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Help selecting 55" 4K TV - Sony X8500D/LG UH650T/Panny CX700S
i have rounded up three 4K TVs that fits into my budget, but the specifications so far seems very confusing and probably lots of marketing gimmicks peppered within

i intend to hook the TV up to Yamaha YSP-2500 soundbar together, which will have two devices connected via HDMI (HTPC/PS4) and also for future devices

my main priority features will be PQ, HDR and HDMI 2.0/a.
not concerned about how many smart tv features being included as this is going to be a dumb TV
shortlisted TVs so far:

LG UH650T
http://www.lg.com/sg/tvs/lg-55UH650T

Panny CX700S
http://www.panasonic.com/sg/consumer...-55cx700s.html

Sony X85D
http://www.sony.com.sg/electronics/t.../x8500d-series
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In this case, you should just plan to buy the top of the line set every year because otherwise there will always be something better.

But seriously, if you get something you are happy with you should just be satisfied. Constantly searching for something better is an expensive proposition.
Haha, yes well that might be the reason why I do enough research to make sure that my purchase is mid-to-high end and is of good quality and value for the money.

In this situation though I'm not comparing a Samsung to a Vizio. I'm comparing two Vizios from the same model series, just with different panel technology and size. In fact, it's cheaper for me to go with the P50 since it's smaller if I was really dying for those rich blacks that everyone is talking about. I've never been in a situation where a specific screen size matters so much, so this is rather new to me.

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That said, I think I will end up trying out the P55 and seeing what happens.. I'll probably notice the black levels and it might annoy me at first but I guess I'd get used to it. I wish I could buy both and compare them myself (because then I could even post that comparison here since no one else has) but that's a long shot for my limited space and budget.

Right now the pricing is as follows in Canada:
P50 - $1499.99
P55 - $1799.99
Samsung KS8000 - $2,599.99 (sale; comes with a $699 BBQ http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/category...amsungbbq.aspx)

The KS8000 is not entirely out of the picture (that sale price brings it within reach down from the usual $3200) but it's still hard to understand/justify the premium between it and the P55.

(Yes, I do realize what I said just contradicted what I said earlier about not comparing to Samsung, but I was referring to the unusual challenges of having to nitpick between sizes in the same model series)

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On the Vizio, It looks like it actually only does 4:2:2 while it says connected in 4:4:4.
http://i.rtings.com/images/reviews/p...60hz-large.jpg As another example, my RCA does the same thing, it does connect in 4:4:4 at 4k@60Hz, but does seem a little blurry. If you don't mind an IPS panel then that Sony is definitely not a bad way to go at all.

Thanks! This is my first foray into 4k TVs and I think I'm overthinking it a little - anything is going to be an upgrade on the 480p 40" Panasonic I have

How much can one expect a 2015 model to drop in price? I see it started at $1,500 and is now at $1,350. I'm not in a huge rush to get it, but I'd also prefer not to pay full retail. Do 2015 sets typically drop anymore or is this more or less the best time to buy?
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Thanks! This is my first foray into 4k TVs and I think I'm overthinking it a little - anything is going to be an upgrade on the 480p 40" Panasonic I have

How much can one expect a 2015 model to drop in price? I see it started at $1,500 and is now at $1,350. I'm not in a huge rush to get it, but I'd also prefer not to pay full retail. Do 2015 sets typically drop anymore or is this more or less the best time to buy?
They may drop in price from time to time but availability will disappear too. Honestly, many of the 2015 sets are already gone from the larger retailers.

That being said, it depends on the specific TV in question since they don't all get replaced at the same time of the year.

For the 65X810C it looks like it pre-released at $2,100, launched at $1,800 and quickly dropped to $1,700. It then commonly went on sale for $1,500. Hard to say if $1,349 is the bottom because I don't really know how much stock is left in the channel.

You need to find an insider who has access to inventory info
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They may drop in price from time to time but availability will disappear too. Honestly, many of the 2015 sets are already gone from the larger retailers.

That being said, it depends on the specific TV in question since they don't all get replaced at the same time of the year.

For the 65X810C it looks like it pre-released at $2,100, launched at $1,800 and quickly dropped to $1,700. It then commonly went on sale for $1,500. Hard to say if $1,349 is the bottom because I don't really know how much stock is left in the channel.

You need to find an insider who has access to inventory info
If $2,100 -> $1,350 is the case, then I don't feel bad about getting it at that price at all. FWIW it is listed at BB.com as "On Clearance" from $1,499 -> $1,349 but at other retailers like B&H it's listed at $1,398.

I might just pull the trigger at this point.
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If $2,100 -> $1,350 is the case, then I don't feel bad about getting it at that price at all. FWIW it is listed at BB.com as "On Clearance" from $1,499 -> $1,349 but at other retailers like B&H it's listed at $1,398.

I might just pull the trigger at this point.
Those pre-release prices are crap, I wouldn't factor that one too much. Realistically it was a 1,700 TV that was commonly available for 1,500 that is now on clearance for 1,350.
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Those pre-release prices are crap, I wouldn't factor that one too much. Realistically it was a 1,700 TV that was commonly available for 1,500 that is now on clearance for 1,350.
Fair enough. For me, it's up against the Samsung 65" KU6300 for the same price, which didn't get reviewed as well and is only a 60hz set.

Unless something comes up in the meantime, I think I will spring for the Sony.
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Those pre-release prices are crap, I wouldn't factor that one too much. Realistically it was a 1,700 TV that was commonly available for 1,500 that is now on clearance for 1,350.
Fair enough. For me, it's up against the Samsung 65" KU6300 for the same price, which didn't get reviewed as well and is only a 60hz set.

Unless something comes up in the meantime, I think I will spring for the Sony.
Keep in mind, if you are planning on going with the Sony for 120hz pc, the sony tvs introduce crazy artifacting white lines all over the screen at 120hz because theyre not made for that purpose.
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Keep in mind, if you are planning on going with the Sony for 120hz pc, the sony tvs introduce crazy artifacting white lines all over the screen at 120hz because theyre not made for that purpose.
I caught that in the rtings.com review, but they seemed to downplay the issue ("Just like with last year's Sony TVs, 1080p @ 120Hz produces little artifacts (lines), but this shouldn't be too bothersome while gaming.").

I'm using the TV 75% as a PC monitor/gaming. Does this make the KU6300 a better option?
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I'm using the TV 75% as a PC monitor/gaming. Does this make the KU6300 a better option?
The KU6300 doesn't support 120Hz at all so I don't think it is a better choice.
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Been lurking for a while, reading reviews/rtings everywhere and been to Best Buy a few times and still having some issues deciding. I haven't bought a TV in 12 Years (!) and am replacing an old 51" Sony Rear Proj. CRT so honestly, almost the sets have looked great for me in terms of picture quality lol. I've tentatively narrowed it down to a few sets (below) and would definitely appreciate a little push in one direction or another from much more educated minds than myself! My main priority is sports viewing so handling fast motion is a must but a decent viewing angle also a high priority. Not a videophile at all just looking to be satisfied overall. Up against time a *little* because my current is in the process of dying out so waiting until BF isn't an option.

Budget: <$1200 Preferred, could stretch to $1500 for a 65" if necessary.
Uses: Sports, Sports, Sports and a couple hours a week of Movies/Shows (Netflix mostly).
Size: 55"-65"
Room layout: Left Wall Length: 14ft / Width: 12ft / Right Wall: 13ft - i.imgur.com/VL2SA8L.png (furniture dimensions/colors not exact obviously)

Considering:

Sony 55/65X810C - Worried some about the panel lottery issues reported in terms of bleeding.
Sony 65X750D - Haven't seen it in person and there doesn't seem to be much on it. Price also at the absolute top of budget.
Vizio M65-D0 - Seems solid but at the top of the price at well. Seems the 55 shouldn't be considered because of the 60hz refresh?
Vizo P55 - No way I could swing the 65" price so only worry is the size.

Sorry if I rambled. Thanks for any and all input!
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Keep in mind, if you are planning on going with the Sony for 120hz pc, the sony tvs introduce crazy artifacting white lines all over the screen at 120hz because theyre not made for that purpose.
I caught that in the rtings.com review, but they seemed to downplay the issue ("Just like with last year's Sony TVs, 1080p @ 120Hz produces little artifacts (lines), but this shouldn't be too bothersome while gaming.").

I'm using the TV 75% as a PC monitor/gaming. Does this make the KU6300 a better option?
Yeah they downplay it hugely, it is extremely bothersome while gaming. It is litterally inch long horizontal white lines that flicker accross the entire screen constantly like static.
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My main priority is sports viewing so handling fast motion is a must but a decent viewing angle also a high priority. Not a videophile at all just looking to be satisfied overall. Up against time a *little* because my current is in the process of dying out so waiting until BF isn't an option.

Budget: <$1200 Preferred, could stretch to $1500 for a 65" if necessary.
Uses: Sports, Sports, Sports and a couple hours a week of Movies/Shows (Netflix mostly).
Size: 55"-65"
Room layout: Left Wall Length: 14ft / Width: 12ft / Right Wall: 13ft - i.imgur.com/VL2SA8L.png (furniture dimensions/colors not exact obviously)

Considering:

Sony 55/65X810C - Worried some about the panel lottery issues reported in terms of bleeding.
Sony 65X750D - Haven't seen it in person and there doesn't seem to be much on it. Price also at the absolute top of budget.
Vizio M65-D0 - Seems solid but at the top of the price at well. Seems the 55 shouldn't be considered because of the 60hz refresh?
Vizo P55 - No way I could swing the 65" price so only worry is the size.

Sorry if I rambled. Thanks for any and all input!
I would take the 65X810C over the 65X750D unless the X750D was a lot cheaper. 120Hz vs 60Hz plus it looks like they are using a different SoC although I don't know that definitively. As for the TV lottery, you are going to significant sample to sample variation on most LCD TVs in that price range unfortunately.

Everyone views motion differently, but if motion handling is a priority I always recommend Sony. If dark room viewing is a bigger priority than look at the Vizio M65-D0.
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UN55HU8500 still worth it?

Would it still be worth getting a UN55HU8500, or should I really be looking at the newer versions?

What's the new model that's comparable?
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Yeah they downplay it hugely, it is extremely bothersome while gaming. It is litterally inch long horizontal white lines that flicker accross the entire screen constantly like static.
Agreed. I had this issue on a KDL65W850C. VERY noticeable and distracting.
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Would it still be worth getting a UN55HU8500, or should I really be looking at the newer versions?
That is a pretty old set. The question of if it is worth it or not depends entirely on how much you are paying for it.

If you want newer features such as HDR support you would be better off getting a newer set.
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Yeah they downplay it hugely, it is extremely bothersome while gaming. It is litterally inch long horizontal white lines that flicker accross the entire screen constantly like static.
That sucks, I was pretty set on this TV. I guess I'll have to pass.
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Hello All,

I recently purchased made an impulse purchase decision on an LG 75" UH8500 for $2,800 and no sales tax (20% cash rebate). Not a good idea, I know, but the deal seemed too good to pass up. The delivery is scheduled for next week so I still have the option to cancel the order, though I will lose the option for the 20% rebate. I can still get 10% on another order (for any TV in stock at PC Richard). It was between the UH8500 and the X850D at the time, though I leaned towards the LG for Dolby Vision, "future proofing" and the favorable review on Consumer Reports which - contrary to a lot of comments on these boards - stated it had good black levels with local dimming. I will need two TV's in total in either case, one for family room (priority more on games) and one for main living rooms (priority more on movies).

Would appreciate some advise on whether I should accept delivery or look at an alternative. I am moving home in October 2016 and am not in a rush till then. Here is the context:

Budget: < $4,000 though preferably =< $3,500
Uses: Console Gaming, HTPC gaming, Playstation Vue or Sling TV streaming, movie streaming (netflix, hulu, prime etc.)
Size: moving from a 60" from about 5.5 feet away to an X" about 11 feet away. Want to maintain the same perceived size at least in the new home, which is why i leaned towards 75". This was also the recommended size in the rtings.com calculator.
Room Layout: upstairs landing / loft, TV with seating area will occupy one corner. Cannot post URL due to short history on forum. (TV wall length 12 ft, Right Side wall 14.5 ft)


Was Considering, open to more suggestions:

Sony X850D - No DolbyVision or local dimming
Vizio P Series - Concern about HTPC support (text appears fuzzy? I do browse on my HTPC as well). Maybe better for living room, except viewing angles might be a problem there.
Samsung KS8000 - Does not come in 75", would 65" be enough to maintain the viewing size i'm used to?


Thanks for any tips and suggestions!
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I think I am down to three displays, maybe 4 but I'm not keen on the new Vizio tablet

Sony 55X900C
Vizio M50-D1
Hisense 50H8C
Vizio D50u-D1

I know, different price points for the top two and the bottom two. Top two I can get at the same price and the bottom two are within $50 of each other. A $250-300 difference between the two.

Some gaming (PC and PS4/XB1) and sports mainly. Occasionally may throw a movie in but not sure if I'd be watching or listening.
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I think I am down to three displays, maybe 4 but I'm not keen on the new Vizio tablet

Sony 55X900C
Vizio M50-D1
Hisense 50H8C
Vizio D50u-D1

I know, different price points for the top two and the bottom two. Top two I can get at the same price and the bottom two are within $50 of each other. A $250-300 difference between the two.

Some gaming (PC and PS4/XB1) and sports mainly. Occasionally may throw a movie in but not sure if I'd be watching or listening.
Hands down the 900C as long as you get a good one like i did.
Best buy has them for $799 this weekend and for the $$$ they are outstanding.
Only thing is "some" have light bleed issues but the set i got does not have any issue like that at all. this is my second as the first one lost its picture.
So you may have to gamble and see but it will be worth it once you get a good one.
as a PC monitor it gets a 10 out of 10!
you can read my replies here,
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Well you guys were epically helpful when I bought my TV for my bedroom, so I figured where better than to come back when it is time to get a new living room TV. So...

Budget, this is fairly open but for a TV more than $2000 I would need reasoning to go there (for example I heard going from the KS8000 to the KS9000 is not worth the price).

I watch sports (football and tennis mostly and football season is rapidly approaching), stream everything, right now I do it through a Roku 4 (I wouldn't mind not needing the device but I will buy one if it makes it easier). Mostly streaming 4K stuff on Amazon and Netflix with some VUDU stuff when I see something I want to watch. I will probably be getting the new XBOX One S for console gaming though it will be fairly minimal as I am into competitive gaming and play on a monitor at this point (I.e. Maybe some heavy single player games and some GTA kind of stuff but probably no Call of Duty or other fast moving games such as that). I also have an Apple TV (one of the new ones) that I rarely use except to Airplay movies from my iPad or MacBook. Finally I will be buying a UHD Blu-Ray player (probably the Samsung one when I buy the TV) so it is important that UHD Blu-Rays are going to look great. For real finally I will be sitting maybe 10 feet from the screen, maybe a little closer than that but not farther and I have the ability to watch not very far off axis (viewing angle shouldn't be a huge problem but might be a consideration when watching football with people over at the house this year).

TLDR: Mostly football and movies.

The TV's I have looked at;

-Samsung 65ks8000 (maybe the 8500 though I am not sure 200 dollars for the curve is worth it)
-Sony 65x930d (I like the IPS panel and if I buy this I can get a killer deal on the Sony sound bar (HT5 I think) with some satellite speakers to make it 4.1, it is $200 off the sound bar and then 50 off each sattelite speaker.
-Vizio p65-c1 (nice price, full array, I hear it would take moving to an OLED to compete in terms of movie picture quality)

What is important? HDR (and really I don't know if Dolby Vision or HDR10 is where to go with it, but I definitely need good quality and the ability to support that content), 4K (and not like the 2015 M-series Vizio's where they only had one port for 4K @ 60), size, quality control (I read a lot on here about panel lotteries and stuff and probably would not be super happy if I had to return it 50 times lol).

What am I leaning towards thus far? The Samsung and the Sony honestly. It is for my living room and I guess I consider them the big boys in this fight heh. Plus the fact that the Vizio's features are all on the tablet and not the TV scares me a little bit.

Anyways help is super appreciated, please take into account that while the budget is flexible I don't mind spending less to still get quality that will be good and last me for at least 4-5 years. I will be buying a sound bar for the TV (which is one reason the Sony is appealing above), the full home theater system isn't necessary to me any more, I have last year's Vizio sound bar in my bedroom and am SUPER happy with it so. The Sony one sounded great even at 2.1 in the store demo. 65" is probably the minimum, from what I have seen jumping to 75" increases the cost by like double in most cases and that isn't worth it for 10" for me.

Anyways sorry for the long winded post, looking forward to having your guys' help again, as always I SUPER appreciate it.
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So after a ton of research, I've settled in on a few models that I'm quite sure one of them will be the one for me. I'll include as much info as I can about what I want and how it will be used.

Budget is around $2,000. Seating distance is around 12 feet, which is too far for 65", but that is the limit that the entertainment center can take. 58.7 inches is actually the maximum width the TV can be, ideally under 58".

Me, the person that cares most about how everything looks, will mostly use the TV for watching various movies and TV shows via streaming and video files, most of which will be 1080p, with a good number of 720p content as well. 4K content will be very little to start, more over time as it grows, as well as HDR. There will be a good bit of cable watching as well via Bright House (Time Warner or Charter Spectrum now), with that being either 720p or 1080i. I may possibly get DirecTV soon, which I think would improve quality, but that's nothing to bank on. The quality of the channels isn't always the greatest, but me, being the only one with a keen eye or would care, won't be watching a ton of cable TV, but enough for it matter, mainly sports. In fact, almost only sports via cable TV. Ones with panning cameras, mostly. Upscaling, obviously, needs to be solid.

Room lighting is not usually too bright, as most of the TV I watch is at night or close to it, or with most if not all of blinds closed. Some ambient lighting there is, nothing too dim but not too bright either.

Plex is what I will use for most media. Netflix and some Amazon as well, but Plex and sports mostly. I'll probably use my Roku 3 for Plex for everything non-4K and the TV for anything 4K.

The contenders are the Vizio P65-C1, the Sony X850D 65", and the LG 65UH8500. The comparable Samsung KS8000 is out because my dead Samsung Plasma had horrible reliability, about as bad as Samsung's Customer Service, so never again. Other reasons for me to despise Samsung as well, but won't get into. I went to Best Buy, twice, Vizio demo's were bad, Sony's great, LG's good. Sony looked best in-store, but I know how that goes. I've considered the LG to be in 3rd place, Sony in 2nd, although it was in the lead for sometime, but all the research indicates Vizio as better. I don't mind Vizio's lackluster design physically, in comparison.

Reliability has me at least a little concerned, partially because of past experience. Viewing angle, nothing too wide that it needs to look awesome, so VA panel did seem better in that regard. Dolby Vision, as well as HDR10 sounds better for future proofing. Android TV was my favorite, webOS seemed okay though, SmartCast is question mark to me, as I don't really cast anything, so unsure how well that will work for me. Shouldn't be a big deal.

Any ideas for me based on this? I'm leaning Vizio, just offers so much more for money, just wish the demos and calibration, and even the environment was better when I saw it in person.

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Is there a budget option for a 65" display offering 1080p @ 120hz for gaming? I would love to stay at 65" for my viewing distance but I am somewhat open to a 55" set if that's the way to go. I would rather have 1080p @ 120hz with a 55" within my budget than 1080p @ 60hz @ 65".

The Sony 65" XBR810c would fit the bill but as talked about earlier in this thread, it gets bad artifacts when gaming at 120hz. What else could fit the bill?
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TLDR: Mostly football and movies.

The TV's I have looked at;

-Samsung 65ks8000 (maybe the 8500 though I am not sure 200 dollars for the curve is worth it)
-Sony 65x930d (I like the IPS panel and if I buy this I can get a killer deal on the Sony sound bar (HT5 I think) with some satellite speakers to make it 4.1, it is $200 off the sound bar and then 50 off each sattelite speaker.
-Vizio p65-c1 (nice price, full array, I hear it would take moving to an OLED to compete in terms of movie picture quality)

What is important? HDR (and really I don't know if Dolby Vision or HDR10 is where to go with it, but I definitely need good quality and the ability to support that content), 4K (and not like the 2015 M-series Vizio's where they only had one port for 4K @ 60), size, quality control (I read a lot on here about panel lotteries and stuff and probably would not be super happy if I had to return it 50 times lol).

What am I leaning towards thus far? The Samsung and the Sony honestly. It is for my living room and I guess I consider them the big boys in this fight heh. Plus the fact that the Vizio's features are all on the tablet and not the TV scares me a little bit.
Personally I would lean more towards the Sony or the Vizio depending on what your priorities are. The Vizio is cheaper and has good dark room performance thanks to 128 zones of FALD. The Sony has excellent motion handling and upscaling and generally good performance.

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Me, the person that cares most about how everything looks, will mostly use the TV for watching various movies and TV shows via streaming and video files, most of which will be 1080p, with a good number of 720p content as well. 4K content will be very little to start, more over time as it grows, as well as HDR. There will be a good bit of cable watching as well via Bright House (Time Warner or Charter Spectrum now), with that being either 720p or 1080i. I may possibly get DirecTV soon, which I think would improve quality, but that's nothing to bank on. The quality of the channels isn't always the greatest, but me, being the only one with a keen eye or would care, won't be watching a ton of cable TV, but enough for it matter, mainly sports. In fact, almost only sports via cable TV. Ones with panning cameras, mostly. Upscaling, obviously, needs to be solid.

Room lighting is not usually too bright, as most of the TV I watch is at night or close to it, or with most if not all of blinds closed. Some ambient lighting there is, nothing too dim but not too bright either.

Plex is what I will use for most media. Netflix and some Amazon as well, but Plex and sports mostly. I'll probably use my Roku 3 for Plex for everything non-4K and the TV for anything 4K.

The contenders are the Vizio P65-C1, the Sony X850D 65", and the LG 65UH8500. The comparable Samsung KS8000 is out because my dead Samsung Plasma had horrible reliability, about as bad as Samsung's Customer Service, so never again. Other reasons for me to despise Samsung as well, but won't get into. I went to Best Buy, twice, Vizio demo's were bad, Sony's great, LG's good. Sony looked best in-store, but I know how that goes. I've considered the LG to be in 3rd place, Sony in 2nd, although it was in the lead for sometime, but all the research indicates Vizio as better. I don't mind Vizio's lackluster design physically, in comparison.
I have not been super impressed with LGs LCD in recent years, personally. I find motion handling to be subpar. That being said, motion handling is very subjective and perceived differently by different people.

For me, when I look at the Sony X850D, it is not super obvious what the advantages over the Sony X900C are which costs less and, for me, looks better. With either of these TVs you should know that black levels will not be awesome. Pretty much everything else is though.

At the end of the day I would go with the Vizio P65 if black levels are the priority, otherwise, Sony 65X900C



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Is there a budget option for a 65" display offering 1080p @ 120hz for gaming? I would love to stay at 65" for my viewing distance but I am somewhat open to a 55" set if that's the way to go. I would rather have 1080p @ 120hz with a 55" within my budget than 1080p @ 60hz @ 65".

The Sony 65" XBR810c would fit the bill but as talked about earlier in this thread, it gets bad artifacts when gaming at 120hz. What else could fit the bill?
I honestly don't know of any TVs that provide a great 120Hz gaming option. Supposedly the new Vizio's support 1080@60Hz.

I am not sure how big of a market the 120Hz gaming crowd is for TV manufactures. It seems like if 120Hz is a big priority for your play style you would want to avoid gaming on a TV with 20-40ms of input lag.
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1. Budget: $3-4K
2. Seating distance: 12-16 feet
3. Size/placement limitations: no limitations
4. Uses and sources: Netflix through htpc, cable, maybe light console gaming use.
5. Room lighting: overhead and standalone lamps, Windows that can be blacked out for movies but will have open when kids are watching.


I am looking for essentially the best bang for the buck in the 70+ inch range. I have looked at LG, Vizio, and Samsung mainly. I am leaning towards the Vizio P series. I am coming from an old Panasonic S1 so I want good blacks and color reproduction as a priority.
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I need to replace my Samsung LN52B750.

My Samsung LN52B750 died about two hours ago and it is time to get a new TV. I am looking for recommendations.

My budget is $1500 to 2000.

I use it for Blu-ray discs, as a computer monitor, and watching DirecTV cable.

A smart TV is okay.

I do not see in 3D so I am not sure if a 3D TV would work for me.

Size: the old TV was "52 inches", I rather not go smaller than that.

I am not religious about brands.

Thanks in advance!

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