a universal RF remote.

1. Budget
$750-$1300

2. Seating distance
Roughly 12' straight on, 8' off axis

3. Size/placement limitations
55" diag is the right size for their cabinet

4. Uses and sources
Primarily HD Direct TV, some Netflix from Roku, very little Blu-ray

5. Room lighting
Lots of natural light with several windows directly behind the seating/TV.

Thank you in advance.

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I am looking for a good 60" LCD, and coming from plasma. I don't want 4k and black levels are huge for me. Also color accuracy. Pretty much the most plasma-like LCD out there that is reasonably affordable. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Oops, meant to mention I want to stay under $1500

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Does 4K make a huge difference in 3D quality? I'm trying to choose between a 4K TV and a regular one. If 4K, I'm looking at the XBR55850 and the Samsung 8550.

I figure either one would be a great upgrade, but I don't know if I really need the 4K. My main reason for buying a new TV is picture quality and the 3D. I will be buying this within the next few months.

1. Budget
~$2,000

2. Seating distance
10 ft

3. Size/placement limitations
None, current TV is 52"

4. Uses and sources
PS3 (blu ray, netflix, VUDU, and gaming), HTPC with Nvidia GTX 770 for 1080p gaming

5. Room lighting
Depends, though my current TV has a glossy screen and it hasn't bothered me.
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Moving from LN52A650

I'm researching myself into an HDTV coma. I could use some help.

My 5 year old Samsung LN52A650 still works relatively well. My issue is that blacks are gray and overall picture punchiness is somewhat dull. I use a couple of different calibration discs (Disney WOW and Spears and Munsil) perhaps a couple times a year and make minor adjustments. I've also tried some other calibrations on the forums. Regardless of source the picture is lackluster.

I thought I'd grab up a PN60F5300 Plasma but the screen reflectivity is too much from what I've seen. And 3 of them I've seen are very gray when the set is off. Reminds me of the old CRT sets back in the day after a couple of years. So I'm now looking at Vizio M series, Samsung 6350 or 7150. I'm looking to step up to 60" or could go to 65" if the price is right. I'm steering clear of 4K at this time. Based on viewing distance 10-12' I'd need too large of a TV and that means big $$$. I won't even go into the whole source material aspect.

Am I headed down the right path with the model selections? Budget is around $1500 and in order to retain the spousal approval factor I need to stick to it as best I can. Not a fan of LG's or Sony's from what I've seen. My room is a basement home theater with a few high placed windows and the occasional light being on but otherwise a relatively dark place.

I should add that smart features nor sound are important to me as I have an Apple TV and Amazon Fire TV and my receiver handles all sound tasks.

Thanks for any guidance or tips!
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Can someone shed some light here please? Trying to decide between these two models.

Sony KDL55W700B and the Sony KDL60W630B

From what I've read here the 630B is ideal for gaming.

I watch a lot of sports, xbox one/ps4 and blu ray. Not into 3D and if it has it I would probably not even use it which is why I've ended up with these two sets.

The 700B is also $300 cheaper. $799 at Best Buy right now. Is there a reason I should get one over the other? Price isn't a factor and neither is size, I will be content with the 55 or 60, but I am not opposed to saving $300 if the sets are equally good.

Or if there's another tv out there you guys recommend let me know! Thanks!
KDL55W700B is a really nice set.
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Is worth paying $700 for a 48" Samsung H6350? I have a Samsung UN46FH6030 right now, but I'm returning it to Amazon for a full refund.
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Hey All,

First post, and I am hoping that someone or a few people can help me out. I am in the market for a new TV, I have what I think are two models and I am pretty sure I am going with one of them. So which sounds like the one for me?

My sig is my current set up (disregard my exterior obviously) I love my plasma but a larger screen is now due!!! I have done enough thread reading to understand that a jump like I am looking for could produce "imperfections" to my eye's picture. I get that, so I am not going to nit-pick.

I am setting it up in my great room and I have natural light from the left and directly facing the screen (sliding and picture windows) I will be watching this TV mostly during the day and some later evening. My dark room viewing and night time viewing is another room. My seating is the "U" shape with couch and love seat to the right and left and two recliners directly on screen. Distance is 12' from the recliners and gets closer obviously with the couch and love seat. Off angle of the couch and love seat is rounded off at 45* for both areas.

I am looking into the 70" class LED. Do not need 3D or 4K (I will wait on that). I value good color and the best black's I can get. I do not like reflection which is a big issue with the picture window behind the view(ers)

I have been looking at these two set's both at my local Costco in stock

Vizio M702i-B3 1749.00
Sharp LC70C6600U 1379.99 (until 12/27) 1579.99 after

I have been over to the Vizio M702 owners thread all 11 pages and have jumped through most of the M series thread. I have also been to the Sharp owners thread regarding the LC70650 which is an older model and being that the 6600 is the 2015 model there really isnt much known or said.

So....what do you think, can someone think of reasons to go with one over the other, for a guy that usually catches most of what he is looking for. Are there questions that I should be asking myself that I have not?

Thanks

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Here is my situation. Just moved and on a tight budget. still have to buy tv stand and other furniture items. No tv at the moment. Best to buy now or wait until the new models come out and snag a deal on old stock?

1. Budget ~$650-$750

2. Seating distance 7-10ft

3. Size/placement limitations
55" or 60"
15x15 room. west side is wall. east side is all windows

4. Uses and sources
Sports and general tv mostly. Some movies via Netflix

5. Room lighting
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Here is my situation. Just moved and on a tight budget. still have to buy tv stand and other furniture items. No tv at the moment. Best to buy now or wait until the new models come out and snag a deal on old stock?

1. Budget ~$650-$750

2. Seating distance 7-10ft

3. Size/placement limitations
55" or 60"
15x15 room. west side is wall. east side is all windows

4. Uses and sources
Sports and general tv mostly. Some movies via Netflix

5. Room lighting
Overhead track halogen at night.

Sony KDL50W700B $699.99


Sony KDL55W700B ~ $799.00

Samsung UN50H6350AFXZA $749.99

Samsung UN55H6203 $679.99

If you don't mind a 60Hz panel rather than a 120Hz panel this might be OK
Samsung UN50H5203AFXZA$579.99

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I am sure this has been asked a million times but my quick search didn't give me the answer I was hoping for.

Essentially, which is more important, size or quality?

My viewing distance is about 7.5' so I am looking at a 55" or 60". I've considered the Vizio E series 60" or the Samsung 7150 55". From what I've read the Samsung should be a much better TV but I can't afford the 60".

Am I better off going big or going quality? I am replacing a Samsung LN46B750 which still works great so I'm leaning towards the quality longevity.

I have very sharp eyes. I can see pixels easily if I'm too close. Im worried the 60" is too big for that viewing distance. Thoughts?
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