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...The only thing that concerns me is the operating system. Is it laggy on the 900e?
At times, yes. There are some things you can do, such as eliminating the app notifications and the 'recommended favorites' from appearing on the home screen. I changed this last night, so too early to tell, but promising so far. You could also save even more getting a smaller x900e if your distance allows a smaller set. Currently a premium of $1500 for the 75" vs the 65".

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Thank you for the response! I put the order in yesterday and skipped the extended warranty. About a week until i get my new 930E. Will be my first "high end" tv and I couldn't be more excited about it. I owe a lot to the people on here for helping and guiding my choice for the TV and my atmos home theater system. Should be all set up in about a month!
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That depends on how far from the TV will you be sitting. If you're 10 feet or closer, I'd go with the XBR65X930E since it is better all around and has the DV capability you're concerned with while being $700 cheaper. But, if you're watching from further away, the 75" screen of the XBR75X900E will be a much better experience at $1,500 less than the XBR75X940E. Also, as far as the XBR75X940E is concerned, Rtings reports motion issues stating that fast moving objects often have visible trails. While I've seen the 900E and 930E, which both looked good, I haven't had a chance to play with the 940E. Both the 900E and 930E have excellent motion control for LCDs.
I'll be less than 10 ft away so I'm leaning towards the 930e and save myself some $ and have a better picture and faster operating system.
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I'll be less than 10 ft away so I'm leaning towards the 930e and save myself some $ and have a better picture and faster operating system.
I think that would be the right decision for you. The only other set to consider, if you're not in an overly bright room, would be the LG OLED65C7P which has pretty much unlimited viewing angles vs. the bad off angle characteristics of a VA panel. I'm not a big fan of ABL, but other than that LG OLEDs are at top of the PQ meter but at around $800 dollars more. And it supports DV also and has a much better smart platform in WebOS.
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Hi there!

I'm terribly picky about color accuracy. When I was 4 I was playing NES on a Commodor 64 monitor using composite video (the best you could do in those days!) and I still have my precious Sony WEGA 27" CRT that has always been outstanding currently serving my retrogaming hub. I switch between a 6500k calibration on my HDTV and PC mode for movies and gaming respectively. In short, I'm a videophile through and through.

I've been looking for a nice LCD monitor for my computer (HD, 24", ~$200) and I'm beginning to think that my color taste is higher class than my budget. From what I've read, it seems that even most IPS panels in the $200 range have a tough time reproducing color accurately and that I'd have to spring for something in the $400-$500 range minimum if I were to hope for color reproduction ala a high quality CRT.

Would you say this is correct? I just bought a Dell Ultrasharp U2412m and it's taken quite a bit of time to get the picture to an acceptable level, as the picture is (of course) too bright out of the box and the contrast setting affects the color as well. Nevertheless, I think I'm OK now, but my question is essentially: Is it too much to expect for a $200 IPS panel to give excellent color reproduction nowadays?

Thanks for the input.

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Buying a TV this weekend - need your opinions

Going to be moving into a new house and as such, will need to get a TV. I have a budget of $1500 but would like to spend less if there isn't a significant difference between the models. Have a pretty good size wall (17 ft.) and the TV will be used in what is known as the great room. We will be watching from a distance of about 9-10 ft. away and I'm considering either a 55" or 65" model. I mention the 55" as a choice as I could probably get a better quality set at a similar of lessor cost. These are the sets I'm looking at now:

Sony XBR65X850E - $1499
Sony XBR-65X750D - $1199
Vizio - M65-E0 $1049
Samsung - UN65MU7000FXZA - $1399

55" sets

Sony XBR55X900E - $1299
Vizio P55-E1 - $969

Will also be pairing this with a Sonos Soundbar. Your advuce will be appreciated as this is very confusing.
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Going to be moving into a new house and as such, will need to get a TV. I have a budget of $1500 but would like to spend less if there isn't a significant difference between the models. Have a pretty good size wall (17 ft.) and the TV will be used in what is known as the great room. We will be watching from a distance of about 9-10 ft. away and I'm considering either a 55" or 65" model. I mention the 55" as a choice as I could probably get a better quality set at a similar of lessor cost. These are the sets I'm looking at now:

Sony XBR65X850E - $1499
Sony XBR-65X750D - $1199
Vizio - M65-E0 $1049
Samsung - UN65MU7000FXZA - $1399

55" sets

Sony XBR55X900E - $1299
Vizio P55-E1 - $969

Will also be pairing this with a Sonos Soundbar. Your advuce will be appreciated as this is very confusing.
I have the Vizio p55. Great set. Deep black levels, especially for an IPS panel. Probably one of the best IPS panels you can get due to the FALD system. You will get Dolby Vision and HDR10. Can't go wrong.
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What's the best ~40 inch to use for a PC monitor? Random tasks, not gaming. It'll be a secondary screen, so it just needs to be easy to read and not lag like hell.
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Question Help with Best 55" for my set situation

Hello everyone,

Looking for some advice on a purchasing a 55 inch LCD TV to fit the following situation. I am aware that based on the seating distance from the screen I should be going with a much larger size but this is not an option. That being said here is what i am working with:

Budget - $1000 max but would like to stay around $750.00 if possible.

Seating Distance - 12 feet - center of screen will be at eye level. Mounted to a suspended stand (Z-line)

Size - 55 inch. Current set is 46 inch Sony KDL-46W3000 purchased in 2008

Uses - AVR with 5.1 sound system - Denon with HTD speakers and SVS sub
Have a wired network connection to the TV with adequate speed.
Roof mounted OTA Antenna for local networks
Streaming from Netflix, hulu etc.
Occasional DVD/Blue Ray viewing
The only sport I really watch with regularity is Hockey. Occasional auto race or round of golf. No other major sports.
Don't currently have cable or satellite service.
Will be subscribing to some type of streaming service once Hockey season begins - Sling/Playstation Vue/Youtube?

Room Lighting - room is moderately lit. Would say it is comparable to being in the shade during the day saly like under a covered patio. Have the ability to darken if needed by shutting blinds.

From what I have read HD and UHD will probably lost because of the distance.

Your advice is greatly appreciated.

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Help me choose a TV.

Hey guys.

I´m close to buying a Panasonic 50EX700E, but i want to hear your opinion first. I´m gonna use my new TV for gaming on my PS4 and WIIU, but also as a PC monitor for my PC. I also watch some movies now and then too. Is that a good choice? It will cost me 1070 dollars.

I was also looking at a Samsung MU7000 which price and size are the same. Can you help me choose or do you have other recommendations in the same price range.

The HDR is fake and bad on the EX700E, but how about the Samsung MU7000?
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Looking to buy either a Vizio M65-D0, Vizio P65-C1, Samsung 65" UN65KS850D or UN65KS900 for a dedicated dark HT room this week. The TV will not be used for any regular TV shows, sports watching etc. but do have some Blu-Ray TV shows re-encoded with 720p. My current TV, a Samsung 55" KU6300 4K TV, is connected to a Samsung UBD-K8500 4K HDR Ultra HD Blu-Ray Player. All source materials are fed through UBD-K8500 (Resolution is set to Auto, so the upscaling is done by UBD-K8500 Blu-ray player) and the picture look pretty good on the KU6300. However, the blacks are quite good on this set and hence looking to upgrade to get better blacks and go bigger at the same time. I am a big fan of Samsung. I have three sets in different rooms and all going strong. Two of them (42" LCD) was bought in 2008 and still going strong. The KU6300 was bought last year. Not a single issue with any of them.

I will be buying refurbished (with extended warranty, maybe??) to save money and here is what each will cost me.

Vizio M65-D0 $799
Vizio P65-C1 $1299
Samsung 65" UN65KS850D $1299
Samsung 65" UN65KS900 $1399

Given my setup and watching preference, are any of the above worth $500-$600 premium? Which one should I get?

I want to hear opinions from people who don't have a dog in the fight.

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Looking to buy either a Vizio M65-D0, Vizio P65-C1, Samsung 65" UN65KS850D or UN65KS900 for a dedicated dark HT room this week. The TV will not be used for any regular TV shows, sports watching etc. but do have some Blu-Ray TV shows re-encoded with 720p. My current TV, a Samsung 55" KU6300 4K TV, is connected to a Samsung UBD-K8500 4K HDR Ultra HD Blu-Ray Player. All source materials are fed through UBD-K8500 (Resolution is set to Auto, so the upscaling is done by UBD-K8500 Blu-ray player) and the picture look pretty good on the KU6300. However, the blacks are quite good on this set and hence looking to upgrade to get better blacks and go bigger at the same time. I am a big fan of Samsung. I have three sets in different rooms and all going strong. Two of them (42" LCD) was bought in 2008 and still going strong. The KU6300 was bought last year. Not a single issue with any of them.

I will be buying refurbished (with extended warranty, maybe??) to save money and here is what each will cost me.

Vizio M65-D0 $799
Vizio P65-C1 $1299
Samsung 65" UN65KS850D $1299
Samsung 65" UN65KS900 $1399

Given my setup and watching preference, are any of the above worth $500-$600 premium? Which one should I get?
I just got the Vizio P65-C1 for $1500 from Costco, came with 2 year warranty. It has 128 backlight zones, with Dolby Vision HDR.

The picture is quite remarkable, both 4K HDR and 1080p look sooooooooooooo nice.

Costco had the M65-D0 for $1k, that has 32 backlight zones, also with Dolby Vision.

I personally like the Vizio TVs as they don't have any apps built in as such, so the TV never gets laggy. This is why I didn't get a Sony, also because they cost a lot more to get a good model.
If you want good HDR, get one that has a lot of backlight zones and that supports Dolby Vision. Samsung does not support Dolby Vision, it makes a difference.

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I just got the Vizio P65-C1 for $1500 from Costco, came with 2 year warranty. It has 128 backlight zones, with Dolby Vision HDR.

The picture is quite remarkable, both 4K HDR and 1080p look sooooooooooooo nice.

Costco had the M65-D0 for $1k, that has 32 backlight zones, also with Dolby Vision.

I personally like the Vizio TVs as they don't have any apps built in as such, so the TV never gets laggy. This is why I didn't get a Sony, also because they cost a lot more to get a good model.
If you want good HDR, get one that has a lot of backlight zones and that supports Dolby Vision. Samsung does not support Dolby Vision, it makes a difference.
Thanks jinj. I will stop by Costco and check out both.

I want to hear opinions from people who don't have a dog in the fight.
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I currently have a 70", 65" Vizio 2017 Series and a 60" Vizio 2016 M-Series. I believe I've gotten incredibly lucky with these panels since I can't find any major blooming or banding on them. Truth is I want to go OLED and have my eye on the C6 from last year which I can get at a pretty good price, but when I went to my local Micro Center the wow factor just wasn't there for me. I do like to watch all my movies and series in complete darkness. Do you guys think a 65" OLED will be a major upgrade over the 70" E-Series. I need just a push in the right direction.
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I went from a E75-E3 to the P65-C1, I can see a large difference in quality. I returned the E75-E3, it had a lot clouding around the screen edges.

In a darker room, an OLED will work great. In a bright room LCDs are still brighter at the moment.
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Looking to buy either a Vizio M65-D0, Vizio P65-C1, Samsung 65" UN65KS850D or UN65KS900 for a dedicated dark HT room this week. The TV will not be used for any regular TV shows, sports watching etc. but do have some Blu-Ray TV shows re-encoded with 720p. My current TV, a Samsung 55" KU6300 4K TV, is connected to a Samsung UBD-K8500 4K HDR Ultra HD Blu-Ray Player. All source materials are fed through UBD-K8500 (Resolution is set to Auto, so the upscaling is done by UBD-K8500 Blu-ray player) and the picture look pretty good on the KU6300. However, the blacks are quite good on this set and hence looking to upgrade to get better blacks and go bigger at the same time. I am a big fan of Samsung. I have three sets in different rooms and all going strong. Two of them (42" LCD) was bought in 2008 and still going strong. The KU6300 was bought last year. Not a single issue with any of them.

I will be buying refurbished (with extended warranty, maybe??) to save money and here is what each will cost me.

Vizio M65-D0 $799
Vizio P65-C1 $1299
Samsung 65" UN65KS850D $1299
Samsung 65" UN65KS900 $1399

Given my setup and watching preference, are any of the above worth $500-$600 premium? Which one should I get?
The Vizio M65 is low-end compared to your other choices and the Samsung KS 850D is curved, so I think you should eliminate both of them. Between the Vizio P65-C1 and the Samsung UN65KS900D (?) both are pretty decent with the Samsung doing better with 720p upscaling and the Vizio having decent FALD and Dolby Vision. So if the Blu-Ray TV shows re-encoded with 720p is important, go with the Samsung if not then the Vizio P would be a good choice.
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Hey guys.

I´m close to buying a Panasonic 50EX700E, but i want to hear your opinion first. I´m gonna use my new TV for gaming on my PS4 and WIIU, but also as a PC monitor for my PC. I also watch some movies now and then too. Is that a good choice? It will cost me 1070 dollars.

I was also looking at a Samsung MU7000 which price and size are the same. Can you help me choose or do you have other recommendations in the same price range.

The HDR is fake and bad on the EX700E, but how about the Samsung MU7000?
Don't have any experience with Panasonics since they're not sold here in the US, but reviews do state it has WCG and some form of edge-lit local dimming but with a fairly dim panel. The Samsung has no local dimming (CE dimming = frame dimming) and is also fairly dim, but does have WCG and excellent contrast, and is decent for gaming. It is a 60 Hz TV that has judder from any 24p source if you're sensitive to that.
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I need some advice on finding a tv for my elderly in laws. They are moving and will thus put their old Panny Plasma in their bedroom. The place they are moving to has more light (although can be controlled) and the seating will be different so they need something with good viewing angles. I think that really leaves IPS panels correct? I guess that would mean Sony or LG? I'm thinking a 65" tv should do the trick. They will primarily watch hd cable (Comcast) and the occasional blu ray. Although they may stream some 4k stuff from netflix and or or amazon prime. Can anyone offer some suggestions?

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I need some advice on finding a tv for my elderly in laws. They are moving and will thus put their old Panny Plasma in their bedroom. The place they are moving to has more light (although can be controlled) and the seating will be different so they need something with good viewing angles. I think that really leaves IPS panels correct? I guess that would mean Sony or LG? I'm thinking a 65" tv should do the trick. They will primarily watch hd cable (Comcast) and the occasional blu ray. Although they may stream some 4k stuff from netflix and or or amazon prime. Can anyone offer some suggestions?

Thanks,

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The Sony XBR65X750D has the widest IPS viewing angle available for about $1,200. It's also a 120 Hz panel with good motion control and no 24p judder issues. The new LGs have rather narrow viewing angles for IPS panel as far as color shift is concerned. Plus, except for the high end SJ LGs, they have 60 Hz RGBW "4K" panels.
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The Sony XBR65X750D has the widest IPS viewing angle available for about $1,200. It's also a 120 Hz panel with good motion control and no 24p judder issues. The new LGs have rather narrow viewing angles for IPS panel as far as color shift is concerned. Plus, except for the high end SJ LGs, they have 60 Hz RGBW "4K" panels.
This sony might fit the bill. When you mention good motion control does that mean I can get rid of the soap opera effect on it? Also is it a 10bit panel with HDR? Is this a 2017 model?

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This sony might fit the bill. When you mention good motion control does that mean I can get rid of the soap opera effect on it? Also is it a 10bit panel with HDR? Is this a 2017 model?

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It is a 2016 model that is still available (my Best Buy has it and Amazon does too). It has a 10-bit panel and does support HDR. It has a fast response time, which results in very little motion blur and, as I said previously, it handles 24p from any source without judder as most 120 Hz panels do. You can add or remove the soap opera affect using motion interpolation options.
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I am on the market for a 50"-55" 4k HDTV in the "best bang for your money" category. The two options I am looking at are the

TCL 55P605 and the Vizio M50-E1

Both are $599 (but the Vizio is from B&H so there would be no taxes).

Help me choose, please.

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I am on the market for a 50"-55" 4k HDTV in the "best bang for your money" category. The two options I am looking at are the

TCL 55P605 and the Vizio M50-E1

Both are $599.

Help me choose, please.
These sets have very similar overall performance, but the TCL is 55" vs. 50" and with Roku built is the better of the two.
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We are looking into picking up the Vizio Model#P55-E1. For the ones that have it, how does the image quality look with fast moving sports? Does it have any stuttering?

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We are looking into picking up the Vizio Model#P55-E1. For the ones that have it, how does the image quality look with fast moving sports? Does it have any stuttering?

Thanks.
The 2017 Vizio P55-E1 is the same as the 2016 P55-C1 except for the tablet going away so the menus are accessed from the TV via a standard remote. The P55-C1 is a 120 Hz set with excellent motion control and no judder for 24p movies from any source. Be aware that the 55" has an IPS panel while the other Vizio P sizes have VA panels. So lower contrast but better off-angle viewing.
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The 2017 Vizio P55-E1 is the same as the 2016 P55-C1 except for the tablet going away so the menus are accessed from the TV via a standard remote. The P55-C1 is a 120 Hz set with excellent motion control and no judder for 24p movies from any source. Be aware that the 55" has an IPS panel while the other Vizio P sizes have VA panels. So lower contrast but better off-angle viewing.
Thank you for responding and providing valuable input. We decided to go forward with the Vizio as it was on sale at Vizio.com, with free shipping plus and additional 5% off. This seems to be a very active thread on this forum which is important and includes involvement from a Vizio rep. That was important to our decision.
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Thank you for responding and providing valuable input. We decided to go forward with the Vizio as it was on sale at Vizio.com, with free shipping plus and additional 5% off. This seems to be a very active thread on this forum which is important and includes involvement from a Vizio rep. That was important to our decision.
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Have my choices boiled down to two sets.Vizio P75-e1 or Sony xbr75 900e. Would like to opt for the Vizio but having never owned one I don't know about their reliability.I know the 900 e doesn't support DV,so help me :0).Will be watching at a direct angle in a dark room.
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I'm just trying to get some more information so that I can make an informed decision....

I'm curious what people can tell me about the LG SJ8500 (preferably the 55 inch) beyond what the Rtings review has said for it?

I'm looking to get something after my KS8000 was junked out due to some issues with it.

I'd love to get an OLED, and I may still find that I can afford to get one, but as of right now I'm not banking on that happening, so I'm looking at this model. I know the Rtings review wasn't kind to its black or gray uniformity, nor it's local dimming feature. If I were to get this TV, it would be our living room TV, and we never watch anything in complete darkness. We either have natural light coming in from our patio blinds (and some from our dining room window blinds--it's kind of a small apartment, so those have some impact), and at night we have light provided by a Phillips Hue lightbulb on our end table lamp.

I know that I can't get the great picture detail that an OLED gives with this model, but I've read that it supports 4 different HDR techs (HDR10, DV, HLG, and Technicolor HDR)--which seems like it would be sort of "future proofed", and it is one of LG's Super UHD TV's, which according to Vudumeans that the native Vudu App supports 4K HDR and Dolby Vision (because I do have some titles redeemed in UHD on Vudu).

So if anyone has one, or has a friend who has one, can you share some thoughts with me? What settings would be best to maximize the PQ, how do you like it, etc.

Thanks!
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