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post #9391 of 9403 Old 08-23-2016, 11:07 PM
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Hello all, stop me if you've heard this before....I'm looking for an outdoor TV and I'm concerned about reflectivity/glare.

The TV will be under a covered patio where it will never be exposed to rain and probably never to direct sunlight of any kind, but I'm very concerned about picture quality and reflections. I visited the rtings.com site and reviewed their test results. Their list of highly rated TVs for low reflection included many Samsungs as you can see...

http://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/pictu...tte-and-glossy



My problem is that I need a very specific size of 40" (a 39" TV might also work).
I'd also like to stay under $600-700 if possible.
And, while I'd prefer UHD/4K it's not necessary. A 1080P screen will be fine.

The Samsungs at the top of the list do not seem to come in 40" sizes. That appears to be my biggest challenge. The technologies I'm starting to hear about that help reduce reflectivity like Moth Eye, etc. do not seem to be found down at the 40" screen size.

Finally, I'm aware of the matte-like screen films that can be applied to a TV to reduce glare. I really want to avoid doing that, but it is a last resort I guess.

Thanks for any advice.
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I'm looking for a 50-55" TV with low input lag and good viewing angles. Under $1000 and IPS preferred. Any suggestions?
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I'm very unhappily and reluctantly looking at LEDs coming from being a plasma owner. You have to understand, my MAIN viewing material is black and white classics and TV documentary television. It is very often DVD. I don't need "smart" anything, I have no interest in my television being connected, I never stream content. I'd literally like a screen with HDMI and component ports. I have HDMI devices that play video content and that is all. I also don't want to pay a fortune. Where am I going to get black levels like plasma and how much is it going to cost me and who makes the ones I should look at?

1. Budget - less than 500 Canadian
2. Seating distance - roughly 2-3m (8ft)
3. Size/placement limitations - It'll sit on an eye level TV stand.
4. Uses and sources - Mostly 720p film and TV, some 1080p film, video games (not hardcore gaming by any means, some sports games, some adventure games)
5. Room lighting - moderately dark (a few small lamps at night) to regular interior daylight

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Please help me!!


1. Budget= $500 to $850

2. Seating distance 8 feet

3. 55 inches

4. Gaming (Xbox One S) and I want to get into watching 4k movies/blu rays

5. Room lighting - Very Dark, shades drawn.
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Please help me!!


1. Budget= $500 to $850

2. Seating distance 8 feet

3. 55 inches

4. Gaming (Xbox One S) and I want to get into watching 4k movies/blu rays

5. Room lighting - Very Dark, shades drawn.
Hey there, I have done some research into LCD's in this price range recently. At $850 max, and a generally dark room, I recommend the 55 inch Vizio M series. This TV is 4K, has full array local dimming backlighting with 64 dimming zones, which should really help with maintaining a great black level, contrasty look in the dark. It is capable of processing both Dolby Vision and HDR10 signals from Ultra 4K HD bluray discs and streaming from Netflix and others. However, the HDR capabilities of this TV are not good, as it doesn't get bright enough to reproduce HDR. If you do want to future proof with a HDR capable TV, the budget will likely need to increase.

My last check Best Buy had the 55M-D0 Vizio on sale for $800.

Hope that helps

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Hey there, I have done some research into LCD's in this price range recently. At $850 max, and a generally dark room, I recommend the 55 inch Vizio M series. This TV is 4K, has full array local dimming backlighting with 64 dimming zones, which should really help with maintaining a great black level, contrasty look in the dark. It is capable of processing both Dolby Vision and HDR10 signals from Ultra 4K HD bluray discs and streaming from Netflix and others. However, the HDR capabilities of this TV are not good, as it doesn't get bright enough to reproduce HDR. If you do want to future proof with a HDR capable TV, the budget will likely need to increase.

My last check Best Buy had the 55M-D0 Vizio on sale for $800.

Hope that helps
It does, and I thank you very much.
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Ok, I'll try and reword my request for help.

Considering 3 TVs for a 65" 4K HDR to use with my Xbox One S to replace my Vizio VF552XVT.

1. budget $2k
2. Seating distance 12ft
3. 65"
4. Movies and gaming, Netflix/Amazon/discs via Xbox One S
5. Can be darkened with blinds bit some unavoidable light in the day

Concerns -
The Vizio P Series seems to be very reflective, input lag for gaming?
I am reading the Samsung KS8000 have bad judder issues?
Sony X850 seems to be all around a slightly lesser quality but maybe it hits the needs better?

Key hopes - Black blacks, low lag, not too reflective, stunning picture, watch sports and fast action.

I'll figure out the audio piece later. I value your feedback and input.

Thank you

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LOL, thanks for the levity.

I realize it is pretty particular question, I'm just struggling with the cost vs benefit of the extra 10".

On one hand, $800 is a not-insignificant amount for me... on the other, getting a decent 65" set for $800 is a good deal in and of itself. That, and with a 10' viewing distance, 65" seems to be the minimum to distinguish 4k. Ugh. First world problems...


I'm not expert on it, but every time you watch the tv you might either feel good you got the 65" or wonder how much better the 65" would be.


Sorry, that's how buying these things are for many. If you don't feel that way, you might be able to enjoy the 55" which is perfectly nice.
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Samsung UN55KU6300 Or Vizio M55-DO?

Gaming, and watching movies? Less judder, and can vibe with the Xbox one s

Im flip flopping every single day.

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Samsung UN55KU6300 Or Vizio M55-DO?

Gaming, and watching movies? Less judder, and can vibe with the Xbox one s

Im flip flopping every single day.
I am partial to the Vizio because it has FALD backlighting.

Both have low input lag for games

Check out reviews of both at Rtings.com, they seem to have pretty comprehensive reviews of both TVs.

Good luck with your choice!

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which is better for PC 1080p movies/gaming (120hz would be nice but not required)?

Samsung J6200
VIZIO D
VIZIO E
TCL FS3750
TCL FS3800

5.1 small-room size: 800 ft³+ 54 ft³ corner door space
AVR: Denon 1712
Fronts: Pioneer SP-BS41-LR /Center: Pioneer SP-C21 / Rear: Pioneer SP-BS21-LR
Subwoofer: SVS PC12-NSD
Screen: Samsung UN46EH6070 46" 1080p 3D LED 240 CMR TV
Viewing distance: 7.33 ft

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We would appreciate assistance with our purchase
Budget is ~600.
Dark Room
Distance ~10 ft.
max size space support is 50"
cable, OTA antenna, netflix, amazon, sports, blu-ray/dvd

under consideration at the moment
Samsung UN50KU6300
LG 49UH6500
Hisense 50H8C
Vizio E50-D1

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Hi, my LG 60PB5600 plasma died. Getting it fixed under credit card warranty, but decided to check out a 4k LED while I could get a great price on an LG 65UH7700. This is my first LED big screen (been using plasma for past 7 years) and while I'm really happy in general, I really like my evening, low light movie watching and one thing is absolutely terrible about this panel and I'm wondering if you think it might be a defect, or normal for an edge lit panel.

For example, when using the "mouse" smart control on a dark screen or dark picture background, an entire vertical band glows from top to bottom. I would think of this as dimming zones, but I only count about 6 vertical bands or zones across the entire display. Local dimming enabled on low, but setting any other setting doesn't eliminate the problem. Turning local dimming off to eliminate it I simply can't get it calibrated with good blacks...without everything being too dark.

Am I just spoiled by plasma, and looks like my future is either a direct lit panel (typically 9 series or Vizio M/p panel) if I want a comparable led for blacks? Are all edge lit panels pretty much like this?

Thanks!
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