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post #721 of 5859 Old 10-02-2010, 10:49 AM
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1. Budget: $1300-2100, cheaper the better

2. Seating Distance: 6ft-7ft

3. Size/Placement limitations: 50"+, no limits

4. Uses and Sources: Blu-Rays, DVDs, and PS3 games. 1080p, will use it as a pc screen most of the time though!

5. Room Lighting: smart lighting, no bright light; window is blacked out.

The samsung 58" 8000 series is priced at $2099, don't need 3d really but why not for that price+ screen size. I live in the middle east, and will have a friend ship it over from the US, so I can't see them in person. We don't have the newer models yet, still old models for almost MSRP and stuff over here :"/

All I care about is PQ, 3d comes second if the samsung is the best option for me?
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1. Budget
$1000-$1350
2. Seating distance
7-10 ft
3. Size/placement limitations
~46-52 in
4. Uses and sources
A little bit of everything but in order of importance:
1. Movies(should be a complete WOW on blu-rays obviously)
2. Games(will have PS3 and Wii)
3. Sports
4. Computer as source
5. Room lighting
Dim incandescent light, windows w/ blinds

should i wait for columbus day sales?

thanks
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If I could get some advice about a TV.
It's an office television connected to a DirecTV HD-DVR receiver.
Seating is less than 2 ft. it's along the lines of being a next to my computer monitors.
Budget is $800-$1000
Planning on using it for watching NFL Sunday Ticket although will watch all HDTV and may play PS3/XBOX360/WII on it as well but this is secondary to the NFL Sunday Ticket.
Hopefully purchase from Crutchfield.com or Best Buy.
Thanks!
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Whats the cheapest brand that uses good LCD panels that will last and not break in a year or two?.

On a website from a wholesale seller they said the Vizio's were now using LG panels so I was wondering if you guys know of any cheap brands like Vizio RCA Emerson etc.. that will last more than a few years.

I want a 37 to 42 inch LCD to use aa a PC display so it will be on all day I been using a Olevia TV now for a few years still working flawlessly.
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1. Budget ~2000
2. Seating distance 12-14 Feet
3. Size/placement limitations - Will be wall mounted but 60" is probably the limit
4. Uses and sources - Everyday TV viewing for adults and small children, will be watched quite a bit during the day. Sources would be PS3 and Comcast HD
5. Room lighting - Overhead can lights on sloped ceiling. There are 3 windows that face the TV. The sun sets into these windows. There are also two windows on a 90 degree angle to the TV, so lots of natural light in the room.

I've been trying to decide between Samsung UN60C6300 and the PN58C7000. Glare and off angle viewing are a concern due to watching at daylight and our kitchen table is at a fairly extreme angle to the TV.

Open to any and all brands and price could go up a bit but $2500 would be the absolute ceiling. 3D would be cool (The Masters!) but not necessary. Thin is a must.

Thanks gents!
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I've kind of come to a decision on a tv, but not quite 100%, and would like some input.

What I'm looking at now is either a LG 42LD520 or Samsung LN40C630(now that I really look, maybe the lg 550 would be a more fair comparison and although I don't need the net functionality, the extra component input as well as I imagine slightly better quality all around might push me...ugh, decisions)

I am not very picky when it comes to picture quality. You show me any decent->amazing quality tv, and I'll likely view them all pretty similarly. Both have contrast ratios that are better than my old samsung LN40A550, probably even after the usually flawed calculations to get them. I need absolutely 0 internet or extra device functionality as it will be used as a PC monitor anyway. The lg set says it has a 2.4ms response time and 4ms for the samsung, but I know even that is usually not so cut and dry as it seems(with various methods of gathering that response time). My old set I could detect slight motion blur when watching a movie, usually in darker scenes, but usually no problems while gaming, and I'd love for this new tv to be better in that regard.

They both have enough inputs, are the right size, speakers don't matter a problem for me as I have an ok 5.1 setup, and plasma doesn't seem to fit my needs. The lg is a bit less expensive and is ever so slightly bigger, but this is a large purchase and I wouldn't mind a bit of coaching before I lay down my wallet.
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1. Budget
$5000
2. Seating distance
10-15 ft
3. Size/placement limitations
~70 inch
4. Uses and sources
A little bit of everything but in order of importance:
1. Movies(should be a complete WOW on blu-rays obviously)
2. Games(will have PS3 and xbox360)
3. Sports
4. Computer as source
5. Room lighting
halo lights small basement window with air condition

ive worked it down to three sets i think Samsung pn63c8000 un65c8000 and the Panasonic 65pvt25 feel free recommend other models
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Hi looking for a new bedroom TV in 32" size. Will be used primarily for night time TV watching before bed time. PQ is a priority. 1080p would be nice for computer use and Blu-ray.

Thinking about the Samsung LN32C550 (on sale at amazon)? How does that stack up against comparable Sony and LG offerings?

1. < $500
2. 4-6 feet
3. Considering 32" size primarily
4. Sources: Mostly HD cable / some Blu-ray / occasionally playing media from laptop via HDMI
5. Typically dark nightime viewing with no lights. But might occasionally use in mornings as well but even then not much direct light.
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Lots of questions but where are the answers????
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Lots of questions but where are the answers????

Ya, i don't think this thread turned out as expected. But it's a damned if you do, and damned if you don't situation.

Remember the days when identical Buyer request threads utterly clogged these forums? They're still around, but not as much and better camouflaged.

You know what's funny, i even see Buyer request posts in the comments section of review websites, i mean c'mon where's the sense in that?
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Lots of questions but where are the answers????

Notice how many of the people asking only have 1-2 posts? Most of these folks consider throwing a question up and waiting for a magic answer to be their research. What they don't realise is that there's no perfect answer for everyone.

They're not willing/able to put in the time to participate in the model-specific threads and draw their own conclusions. And I'll bet that once they've made their purchase, you won't see them here again.
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Notice how many of the people asking only have 1-2 posts? Most of these folks consider throwing a question up and waiting for a magic answer to be their research. What they don't realise is that there's no perfect answer for everyone.

They're not willing/able to put in the time to participate in the model-specific threads and draw their own conclusions. And I'll bet that once they've made their purchase, you won't see them here again.

So! That's their prerogative, and that is, in part, why this site exists. So what if you read up on things and someone else doesn't? Who cares? This site offers so much for folks, regardless of how often they stop by.
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Skypilot is right you people are taking these forums way to serious this isn't a religion you don't have to commit to a forum for life. You come ask what info you need and that's it.
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So! That's their prerogative

It is indeed. It's also the prerogative of others to not bother responding when the people they're helping don't intend to contribute back. You reap what you sow.
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Lots of questions but where are the answers????

This indeed proove this post is thread is worthless. No one read it to post recommandation to people.

Then if someone ask a question in his own thread, he gets pointed to this one, yet no answeres are ever giving. A waste of a thread.
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Gotta agree. Thread needs deletion. Let's get these questions back in the forum where they can be answered.
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  1. Budget
    500-700eur
  2. Seating distance

    close
  3. Size/placement limitations

    32-40"
  4. Uses and sources

    Main:
    PC via HDMI@1080p:
    Bluray and recorded HDTV
    gaming
    some use as a regular monitor
    PS3 gaming only
    Maybe some Wii gaming

    WON'T BE using it for:
    LIVE TV
    ANALOG TV
    DTV/CABLE/SAT
    DVD
  5. Room lighting
    Darkish to dark enviroment.

I'm stumped with the choice out there so some guidance would help.

Have a non calibrated Dell 2200WAf, which has natural looking colors but iffy blacks, so don't want a set with worse colors.

TV will be used with a PC as the source almost exclusively (some PS3 gaming and Wii) so I need low input lag.
Live tv related features are of no use to me. Ditto for de-interlacing/ internet connectivity etc.
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I probably won't get a response but will post anyways.

I'm looking for a 32 inch with no budget but please keep in mind that I'm a college student.

My room isn't big at all and I don't care for watching TV much anyways. No specific dimensions for my room but I would guess it's 10 to 12 feet wide. I'll be primarily watching sports and the occasional sitcom. I'll also have my PS3 hooked up and do watch blu-rays from time to time. I'm also planning to build a HTPC to hook up to the TV as well.
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I probably won't get a response but will post anyways.

I'm looking for a 32 inch with no budget but please keep in mind that I'm a college student.

My room isn't big at all and I don't care for watching TV much anyways. No specific dimensions for my room but I would guess it's 10 to 12 feet wide. I'll be primarily watching sports and the occasional sitcom. I'll also have my PS3 hooked up and do watch blu-rays from time to time. I'm also planning to build a HTPC to hook up to the TV as well.

If you just want cheap, Best Buy has their Dynex brand on sale for $299 (32" 720p). Just go to their website and search for 32" Dynex. All of the stores in my area have them in stock. They have like 3 HDMI inputs so you should be set for a PS3 & HTPC (remember you can get a DVI to HDMI adapter for your HTPC, you don't need an HDMI card unless you want to push audio through the cable as well). The plus side with going with the lower-resolution 720p HD is that SD content looks better, so if you don't have an HD hookup into your college room, stuff won't look too terrible.
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If you just want cheap, Best Buy has their Dynex brand on sale for $299 (32" 720p). Just go to their website and search for 32" Dynex. All of the stores in my area have them in stock. They have like 3 HDMI inputs so you should be set for a PS3 & HTPC (remember you can get a DVI to HDMI adapter for your HTPC, you don't need an HDMI card unless you want to push audio through the cable as well). The plus side with going with the lower-resolution 720p HD is that SD content looks better, so if you don't have an HD hookup into your college room, stuff won't look too terrible.

Thanks for the suggestion but I'm looking to get something that does 1080p. I don't live on campus so I'll be hooked up to cable or FiOS.
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1. Budget ~2000
2. Seating distance 12-14 Feet
3. Size/placement limitations - Will be wall mounted but 60" is probably the limit
4. Uses and sources - Everyday TV viewing for adults and small children, will be watched quite a bit during the day. Sources would be PS3 and Comcast HD
5. Room lighting - Overhead can lights on sloped ceiling. There are 3 windows that face the TV. The sun sets into these windows. There are also two windows on a 90 degree angle to the TV, so lots of natural light in the room.

I've been trying to decide between Samsung UN60C6300 and the PN58C7000. Glare and off angle viewing are a concern due to watching at daylight and our kitchen table is at a fairly extreme angle to the TV.

Open to any and all brands and price could go up a bit but $2500 would be the absolute ceiling. 3D would be cool (The Masters!) but not necessary. Thin is a must.

Thanks gents!

For long hours of watching (especially with PS3) it is more safe to choose LCD over Plasma, but it all depends on viewing habits. Although permanent burn-in is almost non-existent, temporal burn-in could appear from time to time under certain conditions.

On the other hand, Plasma TV will have better angles and better deep blacks. If you are more into movie watching, plasma will give you more visual quality. Reviewers say that PN58C7000 performs really well both in 2D and 3D (latter is imho useless nowadays though. And you have to buy 3D glasses for extra $). Then again, this model doesn't have 1080p/24 so standart 2:3 will be used. But on this model its not bad.

UN60C6300 also doesn't have any major flaws. And while black performance and clouding might be little bit worse than Plasma, it should perform better in your lightly room as glaring will be a problem, especially playing games. Unless you have dense curtains that stop light well.


Basically both TVs are good and perform very well in HD format. But SD should be better with Plasma.

Also notice that PN58C7000 has Internet Apps and also 2 component inputs vs No Apps and 1 component on LCD. There is also Headphone out on Plasma if you ever need it.

I might also suggest looking for similar Plasma models but without 3D (you pay for it extra) and maybe get higher series on the same budget.
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I probably won't get a response but will post anyways.

I'm looking for a 32 inch with no budget but please keep in mind that I'm a college student.

My room isn't big at all and I don't care for watching TV much anyways. No specific dimensions for my room but I would guess it's 10 to 12 feet wide. I'll be primarily watching sports and the occasional sitcom. I'll also have my PS3 hooked up and do watch blu-rays from time to time. I'm also planning to build a HTPC to hook up to the TV as well.

These models are all 32" and 1080p LCDs:

Samsung LN32C550
Samsung LN32C530


Toshiba 32E200U
Toshiba 32RV525R

Sony KDL-32EX500 - 120Hz
Sony KDL-32EX400

LG 32LD550 - 120Hz
LG 32LD450

Panasonic TC-L32U22

JVC LT-32P510
JVC LT-32J300
JVC LT-32P300

Vizio VA320M
Vizio VOJ320F1A
Vizio VO32LFHDTV10A
Vizio SV320XVT - 120Hz
Vizio VL320M
Vizio E322VL

Higher refresh rate (120Hz) should be better for sports.

Check prices and compare features. If you like listening music over USB then certain models support it but others don't, etc.
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These models are all 32" and 1080p LCDs:

Samsung LN32C550
Samsung LN32C530


Toshiba 32E200U
Toshiba 32RV525R

Sony KDL-32EX500 - 120Hz
Sony KDL-32EX400

LG 32LD550 - 120Hz
LG 32LD450

Panasonic TC-L32U22

JVC LT-32P510
JVC LT-32J300
JVC LT-32P300

Vizio VA320M
Vizio VOJ320F1A
Vizio VO32LFHDTV10A
Vizio SV320XVT - 120Hz
Vizio VL320M
Vizio E322VL

Higher refresh rate (120Hz) should be better for sports.

Check prices and compare features. If you like listening music over USB then certain models support it but others don't, etc.

Probably in a higher range than may be expected I was looking at the 32EX700 and the UN326500. Was probably leaning towards the EX700. Do any of the above models offer similar or superior performance at a lower/similar price point?
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Probably in a higher range than may be expected I was looking at the 32EX700 and the UN326500. Was probably leaning towards the EX700. Do any of the above models offer similar or superior performance at a lower/similar price point?

Both EX700 and UN326500 should perform on average better than above LCD-CCFL models because these are higher class TVs.Although not by much.

There are no direct performance reviews on the net for all above models so the only thing you can do is check them in the shop (if possible) and compare.

Comparing EX700 vs UN32C6500, Samsung has better video file format support (over USB) and also better Inernet Apps. Performance is basically the same for both of them.
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Whats the cheapest brand that uses good LCD panels that will last and not break in a year or two?.

On a website from a wholesale seller they said the Vizio's were now using LG panels so I was wondering if you guys know of any cheap brands like Vizio RCA Emerson etc.. that will last more than a few years.

I want a 37 to 42 inch LCD to use aa a PC display so it will be on all day I been using a Olevia TV now for a few years still working flawlessly.

Go with the Vizio.

You may also check some models from Sharp or JVC as they are quite reliable and may offer some decent deals.
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For the most common usage at the current state of technology in the consumer field, led is an lcd panel whose backlighting is provided by an array of leds as opposed to fluorescent lamps.
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I really like the picture on LED LCD tv's, I'm keeping my eye out for a good sale on one with decent reviews and someday, hopefully I'll buy one. right now I'm running 2 Panasonic plasmas. My primary theater room is running a 1080p 54" one with no 24p.

My question is about the movie "Avatar" and should apply to any heavily cgi movie. I went to Fry's and saw the latest technology LED 240hz 55" (or so I think it was a Samsung) $3000ish tv playing Avatar and I was shocked at how bad it looked (to me). It looked like a giant cut scene from a video game. On my plasma you can certainly tell it's cg, some parts worse than others. But I compared the "big tree attack" scene I saw in the store to my plasma and mine is honestly much better looking imo.

So, my question is, was the store's LCD in the wrong mode? Or is that just the way it is with heavy CG on LCD?

I have a bad feeling this has been asked, if so I'm sorry and I am not trying to spark a debate. If CG on LCD looks just as good or better to someone else, I can respect that.
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Both EX700 and UN326500 should perform on average better than above LCD-CCFL models because these are higher class TVs.Although not by much.

There are no direct performance reviews on the net for all above models so the only thing you can do is check them in the shop (if possible) and compare.

Comparing EX700 vs UN32C6500, Samsung has better video file format support (over USB) and also better Inernet Apps. Performance is basically the same for both of them.

I know it's not out yet but I was interested in the Sony Google TV (forget the model) any idea how that would compare to the EX700? Or if you have any specific model in mind for my use I'd be open to it (any brand but Vizio or Dynex etc.)
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I really like the picture on LED LCD tv's, I'm keeping my eye out for a good sale on one with decent reviews and someday, hopefully I'll buy one. right now I'm running 2 Panasonic plasmas. My primary theater room is running a 1080p 54" one with no 24p.

My question is about the movie "Avatar" and should apply to any heavily cgi movie. I went to Fry's and saw the latest technology LED 240hz 55" (or so I think it was a Samsung) $3000ish tv playing Avatar and I was shocked at how bad it looked (to me). It looked like a giant cut scene from a video game. On my plasma you can certainly tell it's cg, some parts worse than others. But I compared the "big tree attack" scene I saw in the store to my plasma and mine is honestly much better looking imo.

So, my question is, was the store's LCD in the wrong mode? Or is that just the way it is with heavy CG on LCD?

I have a bad feeling this has been asked, if so I'm sorry and I am not trying to spark a debate. If CG on LCD looks just as good or better to someone else, I can respect that.

Did you make sure the movie was playing directly from a Blu-ray player in the store?

If it was coming from some other source, no real way to be sure what it should look like.
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I know it's not out yet but I was interested in the Sony Google TV (forget the model) any idea how that would compare to the EX700? Or if you have any specific model in mind for my use I'd be open to it (any brand but Vizio or Dynex etc.)

It is way too early to have any real world comparisons because TVs with equiped GoogleTV feature (Sony NSX-GT1 series) were just announced. Only four Sony TVs will have this feature for now and more other models should appear in 2010. There is no info about performance of these TVs so its hard to tell.

I see you are thinking about 32EX700? Its a good TV with good performance for this level of TVs. It has the same video processing software as the most expensive Sony models, good constrast and also 120Hz technology in the mix. And Sony is one of the best TV brands overall. You should be happy with this model.
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