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Hello,
I'm looking for a good Full HD in the 40''-50'' range for my parents. I don't want a 4K, since they don't have 4K content at the moment and Internet is such a disaster in my country (Italy) that they are not likely to have 4K content available in the short-to-mid term. They usually just watch movies, so the tv is not gonna be used as a monitor for PC or game console.
So what is the consensus on 40''-50'' Full HD tvs?
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Hello,
I'm looking for a good Full HD in the 40''-50'' range for my parents. I don't want a 4K, since they don't have 4K content at the moment and Internet is such a disaster in my country (Italy) that they are not likely to have 4K content available in the short-to-mid term. They usually just watch movies, so the tv is not gonna be used as a monitor for PC or game console.
So what is the consensus on 40''-50'' Full HD tvs?
Thanks in advance!
Having no idea what is available in Italy its hard to be specific. But all 1080p sets are budget models and most all are 60 Hz panels. They are all mediocre performers and you should probably decide whether your parents will need the wide viewing angle of an IPS panel. If not, get a VA panel set for deeper black levels. The Sony W650D which comes in 40" and 48" size is a VA panel set with pretty decent sound and doesn't have judder in true 24p playback (Blu-ray) while 24p via 60p and 60i will have judder. All cheap Samsungs have judder in all 24p sources and have worse overall motion handling than Sony.

To be honest today, even if you're not likely to view native 4K content, you're probably better off with a 4K set since they generally have better video processing will support the latest features. 4K sets by Sony and Samsung have excellent upscaling of 720p and 1080p video so they will perform very well with regular HD content.
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To be honest today, even if you're not likely to view native 4K content, you're probably better off with a 4K set since they generally have better video processing will support the latest features. 4K sets by Sony and Samsung have excellent upscaling of 720p and 1080p video so they will perform very well with regular HD content.
Thanks for your reply. My reasoning for 1080p over 4k was that, given a certain budget and no 4k content, it would be better to buy a good 1080p than a mediocre 4k. Does it make sense to you?
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Thanks for your reply. My reasoning for 1080p over 4k was that, given a certain budget and no 4k content, it would be better to buy a good 1080p than a mediocre 4k. Does it make sense to you?
There are no good 1080p sets anymore, they are all bargain mediocre ones. Good luck with your search.
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A few moving parts to this question. I Currently have a 55" Sony 850c in the Family room. Family room seating is about 12' back and some seating to the side. Max size TV in this room is 60" because of Built in.

I currently don't have any complaints with the 850c. It is bright enough for us and no complaints via off center viewing. The only real reason to upgrade is to go larger and move this TV to the room I will describe below. The only real 60" options seem to be the KS8000 and the LGUH8500. The LG can be had for about $1000 right now locally. I am leaning toward leaving the 55 850c and just purchasing a TV for the room below.


1. Budget
Max ~$1000

2. Seating distance
5-7'

3. Size/placement limitations
The TV will be on a normal height stand

4. Uses and sources
Movies, smart TV, and video games. 4k HDR. Setting up Dolby Atmos 3.1.2. 3D maybe

5. Room lighting
Can be 95% dark. Only one window that can be closed with a thick plantation shutter.

6. Extra Info
Basically taking a small 10x11 extra bedroom and attempting to create a mini theater.

I just bought a new 55" Samsung KU6290 for $500 total that I haven't opened that I can still return. May just keep it but debating getting a better TV with the deals popping up right now but this TV seems to be a lot of bang for the buck. 55 is big enough but a 65 would be better.

Debating between these deals right now but I am open to other suggestions but really do not want to jump into OLED prices.

1. LG 55 UH8500 - $850 (Passive 3d intrigues me but IPS panel in dark room scares me.)
2. LG 65 UH8500 - $1200 (See above)
3. Samsung 65 KU7000F - $1100
4. Sony 65 850c refurb - Comes with 1 year Square trade warranty and 30 day return policy - $900
5. Sony 65 930d refurb - Comes with 1 year Square trade warranty and 30 day return policy - $1050
(This TV has a chipped corner on front of stand and a 6 inch blemish on bottom of screen that is supposedly only noticeable when TV is off)
6. Keep 55" Samsung 6290 at $500

Thanks in advance for suggestions and replies.
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1. LG 55 UH8500 - $850 (Passive 3d intrigues me but IPS panel in dark room scares me.)
2. LG 65 UH8500 - $1200 (See above)
3. Samsung 65 KU7000F - $1100
4. Sony 65 850c refurb - Comes with 1 year Square trade warranty and 30 day return policy - $900
5. Sony 65 930d refurb - Comes with 1 year Square trade warranty and 30 day return policy - $1050
(This TV has a chipped corner on front of stand and a 6 inch blemish on bottom of screen that is supposedly only noticeable when TV is off)
6. Keep 55" Samsung 6290 at $500
OK, here's what I think. Take it or leave it.

1. No - The UH8500 is fairly dull with poor black levels but a wider viewing angle.
2. No - Same as above just bigger and more expensive.
3. No - The KU7000 is usual 60 Hz Samsung judder machine and not even as bright as the cheaper KU6300 judder queen.
4. Maybe - You like your Sony 850C but it's kind of boring to have two of the same.
5. Yes - The Sony 930D would be my choice since it is the best set in your list.
6. Take it back - Its another 60 Hz Samsung judder box.
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6. Take it back - Its another 60 Hz Samsung judder box.
I have the 6290 and while I admit that on "some" content (far from all content), there is some judder which is correctable with a bit of motion control (but just a little so that I don't get that dreaded SOE), calling it the queen of judder or a judder box is a bit of an over exaggeration. It's not perfect but at 500 dollars, it's got to be the steal of the century.

The one thing that I really miss, however, is full HDR capability. THAT I wish I had.
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OK, here's what I think. Take it or leave it.

1. No - The UH8500 is fairly dull with poor black levels but a wider viewing angle.
2. No - Same as above just bigger and more expensive.
3. No - The KU7000 is usual 60 Hz Samsung judder machine and not even as bright as the cheaper KU6300 judder queen.
4. Maybe - You like your Sony 850C but it's kind of boring to have two of the same.
5. Yes - The Sony 930D would be my choice since it is the best set in your list.
6. Take it back - Its another 60 Hz Samsung judder box.
I appreciate the advice. Something not on my list I should be considering

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I have the 6290 and while I admit that on "some" content (far from all content), there is some judder which is correctable with a bit of motion control (but just a little so that I don't get that dreaded SOE), calling it the queen of judder or a judder box is a bit of an over exaggeration. It's not perfect but at 500 dollars, it's got to be the steal of the century.

The one thing that I really miss, however, is full HDR capability. THAT I wish I had.
I thought it was a great deal to but these seem be selling often for around $500 now.
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I have the 6290 and while I admit that on "some" content (far from all content), there is some judder which is correctable with a bit of motion control (but just a little so that I don't get that dreaded SOE), calling it the queen of judder or a judder box is a bit of an over exaggeration. It's not perfect but at 500 dollars, it's got to be the steal of the century.

The one thing that I really miss, however, is full HDR capability. THAT I wish I had.
I was specifically calling out Samsung on the 24p performance of their 60 Hz budget sets, which they should be embarrassed about. There's no reason for it other than they just don't give a damn. And having dealt with Samsung on other elements of their product line, I can tell you from experience that they don't care one bit about their customers or customer service. But, if you don't watch Blu-rays or other 24p movie content, yeah then it's fine. But if you do, its a judder box.
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I appreciate the advice. Something not on my list I should be considering.
Well you listed at the top the of your post the 60" Samsung KS8000. A pretty narrow viewing angle (it has a different panel than the other KS8000 sizes), but a good performer all around. 120 Hz Samsungs don't suffer any judder woes and have decent brightness and black levels. So you could consider that one too.
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Well you listed at the top the of your post the 60" Samsung KS8000. A pretty narrow viewing angle (it has a different panel than the other KS8000 sizes), but a good performer all around. 120 Hz Samsungs don't suffer any judder woes and have decent brightness and black levels. So you could consider that one too.
What panel does the KS 8000 60" have? Panel in 55 and 65? You like it better than the 850c or a scratch and dent 930d?

Pretty small room the tv will be in plus I don't have any issues with the sony 850c viewing angle. Samsung is probably as good? I just would really like to create a real movie effect in the room since it is very dark.

I guess I keep bringing in Sony because I like android TV but I am sure Samsung Tizen is fine.
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I thought it was a great deal to but these seem be selling often for around $500 now.
They're back up to 799 at every place I looked including BestBuy. Sure glad I picked mine up at the 499 price point.

Buying a TV is like playing the commodities market. hehe...
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