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okay LG 47ld520. GOt it. Going one, going twice...SOLD!!!. Whew that was easy
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I'm currently trying to research my CCFL LCD options. I'm interested in the Sony 55EX500 and the Samsung LN55C630. It would be used for 75% gaming and the other 25% split up between blu-rays and SDTV watching. Would be in a dimly lit room with a window directly opposing the TV. Both TV's are around the same price so price is not a concern.

I heard that the Samsung has a glossy screen opposed to the matte in the Sony, is that correct? Also I know the Sony has a S-PVA panel which is suppose to be pretty good....what kind of panel does the Samsung use? Do I have to worry about a panel lottery with the Samsung. Is there any other major difference between the two sets? Which one would you choose and why? Thanks
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We're looking to replace our 7 year old Sony Plasma, which is currently plagued with burned-in blue pixels.

1. Budget
~$3000

2. Seating distance
Approximately 10 feet, with around 12 feet at the farthest point.

3. Size/placement limitations
~65" which should fit in the corner with our J-shaped couch, but we also enjoy watching TV while at the dinner table, which is behind the tip of the J couch. Let's say the TV is in a square room, and the TV is placed at a ~60 degree angle in the top left corner. We need to be able to see the TV from around the bottom left corner.

4. Uses and sources
HD receiver for cable since I'd like to watch HD sports. I'd also like to hook up a HTPC or a Roku/AppleTV/BoxeeBox. I do some casual gaming on the Wii and 360, but I'd like little input lag. I don't care for 3D.

5. Room lighting
Rather dimly lit room with lighting mainly from behind the couch, but we have a window behind the location of the television, and it becomes a problem on sunny mornings.
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EscapeVelocity, just wanted to thank you for referring the Panasonic TC-L37U22. Haven't really played with it yet, as I only hooked it up to the HD DVR last night, but the picture and sound look promising so far! I will hook up the XBOX 360 tonight.
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I'm currently trying to research my CCFL LCD options. I'm interested in the Sony 55EX500 and the Samsung LN55C630. It would be used for 75% gaming and the other 25% split up between blu-rays and SDTV watching. Would be in a dimly lit room with a window directly opposing the TV. Both TV's are around the same price so price is not a concern.

I heard that the Samsung has a glossy screen opposed to the matte in the Sony, is that correct? Also I know the Sony has a S-PVA panel which is suppose to be pretty good....what kind of panel does the Samsung use? Do I have to worry about a panel lottery with the Samsung. Is there any other major difference between the two sets? Which one would you choose and why? Thanks

I can speak for the 55EX500, as I just purchased one after exhaustive research. It is a really nice television at an awesome price point. The 55 is matte and should have the S-PVA (I haven't physically confirmed on my set, but haven't read otherwise on the EX500 board). I don't game on mine, but I read about 80 pages on the EX500 forum and there weren't many complaints regarding lag. Blu-Ray is phenomenal on this set. However, I watch mostly high-def content, so I can't really comment on SD watching. I highly suggest perusing that board if you haven't already, as there are some very knowledgeable posters.
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Please help! I'm currently looking to get a new set. Had a 61" Samsung hla750 dlp set a sold a few months ago. I am looking for a 55" set that is in a pretty light controlled room. Budget is $1300-$1700. It will be used mostly for gaming and HD sports. After reading all the threads I was leaning towards a Sony 55" ex500 or ex701. Went to best buy and liked the glossier screen and amp of the samsungs but from what I read it sounds like they have a lot of input lag and a lot of issues. My last 2 Samsung dlps both had some problems ( 61" had the red led go out after 13 mo., 50" has a shadow down left side ). Need some advice from some other points of view. Thanks!

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hi folks,

I am upgrading from a 3 year old samsung lcd 40" 60hz that i paid about 1200 for. The two models I am considering due to my finances are the LED by LG model 47LE5400 or the Samsung LCD LN46C670

Please give me the pros and cons.

I have heard that LED is brighter then LCD but samsung is a good name so i don't know

If it matters I can get the LG for 100 cheaper then the samsung

Thanks for all your input, your knowledge is appreciated
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EscapeVelocity, just wanted to thank you for referring the Panasonic TC-L37U22. Haven't really played with it yet, as I only hooked it up to the HD DVR last night, but the picture and sound look promising so far! I will hook up the XBOX 360 tonight.

Hey, thanks for the update.

Let us know how the XBox 360 gaming goes.

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Please help! I'm currently looking to get a new set. Had a 61" Samsung hla750 dlp set a sold a few months ago. I am looking for a 55" set that is in a pretty light controlled room. Budget is $1300-$1700. It will be used mostly for gaming and HD sports. After reading all the threads I was leaning towards a Sony 55" ex500 or ex701. Went to best buy and liked the glossier screen and amp of the samsungs but from what I read it sounds like they have a lot of input lag and a lot of issues. My last 2 Samsung dlps both had some problems ( 61" had the red led go out after 13 mo., 50" has a shadow down left side ). Need some advice from some other points of view. Thanks!

That Sony EX500 is a great all rounder. The 60" version was available today at Fry's for eleven hundred dollars today.

Anyways, good luck!

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I'm currently trying to research my CCFL LCD options. I'm interested in the Sony 55EX500 and the Samsung LN55C630. It would be used for 75% gaming and the other 25% split up between blu-rays and SDTV watching. Would be in a dimly lit room with a window directly opposing the TV. Both TV's are around the same price so price is not a concern.

I heard that the Samsung has a glossy screen opposed to the matte in the Sony, is that correct? Also I know the Sony has a S-PVA panel which is suppose to be pretty good....what kind of panel does the Samsung use? Do I have to worry about a panel lottery with the Samsung. Is there any other major difference between the two sets? Which one would you choose and why? Thanks

I recomend the Sony for your heavy gaming purposes. Both have similar top notch PQ.

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I heard that the Samsung has a glossy screen opposed to the matte in the Sony, is that correct?

Yes.

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Also I know the Sony has a S-PVA panel which is suppose to be pretty good....what kind of panel does the Samsung use?

Also an S-PVA panel.

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Do I have to worry about a panel lottery with the Samsung.

Neither set suffers from the panel lottery at that size.

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Is there any other major difference between the two sets?

Yes. Samsung has backlit remote, Sony doesnt.
Sony has better audio quality.
Samsung has a nicer menu system, both aesthetically and user friendally....plus it allows for more advanced tools for tweaking the picture...but Sony's is functional.
Samsung has better functionality of the USB port for example DLNA compliance, but the Sony is good.
Samsungs side inputs are on the Right facing the screen. Sony's are on the Left.
Sony has less input lag.

Both will do well with SD upscaling and deinterlacing. They have very good video processing.

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That Sony EX500 is a great all rounder. The 60" version was available today at Fry's for eleven hundred dollars today.

Anyways, good luck!

Thanks for the input. Wish there was a fry's around ( I'm in Ohio ).

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okay LG 47ld520. GOt it. Going one, going twice...SOLD!!!. Whew that was easy

With your gaming, that would probably be the better set of the 2 for you. The LG has a nice S-IPS panel.

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We're looking to replace our 7 year old Sony Plasma, which is currently plagued with burned-in blue pixels.

1. Budget
~$3000

2. Seating distance
Approximately 10 feet, with around 12 feet at the farthest point.

3. Size/placement limitations
~65" which should fit in the corner with our J-shaped couch, but we also enjoy watching TV while at the dinner table, which is behind the tip of the J couch. Let's say the TV is in a square room, and the TV is placed at a ~60 degree angle in the top left corner. We need to be able to see the TV from around the bottom left corner.

4. Uses and sources
HD receiver for cable since I'd like to watch HD sports. I'd also like to hook up a HTPC or a Roku/AppleTV/BoxeeBox. I do some casual gaming on the Wii and 360, but I'd like little input lag. I don't care for 3D.

5. Room lighting
Rather dimly lit room with lighting mainly from behind the couch, but we have a window behind the location of the television, and it becomes a problem on sunny mornings.

2 60"ers for you.

Sony 60EX500
Sharp 60E88UN

Vizio VP322 Plasma / Vizio GV42LF LCD / Denon 2200 Silicon Image DVD / Panasonic S97 Faroudja Genesis DVD / Oppo 970HD Mediatek DVD / Oppo 983H Anchor Bay DVD / Panasonic LX-600 Laserdisc / Aiwa MX100 Multi-region VCR / JVC S7600 S-VHS / PS2 / Sega Genesis / Nintendo SNES / Roku 2 XS & HD-XR / Realistic STA-90 Reciever / Realistic Minimus 7 / Antennacraft G1483 Hoverman / Belden 7915A RG6 / Channel Master 7777 Titan 2 UHF/VHF / Panasonic AX-200u / Optoma Graywolf 92" / Draper Luma 92"
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I recomend the Sony for your heavy gaming purposes. Both have similar top notch PQ.
Yes. Samsung has backlit remote, Sony doesnt.
Sony has better audio quality.
Samsung has a nicer menu system, both aesthetically and user friendally....plus it allows for more advanced tools for tweaking the picture...but Sony's is functional.
Samsung has better functionality of the USB port for example DLNA compliance, but the Sony is good.
Samsungs side inputs are on the Right facing the screen. Sony's are on the Left.
Sony has less input lag.

Both will do well with SD upscaling and deinterlacing. They have very good video processing.



Thanks alot happyhour and EscapeVelocity! Unless I find a crazy deal on the Samsung I think i'll go with the Sony. Also is there a way for me to get into a LG-IPS panel at my price point for around 50-55" with a CCFL backlight? I think I read before that the IPS panel has better color accuarcy and viewing angels but the PVA has better blacks and shadow detail...is that right? Is the IPS panel that much better...or are those the two main differences? Thanks again.
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What is your pricepoint.

Very nice S-IPS sets in the Vizio XVT553SV and XVT554SV.

Also LG 55LD520.

Not necessarily on the shadow detail, but yes that is right. Excepting the Vizios above will have better blacks than the Sony EX500 and Samsung C630, but only on some scenes, because of the local dimming. The vast majority of times you couldnt tell the difference.

The LG 55LD520 will have noticeably lighter blacks than all of these others. But if you didnt have them all side by side, you wouldnt probably miss them all that much....it gets pretty dark and has plenty of contrast.

Please understand that a lot of these differences are marginal, although to the uninitiated, listening to people on this site, would make them sound like more than they are.

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1. Budget $2000 Would like to be under
2. Seating distance: 4-10 feet
3. Size/placement limitations 40"-42" Will sit on a stand. Is a 46 inch too big?
4. Uses and sources Watch Hd films(blu ray), sports in Hd, and a little gaming. Ps3, Comcast cable, and a Dune Hd media player.
5. Room lighting 8x15 room. One light in ceiling. Window is to the left of tv but has a sun blocking shade.

Quick notes. When I'm lying down the tv is about 4 feet away. When I'm on my computer its about 10 feet away.

What options would you suggest?
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I'd like to get a couple of quick recommendations. I've whittled my choices down to two TV's and I'm not sure which way to go. The use of the TV will honestly vary widely between normal HD broadcast over DirecTV, some gaming on both the PS3 and 360, and blu-rays. I'm looking to upgrade over my 3.5 year old Vizio 42" Gallevia, which is just your standard 60hz LCD tv from yesteryear. It's been great, but I want to move into the world of LED, blacker blacks, and 3D.

The first TV I'm considering is the Vizio XVT3D474SV. I really like what I hear about the picture quality and all the features it has. I understand the 3D isn't the best, but I'm willing to sacrifice a little bit in that department since I see 3D as an added plus, not what will define the TV for me. I checked out this model at Sam's today and I really love the blacks and the picture overall. Plus it's on sale for the next few days, which is always nice.

The second TV I'm considering is the Samsung UN46C7000WF. At the current moment, the Samsung is essentially $200 more than the Vizio, but does come with a free blu-ray player (which I don't need), 2 glasses and a set of Shrek movies. The Vizio comes with nothing extra, it's just the TV. I was more impressed with the picture on the Vizio at Sam's than I was with the Samsung at Best Buy, but it's obviously hard to compare with different sources at completely different stores.

Even still, I'm posting this on a Saturday afternoon. While the Vizio sale will still be going for a few days, the Best Buy sales may change tomorrow.

If you had to pick between the two, which would you pick and why? Thanks a lot for any suggestions.
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The Vizio XVT3D554SV, without question.

Full Array LED with Local Dimming, S-IPS panel with wide viewing angles and accurate colors, Passive 3D (the future, glasses are a lot cheaper too), High Gloss Screen gives added sharpness and plasma like quality to image.

Plus you can take advantage of Costco's added warranty.

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Based off recent price drops, I've narrowed my search to these two. The Sony is about $50 more

LG 55LE5500
Sony 55EX710

Of concern are:
Input lag for gaming?
Panel lottery?
Glare?
Flashlighting?
Looks like Sony offer more internet apps, can either use third party adapters for WiFi?

Looking forward to get some input. Thanks
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Help!

Replacing: 46" 1080P 60Hz Westinghouse LCD from early 2007.

What I didn't like about the Westinghouse:
1) Too small
2) Bad blacks
3) 60Hz? (Maybe, I've never seen true 24p on a 120Hz TV yet)

I don't care about 3D.

My usage is about 45% movies/tv/internet from my HTPC, 45% PlayStation 3 (games and blu ray), 10% OTA HDTV.

I will pretty much exclusively be using one HDMI input as my receiver does all the audio/video switching and only has 1 HDMI cable going to the TV.

I think a 55" or a 60" would be nice. Ideally I would spend about $1,000 but really I can afford anything I just like bang for the buck.

Is there any reason to wait for the new 2011's to come out? Am I better off buying a 2010 for the money? Are LEDs worth it with the new 2011 lineup? I like the size/weight/style of LEDs but unless you get the super expensive local dimming ones I hear the picture quality is worse.

I just don't know where to begin
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Regarding the poster settling on the LG 47LD520, you should check CNET for fairly authoritative reviews. The review for this set said it had significant shortcomings. You might want to get a few more opinions, or maybe better, check out the CNET site yourself for recommendations.

As the poster above has noted, in LCD sets, the XVT3 (or XVT4 for 3d) series from Vizio (the ones with full LED backlight) seem to be on most "highly recommended" lists I've seen.
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Looking for a new TV, key requirement is image quality in 2D. Do not care for 3D.

budget - as needed
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viewing distance - 8.5 feet
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The Vizio XVT3D554SV, without question.

Full Array LED with Local Dimming, S-IPS panel with wide viewing angles and accurate colors, Passive 3D (the future, glasses are a lot cheaper too), High Gloss Screen gives added sharpness and plasma like quality to image.

Plus you can take advantage of Costco's added warranty.

The XVT3D4 series does not have passive 3D - that's coming in the newer Vizio models coming out later this year (they were shown at the big annual electronics show in Vegas a few weeks ago).

The XVT3D4 series uses battery operated active glasses. That said, check out the just-out CNET review of one of the new Vizio passive 3D sets. Apparently it's still inferior to active 3D. There definitely will be lots of changes/improvements to 3D in the coming years, and passive will get better, but it looks like it's not there yet.
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Looking at 2 TVs right now to replace our old rear projection behemoth:

Samsung UN46C6900
Vizio XVT473SV

Vizio seems to have more features for a lower price, but the Samsung just looks so nice to me (both in picture and the TV itself). We were also drawn to the Vizio being back-lite as opposed to edge on the Samsung, though from reading, the 'precision dimming' on the 6900 is close to the 'local dimming' of the 473 (if my understanding is correct?).
The 6900 is the upper limit of my budget, but not out of it. Viewing distance will be a little closer than desired (small room) with a window taking up a large portion of one of the walls.

I keep going back and forth on the 2 as both have pros and cons, and relatively few (if any) bad reviews.
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The XVT3D4 series does not have passive 3D - that's coming in the newer Vizio models coming out later this year (they were shown at the big annual electronics show in Vegas a few weeks ago).

The XVT3D4 series uses battery operated active glasses. That said, check out the just-out CNET review of one of the new Vizio passive 3D sets. Apparently it's still inferior to active 3D. There definitely will be lots of changes/improvements to 3D in the coming years, and passive will get better, but it looks like it's not there yet.

Oh, I was mistaken about the 3D.

I have about zero interest in 3D, and really am cheering for its demise. So Im not the most well informed on that front.

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Looking at 2 TVs right now to replace our old rear projection behemoth:

Samsung UN46C6900
Vizio XVT473SV

Vizio seems to have more features for a lower price, but the Samsung just looks so nice to me (both in picture and the TV itself). We were also drawn to the Vizio being back-lite as opposed to edge on the Samsung, though from reading, the 'precision dimming' on the 6900 is close to the 'local dimming' of the 473 (if my understanding is correct?).
The 6900 is the upper limit of my budget, but not out of it. Viewing distance will be a little closer than desired (small room) with a window taking up a large portion of one of the walls.

I keep going back and forth on the 2 as both have pros and cons, and relatively few (if any) bad reviews.

2 good choices.

You should be looking at secondary factors apart from PQ, that matter to you. Audio Quality, 3D ability and performance, The Internet Apps System, WiFi integrated or Dongle Style, Menu System Aesthetics, Do you like the Remote, is it backlit? DNLA support, functionality of the USB port. That type of thing.

Returnability if you get a lemon. Warranty.

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I'd like to get a couple of quick recommendations. I've whittled my choices down to two TV's and I'm not sure which way to go. The use of the TV will honestly vary widely between normal HD broadcast over DirecTV, some gaming on both the PS3 and 360, and blu-rays. I'm looking to upgrade over my 3.5 year old Vizio 42" Gallevia, which is just your standard 60hz LCD tv from yesteryear. It's been great, but I want to move into the world of LED, blacker blacks, and 3D.

The first TV I'm considering is the Vizio XVT3D474SV. I really like what I hear about the picture quality and all the features it has. I understand the 3D isn't the best, but I'm willing to sacrifice a little bit in that department since I see 3D as an added plus, not what will define the TV for me. I checked out this model at Sam's today and I really love the blacks and the picture overall. Plus it's on sale for the next few days, which is always nice.

The second TV I'm considering is the Samsung UN46C7000WF. At the current moment, the Samsung is essentially $200 more than the Vizio, but does come with a free blu-ray player (which I don't need), 2 glasses and a set of Shrek movies. The Vizio comes with nothing extra, it's just the TV. I was more impressed with the picture on the Vizio at Sam's than I was with the Samsung at Best Buy, but it's obviously hard to compare with different sources at completely different stores.

Even still, I'm posting this on a Saturday afternoon. While the Vizio sale will still be going for a few days, the Best Buy sales may change tomorrow.

If you had to pick between the two, which would you pick and why? Thanks a lot for any suggestions.

Here's what I'm doing later today: (1) Returning my Vizio XVT473 to Wallyworld, where I bought it Dec. 24; and (2) heading to Sam's to pick up a Vizio XVT474 3d set, which is currently on sale at a price that's only $100 more than the XVT473 I bought in Dec.

There's lots of sets that would be fine. I looked into Sammy 7000 (and even 8000) plasma sets currently on sale (new models will be out in a few months), and the LG 50PX950 plasma, also on sale. These would have better 3d, but that's not a major consideration right now. For only $100 more, I'll get the newer Vizio to get 3d, but without a doubt there will be significant changes in 3d sets in the next few years, so it's not worth jumping through hoops to get one version or another right now.

These sets are all on the CNET "best" list. In addition, the Vizio XVT3 series was one of the two CNET "Editors Choice" selections for 2010 (with a top-of-the-line Panasonic), which is a big deal.

I don't have the time or inclination to spend days trying to compare all these sets. There's no way to do a one-on-one with them, anyway, as no one dealer here carries more than the two Sammys together. Also, I'm don't want to fool with plasma "break-in" procedures for 150 hours, and my wife won't tell any difference between the sets, anyway.

Another consideration is that a lot of the image quality comes from the quality of the source material, not just the TV. For example, one thing I noticed is that the sharpness of the Vizio is such that I can see when one of the cameras on a TV show (like an evening talk show) is slightly out of focus. Like is true with audio equipment, the quality of the output is only as good as your weakest component.

Anyway, I figure I've done enough research already, and am going to get the Vizio while the sale is on, and go on down the road. It'll be great, and I already know it's a huge positive change from the Sony 32" CRT set we had before.
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Here's what I'm doing later today: (1) Returning my Vizio XVT473 to Wallyworld, where I bought it Dec. 24; and (2) heading to Sam's to pick up a Vizio XVT474 3d set, which is currently on sale at a price that's only $100 more than the XVT473 I bought in Dec.

There's lots of sets that would be fine. I looked into Sammy 7000 (and even 8000) plasma sets currently on sale (new models will be out in a few months), and the LG 50PX950 plasma, also on sale. These would have better 3d, but that's not a major consideration right now. For only $100 more, I'll get the newer Vizio to get 3d, but without a doubt there will be significant changes in 3d sets in the next few years, so it's not worth jumping through hoops to get one version or another right now.

These sets are all on the CNET "best" list. In addition, the Vizio XVT3 series was one of the two CNET "Editors Choice" selections for 2010 (with a top-of-the-line Panasonic), which is a big deal.

I don't have the time or inclination to spend days trying to compare all these sets. There's no way to do a one-on-one with them, anyway, as no one dealer here carries more than the two Sammys together. Also, I'm don't want to fool with plasma "break-in" procedures for 150 hours, and my wife won't tell any difference between the sets, anyway.

Another consideration is that a lot of the image quality comes from the quality of the source material, not just the TV. For example, one thing I noticed is that the sharpness of the Vizio is such that I can see when one of the cameras on a TV show (like an evening talk show) is slightly out of focus. Like is true with audio equipment, the quality of the output is only as good as your weakest component.

Anyway, I figure I've done enough research already, and am going to get the Vizio while the sale is on, and go on down the road. It'll be great, and I already know it's a huge positive change from the Sony 32" CRT set we had before.

Thanks a lot for the response. I was already heavily leaning towards the Vizio, but a couple of nods from the random internet masses make me feel better about it.
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2 good choices.

You should be looking at secondary factors apart from PQ, that matter to you. Audio Quality, 3D ability and performance, The Internet Apps System, WiFi integrated or Dongle Style, Menu System Aesthetics, Do you like the Remote, is it backlit? DNLA support, functionality of the USB port. That type of thing.

Returnability if you get a lemon. Warranty.

Yah, I don't care about 3-D right now, it's neat and I'd take it if it came in the set I want, but not looking specifically for it. I'm in a similar vein for the apps/internet. Best Buy is running a special where you get a free dongle with the Samsung, and the Vizio comes with wifi built-in so different means, but the end is the same more or less.

Probably the biggest thing right now is we don't have HD cable service (just normal digital). So the one that looks best for watching SD tv is also a big factor. I've seen both with HD content and they look fine.

I'm leaning towards the Samsung, it's just "sexier" to me, I just keep coming back to the Vizio due to all the features you get for a cheaper price.
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