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I was one of the two people. I went and saw the demo again at another BB yesterday and I left impressed. The TV is capable of popout effects and the normal depth it adds looks awesome. The first time I saw it at the other BB they must have had the settings messed up or something.

I liked it so much that I decided to go ahead and pull the trigger. I found a deal online that included free shipping and no tax. Ended up getting the tv for $2500 and I am selling my old tv 52a650 to a family member for $1000. So I am only paying $1500 to upgrade to the new TV. I am really happy with the whole situation. Should get the tv on Friday. I have already ordered the bluray player, 1.4 cable and I am going to order the starter kit soon. There is no way my local HHGREGG or BB could have beat this deal even with the free glasses, especially since my sales tax is 9.5%.




Haha yes I remember you now! It's sad how many BB across the nation have their setup wrong but they get it right after someone notify them about it!



Yes, that's a perfect deal you got there!! You really cannot go wrong with C7000 with it's 2D and 3D viewing just spectacular picture and future proof product!
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Man after reading all these posts I cannot wait to get the 8000 model, any one have a date if it's release?
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Haha yes I remember you now! It's sad how many BB across the nation have their setup wrong but they get it right after someone notify them about it!



When I stopped by my local BB I sat down and put the glasses on and was like "what I don't see any 3D" then I checked the glasses and sure enough they were not powered on. It is pretty cool and I plan on picking the 55C8000 when it comes out.

I did notice that when leaning your head one way or the other the 3D effect diminishes and way on it's side the screen gets pretty dark although I don't think the darkening portion will effect almost anyone as its a pretty big lean you would need to have and even if you watch while laying down you naturally adjust your head to the point where darkening won't be an issue.
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Man after reading all these posts I cannot wait to get the 8000 model, any one have a date if it's release?

I think it should be out almost any day now. A friend of mine at Ultimate Electronics said they were expecting to receive some today to their main warehouse (their PO dates are not always exact but within a week or two generally.)
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Do these tv's auto-dim like the B6000, B7000/7100, B8000 models where the backlight automatically turns down when the screen is mostly black (when a movie is rolling the credits for example)?
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When I stopped by my local BB I sat down and put the glasses on and was like "what I don't see any 3D" then I checked the glasses and sure enough they were not powered on. It is pretty cool and I plan on picking the 55C8000 when it comes out.

I did notice that when leaning your head one way or the other the 3D effect diminishes and way on it's side the screen gets pretty dark although I don't think the darkening portion will effect almost anyone as its a pretty big lean you would need to have and even if you watch while laying down you naturally adjust your head to the point where darkening won't be an issue.

I was thinking about waiting for the C8000, but for $600 less I could not resist jumping on the C7000. The only possible problems that I have seen with the 7000 and I have checked it out at 4 different stores is the flash lighting and it is very minor in my opinion. Also, the flash lighting does not bother me at all personally. From what I have seen in the consumer reports video that has been posted on here is that the C8000 has as much flash lighting as the C7000.

The biggest appeal for me was the 65C8000 and while that would be really nice having that size screen for 3d, I really don't want to spend $4500 for just the tv.
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Man after reading all these posts I cannot wait to get the 8000 model, any one have a date if it's release?

I would say the next 30 days
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I was in Bestbuy to look at mice yesterday and asked about the c8000, and they were clueless. Never heard of it, and wasn't in the system at all.
They do have the new soundbar for 2010 in, and it did sound better, though I don't much like the way it looks compared to last year.
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I recently bought a un55b8000 and returned it for the c7000 due to spotlighting issues. The new TV is worse. I really love both of these sets, but am very annoyed by the splotchiness, so much so I'm considering returning this one too for a plasma.

You can see the spotlighting in the above photo. To be fair, I actually only notice the two spot in the lower left during normal viewing. This image amplifies the spotlighting effect. The lower leftmost one though can be seen during may scenes unless they are bright scenes.

I've tried adjusting backlight, contrast, brightness, and they don't go away. Tried loosening the screws (helped a ton on the b8000), giving it the magic rubdown, etc, nothing helps.

Since this was bought online, its not so easy to just take back to the store for a swap. The Samsung tech guy that came to the house to look at the b8000 said that they're not replacing panels anymore for spotlighting. Its just a characteristic of the display.

Are the rest of you with c7000's having spotlighting this bad?
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wow the c7000 i saw had 0 flashlights but also would prefer to see c8000 b4 deciding what to get right now after seeing 3d on c7000 im leaning towards the b8500 as its freakin awesome
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I recently bought a un55b8000 and returned it for the c7000 due to spotlighting issues. The new TV is worse. I really love both of these sets, but am very annoyed by the splotchiness, so much so I'm considering returning this one too for a plasma.

You can see the spotlighting in the above photo. To be fair, I actually only notice the two spot in the lower left during normal viewing. This image amplifies the spotlighting effect. The lower leftmost one though can be seen during may scenes unless they are bright scenes.

I've tried adjusting backlight, contrast, brightness, and they don't go away. Tried loosening the screws (helped a ton on the b8000), giving it the magic rubdown, etc, nothing helps.

Since this was bought online, its not so easy to just take back to the store for a swap. The Samsung tech guy that came to the house to look at the b8000 said that they're not replacing panels anymore for spotlighting. Its just a characteristic of the display.

Are the rest of you with c7000's having spotlighting this bad?

unfortunately, my c7000 is very similar with flashlights in the left and right and cloudyness around. However, it's only visible with no lights on in a dark scene and it can be helped (if not completely remediated) by lowering the backlight to 6-7. Question though - you loosened the screws on the frame of the c7000? How did you do that without messing anything up? I will try it out but I don't want to screw up my tv (just for this).
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My 2d to 3d impressions:

not really sure what to think - normal tv was really miss or barely visable. Basketball, hockey, tennis - I guess it looked a little better but that's the key - I "guess". I def wasn't wow this is incredible. The menu box actually pops out more than the sports being played. Meaning the menus or stats or whatever is stamped ontop of the pic your watching looked more 3d. I changed the setting to 10 on the tv for depth and it looked a little better but I felt the 10 made my eyes strain more.

What was consistently impressive was the xbox360. COD4 def had more depth as did gears of war 2. NHL was really not so much.

Bottom line - it was good but not sure it's worth the $$ we put down to get the glasses (300). In fact I def know they weren't but I'm waiting for some true 3d to pop up (like samsungs black eyed peas concert or any demos they have) to really get the effect. Not interested in spending more $$ just to watch monsters vs aliens in 3d but espn 3d has me really interested.
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Why not get a local dimming set then?
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Our week old C7000 displayed crapped out on us. The picture has a snowy background with a scrolling 3d'ish red bar...It did this on all inputs. Pretty weird and completely random. Anyone else ran it this?
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I recently bought a un55b8000 and returned it for the c7000 due to spotlighting issues. The new TV is worse. I really love both of these sets, but am very annoyed by the splotchiness, so much so I'm considering returning this one too for a plasma.

You can see the spotlighting in the above photo. To be fair, I actually only notice the two spot in the lower left during normal viewing. This image amplifies the spotlighting effect. The lower leftmost one though can be seen during may scenes unless they are bright scenes.

I've tried adjusting backlight, contrast, brightness, and they don't go away. Tried loosening the screws (helped a ton on the b8000), giving it the magic rubdown, etc, nothing helps.

Since this was bought online, its not so easy to just take back to the store for a swap. The Samsung tech guy that came to the house to look at the b8000 said that they're not replacing panels anymore for spotlighting. Its just a characteristic of the display.

Are the rest of you with c7000's having spotlighting this bad?

No question flashlighting and cloudiness is visible under certain conditions. But turn down the backlighting and contrast and the picture is terrific with no noticeable issues under most conditions. By the way pictures are terrific to show an example but not this one. It is terribly overexposed! Notice that there is no detail on the moon and the picture only serves to amplify the issue. Overexpose a picture of any TV and it will look terrible, period.
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I just noticed something about Bestbuy Bundle Starting later today. Does the Bundle include Bestbuy Geek squad to hook up your tv (?), so in other words, will they force you to pay the extra charge for geek squad or can i save the money 50 bucks and hook it up myself?
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I just noticed something about Bestbuy Bundle Starting later today. Does the Bundle include Bestbuy Geek squad to hook up your tv (?), so in other words, will they force you to pay the extra charge for geek squad or can i save the money 50 bucks and hook it up myself?

no not required, just tv plus bluray player
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no not required, just tv plus bluray player




Are you sure? Doing the math the price would be $3369 with greek squad crapola haha it is $3419 I mean i can see some folks may need help hooking it up but for some they don't need to pay nearly 50 bucks for bestbuy to do it!!
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positive, or if u prefer, fry's has the same deal and of course they dont have geek squad!



oh ok, thanks
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anyone know if BB has the 46" C7000 in their stores. strangely not listed on their website when all other online etailers have it
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Does anyone know if hdmi 1.4 is required for 3d? I'm asking b/c my current hdtv is hooked up via 1.3 and I doubt fios will be releasing 1.4 anytime soon. Does that mean my tests of 2d to 3d are off? Same with the PS3 - it says it will receive a 3d update yet there is no 1.4 output?

Does Bestbuy hook up their 3d bluray with 1.4 or 1.3?
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No question flashlighting and cloudiness is visible under certain conditions. But turn down the backlighting and contrast and the picture is terrific with no noticeable issues under most conditions. By the way pictures are terrific to show an example but not this one. It is terribly overexposed! Notice that there is no detail on the moon and the picture only serves to amplify the issue. Overexpose a picture of any TV and it will look terrible, period.

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guys seriously - it's not the moon he's talking about. It's the black background which even on the highest contrast and brightness/backlight setting, should ideally be solid black. Yes you can reduced them both to make it less noticeable (if not at all) and YES, they only come out when there is no light and it's dark outside but it's still an item I would like to see fixed.
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lol, what a difference
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guys seriously - it's not the moon he's talking about. It's the black background which even on the highest contrast and brightness/backlight setting, should ideally be solid black. Yes you can reduced them both to make it less noticeable (if not at all) and YES, they only come out when there is no light and it's dark outside but it's still an item I would like to see fixed.

Yes, but the entire picture (not just the moon) is overexposed. This makes the issue look worse than it is.

I'm not saying there is no problem - he just made it look worse than it is by overexposing the picture.
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Yes, my picture was overexposed. I'm a bit of a camera novice and no videophile. I was intending to highlight the bright spots in the lower left corner as my eye perceives them during normal viewing. As I mentioned in my original post, these are the only two I really notice during normal viewing. I believe I also mentioned that this picture amplified the spotlighting effect.

I do love this TV. I thinks its superb except for the above issue, so I wan't intending to be unfair.

Turning down the backlight does not help much at all. I have to turn it to 0-1 to really make the issue not noticeable, and thats with daylight filtering into my basement windows. Nighttime viewing its always there.
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For anyone who has the c7000 and is watching the ncaa tourney, i keep getting random studdering or slow motion during the game. I dont think i see it on any other channel but i dont see it when watching the games on my other tv.

Is anybody else seeing this. I have tried like every setting with the amp, but nothing makes it go away

any suggestions??
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My experiences with Samsung's C6300, C6500 and then the mighty C7000 3D Demo!!

First of all 3D --- I must preface that it's not perfect for sure but DAMN some of what I observed provided a number of Holy Crap moments and depth I witnessed truly was not expecting at all.

It took about 3-5 minutes for my eyes to get used to the glasses and admittedly I had the temptation to remove them and give up but after getting used to them it was amazing --- there were times when the Aliens would point their weapon forward and you'd swear you could reach out and touch the dang thing and the more my eyes adjusted the more depth I could see and more and more WoW moments and as I watch I pondered what football game would be like with this or as I watched the Blond Animated Character in her tight latex within the ship her ass was 3D as she stood there and my mind pondered Jenna Jamison popping out of that screen. Toy Story Woody Alert!

While the experience bothered my eyes somewhat I found what I was experiencing was hypnotic and so different and simply kick ass the 8 minutes I viewed the presentation of Aliens/Monsters that I'm nearly sold on the future of this technology provided I can test a long term viewing with the glasses.

I truly did not expect that items would pop out of the screen but sure as hell they did once my eyes adjusted and not only that - when peering into the screen nearly everything within the panel became 3D - it's actually challenging to put into words other than Holy Crap and WoW once your eyes adjust. I look forward to trying this again with content that's not animation and for extended viewing. I'll also wait to test Sony version to see if there's a difference with their glasses and techniques.

Onto the C6300 and C6500 --- Outside the C7000 which was the 3D Demo that was not displaying normal material the C6500 was the best looking panel in the store IMO (no Mag store so no B8500 or XBR8 to compare) and had an LG LH40 below it and it destroyed that panel and it was slightly better than the C6300 next to it. I am expecting that the Sony HX900 may be the true competitor to the 3D LED Samsungs.

I also found that Sony must have paid attention to the posts on this forum on the EX700 looking inferior to the EX500 and someone must have been ordered to calibrate the EX700's as they were much improved this week and bested the EX500 via calibration and it was very good but not on par with the C6500 IMO and the 3D of the C7000 simply kicks butt if your eyes can handle the tech. Of course unlike owners with in-store viewing we cannot check for flash issue and clouds - in-store viewing with their lighting I observed no such issues - I witnessed deep blacks period.

I would expect to see a lot of feedback on these 3D Demo's with BB having them setup now - IMO it was much better than I expected after viewing feedback on this forum and the future evolution and potential of it brings the possibility of a totally new experience in viewing though it's in infant stages now. Go enjoy it but give your eyes time to adjust. My observations that after adjusting to the glasses I saw tons of 3D within the panel and coming out of it and I'm picturing a 65" in my HT with the lights off and this baby should deliver far better than sitting in the store.

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Do these tv's auto-dim like the B6000, B7000/7100, B8000 models where the backlight automatically turns down when the screen is mostly black (when a movie is rolling the credits for example)?

Hi all, first time poster, long time lurker, I purchased this tv last week. So far I love it with only 1 major gripe so far, there is definitely auto-dimming going on with this set. I've also ran into trouble with gaming lag. After reading all the posts, I'm going to try out game mode (just found it in the menu) and report back. I tried playing the new Splinter Cell Conviction demo, and the auto-dimming made the game very had to enjoy. You spend alot of time in dark areas and shadows and each time you get in a shadow the tv would dim making it really hard to focus on your objectives. I want to love this tv badly, and for the most part it has everything I've ever wanted from a tv, great overall picture. But not having an option to kill the auto dim off might make me return it.
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The C7000 does not have backlight dimming based on image content. It has ECO Sensor which dims the backlighting based on ambient lighting. You can turn this off or even better just set the minimum setting. Backlight settings can make a big difference with this TV.

Also be sure to get the latest firmware.
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