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Hello,
Wife just made me sell my Sony KDS 60A2000 as it doesn't fit in our new 12' wide row house. I had it for 4 years and loved the picture. Bittersweet, but now I am in the market for a new TV!

1. Budget: $1,500 - 2,000
2. Seating Distance: ~10 ft
3. Size/Placement Constraints: Wall mount (required), TV center is ~5ft high (not required).
4. Uses and sources: Primary TV, mix of TV and gaming (PS3/360 FPS)
5. Room Lighting: Bright, next to wall of windows (i.e. LCD Matte finish)

Looking at cnet and Consumer Reports, it seems like Sony and Samsung dominate the reviews with a few LGs and the Vizio XVT3SV making a good showing. In store LG didn't wow me and I can't see Vizio as my main TV (I have one I like in my BR right now though).

So, Sony and Samsung are in the lead. Edge lit LED, Full LED, and standard LCDs are all in the running. Are the flashlighting issues with the edge lit TVs still common? I'm not a videophile, but that would probably bother me.

I am just looking for the best picture quality in a bright room. I have the gaming systems, so apps are less important. Though wifi *might* be nice, I'm not sure if I would use it or not. Oh, and I'm not interested in 3D. If it's 3D ready, great, but not a differentiator for me.

Any help is greatly appreciated, I'm overwhelmed by the options out there now.
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Its SD, bluray movies and ps3.

I'm going to get HD receiver but SD would be most of the time for sure.

Seating distance is 9 - 12 feet.

You'd suggest to stay with 55"?

For SD source there is no need to have bigger screen. You will have lower quality with bigger screen size. I would take 55.
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The Sony is a more known quantity to me. I just got that size and model for my brother.

So I couldnt really say.

As I lack knowledge about some of the finer points of the Sharp.

The Sony is a good all-a-rounder. I dont like the remote particularly. The menu system is serviceable but basic compared to Sony's higher end menu system. PQ is great. Works well as a computer monitor and with playing games.

Here is an in depth review from Televisioninfo.com


Here is the LG 32LD450 reviewed by Televisioninfo.com

Well, as luck would have it, I have a friend of a friend who works at a B&M store who can get me the Sharp LC-40LE820UN for .......ready for this.... $550 before taxes. I guess that's the TV I'm going for.
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Hello, I have 2 TVs im struggling to decide on.
Sony HX800 (3d) and the Sharp 810.
I didnt notice a whole lot difference in the 3D effects but certain things as games look great. The best LED tv in Futureshop I have seen was the Sharp LED 810. Picture was maginificant! However, I did not see the 2D on the HX800. It is about $800 more for the Sony. Does any actual experts know if the quality of the 2D is like the Sharp 810?
I dont mind paying the extra 800 if the PQ is like the Sharp. Because I do like the 3D and im sure there will be more content and better 3d images will get better. Plus I hear the Sony hx800''s 3D effects are better then Samsungs,Pannys. I wanted to see the 2d but they did not have it available as they were showing demos of 3d content. I love both TVs. What to do?????
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I'm about to pull the trigger on LG 42LD520 for $606. Any other similar priced 1080P 120hz 42" LCD I should consider before doing so?
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Well, finally I got the Sammy 6300...
My overall impression was very good...color intensity is terrific, mainly after calibration, even right from the store it came quite good.
You may notice the corner flashlight immediately...specially on dark scenes, however nothing to be disturbing.
What I really liked is the immense alternatives to watch ANY kind of video formats from its USB port (mkv, avi-xvid, MPGs..all!!) which make me save some bucks for a media player.
After place the set in my bedroom before placed in the family room, I decide to buy a 46EX500 or EX700 for that place, finding the 55' a little bigger, not too much, but thought about the intensity of the light which might bother my sleeping wife and may save me some bucks.
Thanks all who help in my decision.
After buying the 46EX Sony I will post my impressions.

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1. Seating distance
About 11 feet

2. Uses and sourcesSD/HDTV - 45%
Bluray - 30%
Xbox 360 - 25%

5. Room lightingNo direct sunlight. Windows on the far right with blinds.

I can't decide between:
Sony 55-NX810
Samsung 55-C7000
Samsung 55-C8000

Any help would be appreciated.
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Hello,

I won some points and now i can pick a gift.
I can pick 3 different samsung tv`s

UE40C6530UKXXU
LE40C650L1KXXU
LE40C580J1KXXU

i like the 6530 because it is very thin. But how is the quality compared to the other ones?

i`m laying right in front of the TV (bedroom) 7 feet!
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Well, finally I got the Sammy 6300...
My overall impression was very good...color intensity is terrific, mainly after calibration, even right from the store it came quite good.
You may notice the corner flashlight immediately...specially on dark scenes, however nothing to be disturbing.
What I really liked is the immense alternatives to watch ANY kind of video formats from its USB port (mkv, avi-xvid, MPGs..all!!) which make me save some bucks for a media player.
After place the set in my bedroom before placed in the family room, I decide to buy a 46EX500 or EX700 for that place, finding the 55' a little bigger, not too much, but thought about the intensity of the light which might bother my sleeping wife and may save me some bucks.
Thanks all who help in my decision.
After buying the 46EX Sony I will post my impressions.

DOnMich

Sometimes its good just to have a sounding board to kick around ideas.

Enjoy your sets!

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Hello,
Wife just made me sell my Sony KDS 60A2000 as it doesn't fit in our new 12' wide row house. I had it for 4 years and loved the picture. Bittersweet, but now I am in the market for a new TV!

1. Budget: $1,500 - 2,000
2. Seating Distance: ~10 ft
3. Size/Placement Constraints: Wall mount (required), TV center is ~5ft high (not required).
4. Uses and sources: Primary TV, mix of TV and gaming (PS3/360 FPS)
5. Room Lighting: Bright, next to wall of windows (i.e. LCD Matte finish)

Looking at cnet and Consumer Reports, it seems like Sony and Samsung dominate the reviews with a few LGs and the Vizio XVT3SV making a good showing. In store LG didn't wow me and I can't see Vizio as my main TV (I have one I like in my BR right now though).

So, Sony and Samsung are in the lead. Edge lit LED, Full LED, and standard LCDs are all in the running. Are the flashlighting issues with the edge lit TVs still common? I'm not a videophile, but that would probably bother me.

I am just looking for the best picture quality in a bright room. I have the gaming systems, so apps are less important. Though wifi *might* be nice, I'm not sure if I would use it or not. Oh, and I'm not interested in 3D. If it's 3D ready, great, but not a differentiator for me.

Any help is greatly appreciated, I'm overwhelmed by the options out there now.

After more research, I'm rethinking the Vizios. Right now, I have the TVs ranked in the following order (prices are from cnet):
  1. Vizio XVT553SV ($1725-2000)
  2. Samsung LN55C630 ($1350-1600)
  3. LG 55LE5500 ($1650-2800)
  4. Sony KDL-55EX500 (1350-1550)

All the TVs have Consumer Reports ratings over 70, which is "very good". So maybe some more pointed questions might get a better response:
  • Did I miss any good competition in the LCD matte finish 52"+ family?
  • Does anyone have any advice to compare the TVs?
  • I am usually a Sony guy, but was disappointed by their showing, did I miss anything?
  • How many people actually find themselves using the internet apps? (I have an HTPC, but if I got this, I may get rid of it as it is dated)
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What's the deal with Vizio's? Maybe I should stop ignoring them because it's a brand I do not know. Are they "Budget" LCDs or can they stand up to a Sony or Samsung? I really don't know anything about them. I'd like to.
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Budget: BestBuy Credit (apx $1700)
Viewing distance: 7-10"
Uses: Mainly Dishnetwork HD, 720p BluRay Rips (not letting the kids use the BR), BluRay, and a little Xbox360 (Alan Wake and GT5 if I get a PS3).

My Samsung LN46A850 panel could not be replaced, so BB is setting me up with credit to replace my TV. Not sure the exact amount yet, but it will be comparable. If I remember right, the A850 open box was $1699.

Things I didn't like about the A850, flashlights. Oh, there was also some "taring" or blocking during some fast action. Not sure if it's from my dvr722 or the TV itself. I did notice it some on a few Blurays (Transformers for example).

I was looking at:
- Samsung 46C6500 (open box replacement I have on loan right now)
- Samsung UN46C8000 (what I think they should replace it with)
- Sony KDL46HX800 (some good reviews and they have a PS3 deal with it right now)
- Sharp Aquous Quattron (someone suggested, but I think it's out of my price range)

Samsung LN46A850 - Onkyo HT-RC160 - Harmony 880
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1. Budget: Up to ~$1500
2. Seating distance: 12'
3. Size/placement limitations: None
4. Uses and sources: HDTV Cable, DVD and Blu-ray.
5. Room lighting: wall of windows along one side of the room

I was thinking a Sony 46EX500 or 55EX500? It isn't clear to me that the pluses outweigh the minuses for picture quality of an edge lit LED set (EX600/EX710/NX700)? Our price target is a little bit soft if it would make a big difference in picture quality.

It will not make a big difference in PQ....only incremental or marginal.

The Vizio XVT553SV or XVT473SV should be considered as well...at that size and price point.

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I've been here a couple of times for help, and I've received good help, but I'm back again. I've been busy recently and haven't gotten around to purchasing a tv.

With that said, I've decided that the Sony KDL-40HX701 is the best LCD for my budget, room setup, etc. But, I never really considered plasmas that much. I know this is the LCD forum, and I decided on the Sony from the info I got here, but I would like to know if anyone has some insight into the comparison between this Sony, and a Panasonic TC-P42S2.

As far as PQ goes, its basically more of a Plasma vs LCD that would be the differences. Those differences are much larger than any particular model LCD and plasma. You should first choose between Plasma and LCD, then decide on the model.

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First time TV buyer - still unsure of my options for a PC friendly "monitor"/TV

Looking for a $900 or less / 40-46" TV best for which can visually handle well the following :

1. playback of digital media ( encoded in xvid / divx / mp4 / wmv / mkv / etc resolution formats) (from network NAS router / external USB hdd / desktop PC) (audio- mp3 + flac)

1a. netflix ready tv

2. PC related - full web browsing + ms office (word / powerpoint)

3. TV with built in ethernet / USB ports for future media connectivity

4. option for WiFi

5. ability to play 1080p 24 fps blu-ray

(I mainly plan on hooking up a computer to this unit) / don't subscribe to cable tv. Thanks guys.

Just my personal opinion, but I think that set top boxes like the Boxee or a small Nettop HTPC would better serve you than integrated into the set features.

It depends a bit, but this is a solid generalization.

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Lookin to buy the parents their first HDTV. Their cabinet can fit no larger than a 42" so I was looking for a 42" 1080P LCD (or LED) for no more than $650. 120hz is preferred unless a 60hz model has been established free of ghosting. If a 40" model is substantially better or cheaper than the 42" counterpart then I guess that would be good as well but 42" is preferred. Unfortunately it seems like 40" is king in LCD market.

I have come across:

LG 42LD450 - cheap but only 60hz
LG 42LD520 - top end of budget
TC-L42U22 - cheap but only 60hz

They really don't need any crazy bells and whistles. Just good picture and sound. What are some quality options?

Sometimes those extra 2" are nice.

I like the LGs you have there. Tough budget to work with. Only other thing I can think of is a Vizio E420VL. Look at that one too, but I favor slightly th LGs.

If you go 40"

Samsung 40C630 120Hz 40C530 60Hz
Sony 40EX500 120 Hz 40EX400 60Hz

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Hi,

Looking for a 26-32in Lcd mostly for PS3 gaming and blu-ray. Hopefully less than/or close to $400.00. So, lag is probably an issue.

Thanks for any suggestions.

LG 32LD450
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Its SD, bluray movies and ps3.

I'm going to get HD receiver but SD would be most of the time for sure.

Seating distance is 9 - 12 feet.

You'd suggest to stay with 55"?

SD is going to look pretty bad depending on the source at either 55 or 60 inches. Although a DVD player with good processing can look pretty good, depending on the DVD mastering.

I would just save a few bucks and get the 55".

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1. Budget: Up to ~$1500
2. Seating distance: 12'
3. Size/placement limitations: None
4. Uses and sources: HDTV Cable, DVD and Blu-ray.
5. Room lighting: wall of windows along one side of the room

I was thinking a Sony 46EX500 or 55EX500? It isn't clear to me that the pluses outweigh the minuses for picture quality of an edge lit LED set (EX600/EX710/NX700)? Our price target is a little bit soft if it would make a big difference in picture quality.

The marginal edge in PQ will be killed by those wall of windows during daylight hours.

Get the cheapers set.

But look into the Vizio 55" and 47" XVT**3SV series, which hits your pricepoint.

Vizio VP322 Plasma / Vizio GV42LF LCD / Denon 2200 Silicon Image DVD / Panasonic S97 Faroudja Genesis DVD / Oppo 970HD Mediatek DVD / Oppo 983H Anchor Bay DVD / Panasonic LX-600 Laserdisc / Aiwa MX100 Multi-region VCR / JVC S7600 S-VHS / PS2 / Sega Genesis / Nintendo SNES / Roku 2 XS & HD-XR / Realistic STA-90 Reciever / Realistic Minimus 7 / Antennacraft G1483 Hoverman / Belden 7915A RG6 / Channel Master 7777 Titan 2 UHF/VHF / Panasonic AX-200u / Optoma Graywolf 92" / Draper Luma 92"
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I need a new tv for the bedroom, it will be replacing an old pc monitor that is about dead. It will be mounted in some built in shelving, so it can be only 16.125 in tall. Mostly for console gaming and bd movies, so it 1080p is a must, along with low lag and good response time. I would like it to have a good tuner so i can ditch this buggy pos external box. Sound quality isn't very important. I'm using a 2.1 pc sound system, and am happy with it.

1. $300 or so, not really important
2. 2-4 ft most of the time, some 6-10 ft off angle
3. 26-27", 16 1/8" height limit, 32" will not fit
4. ps3, xb360, ota tv,
5. dim lighting

These are what I've been looking at, but I haven't been able to find any good reviews on any of them. Right now I'm leaning toward the m261vp for the VIA stuff, but if one of the others is significantly better for gaming and movies I'll get it instead.

vizio M261VP
vizio M260VP
scepter X270BV-FHD
vewsonic VT2730
lg M2780D-PU

The Vizios.

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Hello,
Wife just made me sell my Sony KDS 60A2000 as it doesn't fit in our new 12' wide row house. I had it for 4 years and loved the picture. Bittersweet, but now I am in the market for a new TV!

1. Budget: $1,500 - 2,000
2. Seating Distance: ~10 ft
3. Size/Placement Constraints: Wall mount (required), TV center is ~5ft high (not required).
4. Uses and sources: Primary TV, mix of TV and gaming (PS3/360 FPS)
5. Room Lighting: Bright, next to wall of windows (i.e. LCD Matte finish)

Looking at cnet and Consumer Reports, it seems like Sony and Samsung dominate the reviews with a few LGs and the Vizio XVT3SV making a good showing. In store LG didn't wow me and I can't see Vizio as my main TV (I have one I like in my BR right now though).

So, Sony and Samsung are in the lead. Edge lit LED, Full LED, and standard LCDs are all in the running. Are the flashlighting issues with the edge lit TVs still common? I'm not a videophile, but that would probably bother me.

I am just looking for the best picture quality in a bright room. I have the gaming systems, so apps are less important. Though wifi *might* be nice, I'm not sure if I would use it or not. Oh, and I'm not interested in 3D. If it's 3D ready, great, but not a differentiator for me.

Any help is greatly appreciated, I'm overwhelmed by the options out there now.

If Aesthetics are important then you may consider an Edge Lit LED set, which are extra thin and usually given high styling elements.

However is PQ is your main concern and would like to save a few bucks in the process then you should check out the Sony 55EX500.

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I'm about to pull the trigger on LG 42LD520 for $606. Any other similar priced 1080P 120hz 42" LCD I should consider before doing so?

Vizio E420VL can be found at Walmart.

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After more research, I'm rethinking the Vizios. Right now, I have the TVs ranked in the following order (prices are from cnet):
  1. Vizio XVT553SV ($1725-2000)
  2. Samsung LN55C630 ($1350-1600)
  3. LG 55LE5500 ($1650-2800)
  4. Sony KDL-55EX500 (1350-1550)

All the TVs have Consumer Reports ratings over 70, which is "very good". So maybe some more pointed questions might get a better response:
  • Did I miss any good competition in the LCD matte finish 52"+ family?
  • Does anyone have any advice to compare the TVs?
  • I am usually a Sony guy, but was disappointed by their showing, did I miss anything?
  • How many people actually find themselves using the internet apps? (I have an HTPC, but if I got this, I may get rid of it as it is dated)

1. Not really.
2. That would take too long. Best thing to do is find a place that you can access the remotes, so that you can go into the menu systems and tweek the picture controls. This will give you a better visual comparison. If you can look up some recommended Settings in these forums for the sets, write them down and take them with you. Its not perfect but it improves trying to analyze TVs in the showroom. My local Sears has working remotes available.
3.The Samsung has better PQ than the Sony. So does the Vizio, along with more tech. The Vizio can be found for $1500 regularly. But the improved PQ is only marginal, and the Sony is better as a PC Monitor and Gaming Platform.
4.Internet Apps and Media Players are the future and are hot now. However, I think that using HTPCs or Set Top Boxes is a better approach at this time. I use a Roku right now just to stream and use it all the time...but am really keen on a full Nettop HTPC or a Boxee Box.

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What's the deal with Vizio's? Maybe I should stop ignoring them because it's a brand I do not know. Are they "Budget" LCDs or can they stand up to a Sony or Samsung? I really don't know anything about them. I'd like to.

Vizio is an upstart company that has been a top 3 seller of LCD (and Plasma) HDTVs for the last 5 years. HQed in California, it was started by William Wang, whose previous Computer Monitor venture was very successful....Mag Innovision. He teamed up with some of his old computer monitor contacts to produce quality value sets for the North American market. They have a good reputation for warranty and customer service. Additionally, they have provided great PQ in a value set...which is why they have sold so many (early distribution through Costco and then Walmart helped.)

The last 3 years have seen them successfully competing in PQ with the top dogs with their Top of the Line SV XVT series, while maintaining price value at that level.

Great company.

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1. Budget: Up to ~$1400
2. Seating distance: 8'-10'
3. Size/placement limitations: 46"/47"
4. Uses and sources: PS3, Blu-ray, HDTV
5. Room lighting: Mostly dark. Two windows on the side that have a tree in front of them but I never open them.

I'm thinking between these sets:

Sony 46EX500
LG 47LD550
LG 47LE8500

I've seen all of them in person. I'm not sure if I'm too keen on the glass screen of the 8500, so that's why I'm hesitant about LED TVs. That and the non-uniform dimming over time that people are reporting.

Any suggestions out of these three or even one I haven't listed? Don't want 3D and lower input lag is important.
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Budget: BestBuy Credit (apx $1700)
Viewing distance: 7-10"
Uses: Mainly Dishnetwork HD, 720p BluRay Rips (not letting the kids use the BR), BluRay, and a little Xbox360 (Alan Wake and GT5 if I get a PS3).

My Samsung LN46A850 panel could not be replaced, so BB is setting me up with credit to replace my TV. Not sure the exact amount yet, but it will be comparable. If I remember right, the A850 open box was $1699.

Things I didn't like about the A850, flashlights. Oh, there was also some "taring" or blocking during some fast action. Not sure if it's from my dvr722 or the TV itself. I did notice it some on a few Blurays (Transformers for example).

I was looking at:
- Samsung 46C6500 (open box replacement I have on loan right now)
- Samsung UN46C8000 (what I think they should replace it with)
- Sony KDL46HX800 (some good reviews and they have a PS3 deal with it right now)
- Sharp Aquous Quattron (someone suggested, but I think it's out of my price range)

Stay away from the Quattron.

Dont be surprised if you dont get the C8000, which has flashlighting problems anyways.

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1. Budget: Up to ~$1400
2. Seating distance: 8'-10'
3. Size/placement limitations: 46"/47"
4. Uses and sources: PS3, Blu-ray, HDTV
5. Room lighting: Mostly dark. Two windows on the side that have a tree in front of them but I never open them.

I'm thinking between these sets:

Sony 46EX500
LG 47LD550
LG 47LE8500

I've seen all of them in person. I'm not sure if I'm too keen on the glass screen of the 8500, so that's why I'm hesitant about LED TVs. That and the non-uniform dimming over time that people are reporting.

Any suggestions out of these three or even one I haven't listed? Don't want 3D and lower input lag is important.

I would ditch the glossy screened 8500 from your list.

The LG 47LD450 might be better for you if lag is a concern.

I favor the EX500 of those 3 for your purposes.

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Sometimes those extra 2" are nice.

I like the LGs you have there. Tough budget to work with. Only other thing I can think of is a Vizio E420VL. Look at that one too, but I favor slightly th LGs.

If you go 40"

Samsung 40C630 120Hz 40C530 60Hz
Sony 40EX500 120 Hz 40EX400 60Hz

I'm looking at around a $70 difference between the LG 42LD520 and the Vizio E420VL. TV will be used mainly for prime-time drama shows and sports. The TV will be watched from about 12 feet away. Most likely there will be no external audio system used so built in audio is a factor. Does anyone think the LG is worth the extra $70? Is the LG more reliable or of better quality?
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Hi I'm looking for a tv in the 40-42 inch range. Money isn't an issue so if an expensive tv is way better then I'll look at it.
Basically I'm looking for LED tv that comes with internet apps and has either both wifi and ethernet(or just ethernet) and is dlna compatible. This tv will mainly be used for gaming on xbox360 and watching movies via netflix. Currently I've been checking out the 42LE8500 from LG and the XVT423SV from Visio. If there are any other brands or if anyone knows about these 2 please let me know. Also if the 8500 ends up being the best any ideas where to find it in canada?

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Enjoy your sets!

Well..finally I got my two set. The second one was the Sony 46EX500.
I got amazed with the PQ after some tweaking from several post of SerialMike and other friends...
In the store I couldn't see any great difference from the EX500 and EX700 (LED)
Being a picky video fan I could see a slight better luminance of the EX700 over the EX500. Both had great quality, nice skin tone...
however both suffered of the opposite sickness of the Samsung. If my Sammy looks to tend to the red spectrum, the Sonys go the opposite a slight greenish tint quite difficult to handle even tweaking hue and White Balance.
I know the bias behind comparing to different set size..but this was my impressions.
The Samsung 6300 is incredibly punchy, brilliant, and colorful. However the flashlights in the corner are visible even not disturbing.
The EX500 is less contrasty...a little pale but for that price can be compared with the EX700 which cost the double at least here in Dominican Rep.
Some people argue that even it seems to have better PQ than the EX700...I can't confirm that since I haven't had enough time to compare them.
Both Sony and Samsung are terrific sets. Something bummer is that EX500 (by far...I just have 4 hours with her) it can NOT play AVI, XVID nur MKV, but MPGs from a USB pendrive nur detect my WD external drive as Samsung did flawlessly reading whatever extension video file I had inside. It was strange since I think I watched a youtube video about EX500 reading XVID.

Anyway I truly recommend these two set knowing that you are not buying a full array LCD, but a non-LED LCD and an Edge-lit ones with its own strength and weakness

Thanks to those who help me to decide..

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