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post #8761 of 8790 Old 02-05-2016, 08:51 AM
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What's the better option:

55JU7100

Or 55JS7000

For:

Seating distance:


8-10 feet

Uses:
Watching movies
Watching sports
Netflix/Streaming

Room conditions:
Very bright during the day with floor-to-ceiling windows and skylights.
The TV will be mounted in front of a sectional couch; most of the sectional faces center or near-center to the TV, but part of the sectional seating is on the side of the TV

Thanks!
JU7100 for me as per rtings.

Seems JS7000 have judder issues and overall less features.

I would probably snag a 55JS7000 for myself for 675 though! (+warranty).

EDIT:

Looking for m60-C3 alternative (read to pikcup for $ 699).

Must do at least do Chroma 4:4:4 at 1080p.

No smaller than 48 inches.

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Hello,


In the market for an LCD for our bedroom to replace our Samsung HLS5087WX/XAA.


1. Budget: Preferably under $450. Definitely no more than $600.
2. Seating distance: 8'-10'
3. Size/placement limitations: I think 50" is the sweet spot for us.
4. Uses and sources: DirecTV viewing mainly, Netflix here and there. Probably less than 15 hours a week of viewing.
5. Room lighting: 3 nice sized windows with late afternoon sun, but TV will mainly be used during dusk and dawn.


Considering:


  • TCL 50FS3800
  • Vizio M50-C1 (Stretch Consideration)
  • Vizio E50-C1
  • Hisense 50H7GB2

I'm not restricted to opinions on these 4. Please feel free to add others.



Thanks in advance.

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Looking for a Budget - Mid grade 65" 4k under $1500.00

Wonder if anyone has knowledge of which of these three choices is the best for a 65-inch midrange LED 4k TV.

Sony XBR65X810C
Samsung UN65JU6500FXZO
Vizio M65-C1

All seem to be under $1500 right now which is my limit. If you have another choice to add, or one that is better, please
give me your input. I just started the search process about a week ago, so I'm still in the 'noob' phase.

Seating distance 10-12 feet
mounting will be above the fireplace
Room is on the dark side
FIOS set top Receiver
Blu Ray
PS4
Like to watch sports will mostly be watching through the FIOS set top box the majority of the time.
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Looking for a Budget - Mid grade 65" 4k under $1500.00

Wonder if anyone has knowledge of which of these three choices is the best for a 65-inch midrange LED 4k TV.

Sony XBR65X810C
Samsung UN65JU6500FXZO
Vizio M65-C1

All seem to be under $1500 right now which is my limit. If you have another choice to add, or one that is better, please
give me your input. I just started the search process about a week ago, so I'm still in the 'noob' phase.

Seating distance 10-12 feet
mounting will be above the fireplace
Room is on the dark side
FIOS set top Receiver
Blu Ray
PS4
Like to watch sports will mostly be watching through the FIOS set top box the majority of the time.
Take it for what it's worth, but I just asked Rtings.com for a suggestion with basically this same setup. Here was there reply (vizio M)

"Get the Vizio M. The picture is very good, it will look good in a dark room, and its viewing angle should be just wide enough for your space. Neither of the other two get bright enough to be a good recommendation for that much light"
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Hoping for some help. I had pretty much made up my mind to buy a Samsung UN50JU7100. Before buying, I noticed that the Samsung UN48JU7500 had dropped in price and again I thought that I had found the set I wanted. I now see that the Samsung UN48JS8500 is the exact same price as the 7500 on Amazon so I'm leaning towards grabbing it instead. Out of the three which one should I buy with the following in mind-

Seating distance:

6 to 8 feet

Uses:
Gaming
Watching sports
Netflix

Room conditions:
Moderate to low light during the day and pretty dark at night (one window with a solid, dark blind). TV will sit on top of an entertainment center.

My number 1 priority is a great set for gaming which makes me lean towards the 7500 but from what I can tell the 8500 has a better picture and isn't that far off gaming wise. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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Hoping for some help. I had pretty much made up my mind to buy a Samsung UN50JU7100. Before buying, I noticed that the Samsung UN48JU7500 had dropped in price and again I thought that I had found the set I wanted. I now see that the Samsung UN48JS8500 is the exact same price as the 7500 on Amazon so I'm leaning towards grabbing it instead. Out of the three which one should I buy with the following in mind-

Seating distance:

6 to 8 feet

Uses:
Gaming
Watching sports
Netflix

Room conditions:
Moderate to low light during the day and pretty dark at night (one window with a solid, dark blind). TV will sit on top of an entertainment center.

My number 1 priority is a great set for gaming which makes me lean towards the 7500 but from what I can tell the 8500 has a better picture and isn't that far off gaming wise. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Get the Samsung UN48JS8500 it has the better nano crystal panel and supports HDR.
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In a perfect world, direct backlighting would be better. But in real world implementation, edge-lit panels often look better because some direct-lit panels don't have a sufficient number of LEDs and are therefore more prone to the Dirty Screen Effect (DSE). A direct-lit panel can be more prone to DSE due to the localized dispersion of each LED behind the screen.
So I may be looking at having to get a new TV (my 56G886 JVC I think is biting the dust) and was considering these two - 55" XBR55X850C and the 65" XBR65X850C as well as the comparable Samsungs in this size in the JS8500 series but am curious as to the above coment on the Sonys.....are you saying quality wise the 55 850C is better than the 65 850c due to the lit difference?
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So I may be looking at having to get a new TV (my 56G886 JVC I think is biting the dust) and was considering these two - 55" XBR55X850C and the 65" XBR65X850C as well as the comparable Samsungs in this size in the JS8500 series but am curious as to the above coment on the Sonys.....are you saying quality wise the 55 850C is better than the 65 850c due to the lit difference?
No I wasn't - just pointing out that you can't make a decision on one parameter, such as edge lit vs. direct lit. Most all the new 2016 certified HDR10 sets are edge lit. The Samsung JS8500 you're considering is also edge lit. Yet, direct lighting should be better especially for local dimming but it doesn't always work out that way.
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No I wasn't - just pointing out that you can't make a decision on one parameter, such as edge lit vs. direct lit. Most all the new 2016 certified HDR10 sets are edge lit. The Samsung JS8500 you're considering is also edge lit. Yet, direct lighting should be better especially for local dimming but it doesn't always work out that way.
Thanks Dave, your insight here is greatly appreciated! Then outside of size I assume I wouldn't be missing anything going with the 55?

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I'm moving soon as I just purchased a new house and I'm interested in replacing my older living room TV. So what TV would you recommend me purchasing? I'm interested in getting a 70 inch UHD/4K TV and I have a budget of up to $4,000 to spend. I'm looking for a TV that will still have amazing picture quality even for such a large size TV and something that won't give me any pixelation and or fuzziness issues that I'm seeing a lot with 30Hz and 60Hz HD TV's. Also, if you can recommend me some surround sound speakers or a sound bar to go along with the TV within the $4,000 budget, but if not its okay. Thanks for all the recommendations in advance!
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Thanks Dave, your insight here is greatly appreciated! Then outside of size I assume I wouldn't be missing anything going with the 55?

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The review at Rtings.com (linked below) is of the 55" Edge-lit model. They did not review the 65" Direct-lit model and therefore do not provide any direct comparison. You could read through the thread here on the 850C to get owner's perspectives. I personally prefer direct lit designs, especially for HDR, but you have to look at the TV yourself to judge how it looks to you.

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x850c?uxtv=48fd
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The review at Rtings.com (linked below) is of the 55" Edge-lit model. They did not review the 65" Direct-lit model and therefore do not provide any direct comparison. You could read through the thread here on the 850C to get owner's perspectives. I personally prefer direct lit designs, especially for HDR, but you have to look at the TV yourself to judge how it looks to you.

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x850c?uxtv=48fd
Great...... good info and thanks for the link!

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Need help with a 65 inch 4K

Hi all I am looking to pick up a 65inch 4k tv for a family room. Viewing area is 12 to 15 feet and the room is moderately bright but not bad at all. We are looking for mostly sports, tv shows, Netflix/Amazon Prime. I am trying to stay around 1400 or less. Some that I am looking at are the following:

Hisense 65H7B2 - $999
Vizio M65-C1 - $1,349
Sharp Aquos LC-65UB30U $1,399
LG 65UF6800 $1,499

Hisense is a bit cheaper but cant tell if its worth saving 300 - 500, from what I can tell the Vizio looks to have some solid reviews, not sure about the LG or Sharp. Looks like LGs lower end sets might not be up to snuff compared to other brands.

I guess I could always go 60 inch but there is not much difference in price right now with the Vizio's at least. Any input is appreciated

Thanks!
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65" Sony X850 vs 60" Samsung JS8000

Hello,
I'm trying to decided which 4k TV to buy. I don't really care about the 3D option. I'm more concerned with the judder, contrast and color depth.
From my understanding both of these are HDR ready. But does the Samsung JS8000 fall into the panel lottery? From what I have gathered the JS8000 is just the JS8500 without the 3D and 60".
Any input would be appreciated, if you have another TV in mind I'm open to all ears as well. Thanks in advance.
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Hi all I am looking to pick up a 65inch 4k tv for a family room. Viewing area is 12 to 15 feet and the room is moderately bright but not bad at all. We are looking for mostly sports, tv shows, Netflix/Amazon Prime. I am trying to stay around 1400 or less. Some that I am looking at are the following:

Hisense 65H7B2 - $999
Vizio M65-C1 - $1,349
Sharp Aquos LC-65UB30U $1,399
LG 65UF6800 $1,499

Hisense is a bit cheaper but cant tell if its worth saving 300 - 500, from what I can tell the Vizio looks to have some solid reviews, not sure about the LG or Sharp. Looks like LGs lower end sets might not be up to snuff compared to other brands.

I guess I could always go 60 inch but there is not much difference in price right now with the Vizio's at least. Any input is appreciated

Thanks!
The M65 is really a great tv for the price. It is highly rated by many publications and while it doesn't have HDR (nothing in that price range will) that technology is in it's infancy and even if you buy a lower end HDR compatible TV it will likely be dwarfed in a couple of years. I would recommend snagging a movers coupon as well which you can use on the M series at Best Buy and save 10%.
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Hi all I am looking to pick up a 65inch 4k tv for a family room. Viewing area is 12 to 15 feet and the room is moderately bright but not bad at all. We are looking for mostly sports, tv shows, Netflix/Amazon Prime. I am trying to stay around 1400 or less. Some that I am looking at are the following:

Hisense 65H7B2 - $999
Vizio M65-C1 - $1,349
Sharp Aquos LC-65UB30U $1,399
LG 65UF6800 $1,499

Hisense is a bit cheaper but cant tell if its worth saving 300 - 500, from what I can tell the Vizio looks to have some solid reviews, not sure about the LG or Sharp. Looks like LGs lower end sets might not be up to snuff compared to other brands.

I guess I could always go 60 inch but there is not much difference in price right now with the Vizio's at least. Any input is appreciated

Thanks!
I would go with the Vizio as the best TV in that price range. At your 12-15' viewing distance, you will not see any difference in resolution from a 4k to a 1080p set. You might want to consider the Vizio E65($950) or E70 ($1250) sets. You will appreciate the extra 5" of screen on the 70" TV and still be under budget.
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I currently have a Sony KDS R70 XBR2. Got it in Dec. 2006. Replaced the light engine 2x, it still has a GREAT picture. However, I went to my daughter's home and she just got a Vizio M70-C3. I was blown away by the colors and brightness. Absolutely great picture. Now, my 2 questions are:
1. If I do upgrade it would be the M80 ( not going from 70 to 70). The tv would go against the wall, but there is a skylight that would be about 3 ft in front of it. Would this tv be ok in a bright room for daylight viewing?

2. All the talk about HDR, should I wait?

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Trying to make a quick last minute decision. Should I get the Samsung 65" inch 8500 model over the Samsung 65" 7500 model?

How likely will something be wrong with the 65" 8500 model? Which one is the overall better tv?

Curve or no curve doesnt matter to me. I know the 8500 is HDR compatible which is why it is being considered in the first place. I have heard very solid things about the 7500 model tho and some shakey to great things about the 8500. With spending this much money, I am nervous. First time poster, go easy.
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Budget - Looking to stay under $1500
Seating distance - 8-10 feet
Size/placement limitations - No size limit, but can't wall mount, has to go on an entertainment center
Uses and sources - Games during the day and movies at night
Room lighting - Large windows. So bright during the day, dark at night.


Looking at either a Samsung JU7500 or a LG EF9500/EG9600 if they were in the budget. So any reasonable replacements budget wise?
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We have just moved into a new house and my 50 inch tv is too small for the living room now. I currently have a Panasonic GT25 plasma tv.

I would like to move to a TV that is at least 65 inches. I have three choices that I have narrowed it down too. Wanting to spend under 3500.

Sony 65x930c
Samsung 65js8500

or go with size and get the
Sony 75x850c?

Is the 75x850c a lot worse picture quality than the other two? Is there another tv I should consider. Viewing angle is not as big of a deal in our new living room as we sit about 15-20 feet away pretty much straight on.
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We have just moved into a new house and my 50 inch tv is too small for the living room now. I currently have a Panasonic GT25 plasma tv.

I would like to move to a TV that is at least 65 inches. I have three choices that I have narrowed it down too. Wanting to spend under 3500.

Sony 65x930c
Samsung 65js8500

or go with size and get the
Sony 75x850c?

Is the 75x850c a lot worse picture quality than the other two? Is there another tv I should consider. Viewing angle is not as big of a deal in our new living room as we sit about 15-20 feet away pretty much straight on.

I just had a similar situation. I am 14' away and have a 55" that is a little too small. I decided I needed to go to 75" if I was going to increase. I considered the Sony 75x850c, but in the end I just didn't care about the 4k at that distance and went with the 1080p set KDL75W850C. It hasn't arrived yet so I can't comment.
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I just had a similar situation. I am 14' away and have a 55" that is a little too small. I decided I needed to go to 75" if I was going to increase. I considered the Sony 75x850c, but in the end I just didn't care about the 4k at that distance and went with the 1080p set KDL75W850C. It hasn't arrived yet so I can't comment.
Thanks for the reply,

Yeah I have thought about going with something to just get me by a few more years until OLED or HDR is more hammered out, but I am pretty particular about best image possible.
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Thanks for the reply,

Yeah I have thought about going with something to just get me by a few more years until OLED or HDR is more hammered out, but I am pretty particular about best image possible.
That is EXACTLY my thinking. I don't care enough to be messing around with the early days of 4k, let it settle. Save my money now and not feel so bad when I buy an OLED 4k screen in a couple of years.
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I may have asked this in the wrong forum: Reasonable 50"-ish Rec Room TV?

I'm basically looking for rec room TV, for video gaming. I can re-post here, if this is the right place.
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1. Budget: $2000 or less
2. Seating distance: head-to-screen = ~ 12 ft
3. Size/placement limitations: 70" max
4. Uses and sources: Movies/streaming only. Don't watch sports. Don't watch broadcast TV.
5. Room lighting: Medium to moderately dark (small western window and large northern window only)



Here is the catch. I'm replacing an old LCD. 52" Sharp Aquos from back in 2007 (I've only owned 2 TVs since 2000). So even a ****ty current LCD will way outshine what I currently have.
While I'd love a big OLED, I don't think I can afford one, so rather thinking of getting the immersive aspect of a big TV.
IPS isn't necessary since it's 2 people watching head on. No side viewing.
I don't like 3D so that isn't a concern.

Preliminary research says to get the Vizio M65 or M70, but I really don't know how fast technology is moving to know if I should hold out for majority of the the 2016 releases or move now (there will always be better so one can only wait so long... :P).
I'm fine waiting a few months if it really matters.

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1. Budget: $2000 or less
2. Seating distance: head-to-screen = ~ 12 ft
3. Size/placement limitations: 70" max
4. Uses and sources: Movies/streaming only. Don't watch sports. Don't watch broadcast TV.
5. Room lighting: Medium to moderately dark (small western window and large northern window only)
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Preliminary research says to get the Vizio M65 or M70, but I really don't know how fast technology is moving to know if I should hold out for majority of the the 2016 releases or move now (there will always be better so one can only wait so long... :P).
I'm fine waiting a few months if it really matters.

Thanks!
From your seating distance, 4k really does not matter. I have a Vizio E70-C3 that I view at 12' and it looks great and is about the right size from that distance. You will save about $600 over the M70 and lose just about nothing. You have fewer active zones and less resolution but you really will no SEE any difference. If you only want to go 65", consider the new D-series as it goes for under $1000. I am quite happy with my Vizio and would buy it again. The only real improvement that may be coming on the 2016 models is HDR. HDR will make more of an improvement than 4k but right now the standards are up in the air and the sets will be more pricey. I can be happy with my choice until I can afford (or justify) an OLED TV.
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Need help deciding on replacement for 50 inch plasma

1. Budget: $2000 or less
2. Seating distance: head-to-screen = ~ 8.5 ft
3. Size/placement limitations: 55 inch, but may be able to fit a 65 inch. Seating is directly in front of TV.
4. Uses and sources: Streaming - Hulu, Netflix, Amazon. Cable (Time Warner) - mainly sports (soccer and basketball) but do DVR some HD shows. Light gaming on PS4.
5. Room lighting: Medium to moderately dark (Only window is sliding glass door to the rear and perpendicular to the seating area)

I'm looking to replace my 50 inch plasma and after not really having kept up with TV technology in the last few years I am having some trouble making a decision. I guess the first question is 4K vs 1080p. I really don't have a need for or really care about 4K at this time, but it seems like most of the better TVs out now are 4K . As I would like this to last as my main TV for at least 4-5 years I think it probably makes sense to go ahead with a 4K TV, but I could be persuaded otherwise. My main concern with 4K is the upscaling of non-4K content. I don't really watch any SD sources, but know that streaming can drop into that range.

I had narrowed down my list to the following - Samsung UN55JS8500, Samsung UN55JU7500, Sony XBR55X810C, and Sony XBR55X850C. But I'm not tied to these at all and welcome any advice or suggestions on a good choice for my scenario.

Thanks!

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From your seating distance, 4k really does not matter. I have a Vizio E70-C3 that I view at 12' and it looks great and is about the right size from that distance. You will save about $600 over the M70 and lose just about nothing. You have fewer active zones and less resolution but you really will no SEE any difference. If you only want to go 65", consider the new D-series as it goes for under $1000. I am quite happy with my Vizio and would buy it again. The only real improvement that may be coming on the 2016 models is HDR. HDR will make more of an improvement than 4k but right now the standards are up in the air and the sets will be more pricey. I can be happy with my choice until I can afford (or justify) an OLED TV.

Appreciate the feedback. I guess I need to research a bit on what available larger quality 1080P TVs are still available and see how they stack against the vizio. I don't mind saving money...and by saving, I mean that I'll just spend it on something else for the HT :P I hunted a bit for 1080p 65 OLEDs but it looked like it wasn't getting me anywhere. Just 55".
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Appreciate the feedback. I guess I need to research a bit on what available larger quality 1080P TVs are still available and see how they stack against the vizio. I don't mind saving money...and by saving, I mean that I'll just spend it on something else for the HT :P I hunted a bit for 1080p 65 OLEDs but it looked like it wasn't getting me anywhere. Just 55".
High end large screen 1080p sets are soon to be a thing of the past, so whether you want/need 4k, that is probably going to be your only option pretty soon.
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1. Budget: $2000 or less
2. Seating distance: head-to-screen = ~ 8.5 ft
3. Size/placement limitations: 55 inch, but may be able to fit a 65 inch. Seating is directly in front of TV.
4. Uses and sources: Streaming - Hulu, Netflix, Amazon. Cable (Time Warner) - mainly sports (soccer and basketball) but do DVR some HD shows. Light gaming on PS4.
5. Room lighting: Medium to moderately dark (Only window is sliding glass door to the rear and perpendicular to the seating area)

I'm looking to replace my 50 inch plasma and after not really having kept up with TV technology in the last few years I am having some trouble making a decision. I guess the first question is 4K vs 1080p. I really don't have a need for or really care about 4K at this time, but it seems like most of the better TVs out now are 4K . As I would like this to last as my main TV for at least 4-5 years I think it probably makes sense to go ahead with a 4K TV, but I could be persuaded otherwise. My main concern with 4K is the upscaling of non-4K content. I don't really watch any SD sources, but know that streaming can drop into that range.

I had narrowed down my list to the following - Samsung UN55JS8500, Samsung UN55JU7500, Sony XBR55X810C, and Sony XBR55X850C. But I'm not tied to these at all and welcome any advice or suggestions on a good choice for my scenario.

Thanks!
Since you are coming from plasma, you might be happier with the images you get from an OLED display. The 1080p 55" LG OLED models would come in at your budget. Compare them to the LCDs before you buy. There is a dramatic difference in blacks and viewing angle.
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