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You mean these settings?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...k#post18618050

Do you have the same model and panel? I have a LN55c650 with an AA02 panel.

Yep, those and I have the same model and panel you do. My room is not as dark as many use, so I raised the backlight I think to 6 for cable and 8 for BluRay DVD (or the like and remember each input has to be set separately and you lose everything on a firmware upgrade, so write your changes down). Everything was just a little dark. Do wait a week or so getting used to the settings originally and then adjust. Initially change may seem off, but when you are more used to it you will know if OK or not. I know initially I thought Movie mode was muted, but after these settings and spending some time, seems more "realistic" than the Dynamic mode or others that may have more "pop". /Dan
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Anyone have settings for a 55" c650 AA02 panel? skibum's work pretty well on my panel, but skin tones look a hair off.

I was wondering the same. I have the 46C600 AA02 panel and was wondering if anyone had a good set to work off of. Thanks
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I appreciate having this forum to compare notes on calibration. I've had the set for about 3 weeks now, tried a few different setting. Overall I love the picture, I can tell the step up from my 40A630 in the bedroom. The black level on this is great.

So someone posted a professional review on the owners thread from a UK site, and in the discussion at the end, the reviewer lists his calibration settings. I tried them last night and found them to be the BEST I have seen so far. They were for the C650, but they are perfect on my C630. BTY I have a SQ01 panel.

Here are the settings:
Picture Mode: MOVIE
Backlight: 4 [I CHANGED THIS TO 6]
Contrast: 94
Brightness: 44 [I CHANGED THIS TO 46]
Sharpness: 0 for HD content, 20-30 for SD [I CHANGED THIS TO 10, NOT SURE IF I SHOULD LOWER THIS MORE OR NOT]
Colour: 48
Tint: Neutral (50/50) - [I CHANGED THIS TO 52/48]
Advanced:
Black Tone: Off
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Shadow Detail: 0
Gamma: +1 [I CHANGED THIS TO -1]
Colour Space: Custom (see settings below)
Flesh Tone: 0
Edge Enhancer: Off
CMS Settings (R / G / B):
Red: 50 0 0
Green: 25 55 0
Blue: 0 14 71
Yellow: 52 52 0
Cyan: 24 52 54
Magenta: 43 9 55
White Balance:
Offset (R,G,B): 28, 25, 24
Gain (R,G,B): 19, 26, 24
10p White Balance: ON
Interval 1 (R,G,B): 2 0 0
2: 0 0 -1
3: 0 0 -1
4: -1 0 -1
5: 0 0 0
6: 1 0 0
7: 0 0 -1
8: 0 1 -2
9: 0 2 -2
10: 0 2 -3
Picture Options screen:
Colour Tone: Warm2
Aspect Ratio: Screen Fit for 1080i/1080p, according to source otherwise
Digital Noise Filter: Off
MPEG Noise Filter: Off
HDMI Black Level: depends on source, “Low” for video devices
Film Mode: Auto 1 or Auto 2 depending on content
Motion Plus: Custom, Blur Reduction: 10, Judder Reduction: 0

Give them a try, I would like to know what others think.

Bill

I tried these on a AA02 C600 panel with a few tweaks and boy does the picture look good. I tried Avatar, Pirates of the Caribbean, and Toy Story 3 Blu-ray so far. They do need some more tweaking, but this is the fun of it all. I have placed my tweaks in red.
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Is there anywhere a writeup on the meaning and reasoning behind setting of these parameters? In particular, the 10-point whaite balance settings? e.g., what is the difference between setting values for point number 1 vs point number 10?

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Thanks Dan and CaptainZombie. I have been using the "UK" settings for a couple days. Took a while to get used to but I see what you mean about it looking more realistic. I did turn off automotion though, seemed to cause too much judder.
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Is there anywhere a writeup on the meaning and reasoning behind setting of these parameters? In particular, the 10-point whaite balance settings? e.g., what is the difference between setting values for point number 1 vs point number 10?

Thanks,
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Educate yourself. Read everything found here. See you in a couple thousand hours.

To answer your more specific question, "It concerns the display's ability to provide a neutral shade of white, all the way from darkest black to the brightest white. If the display can't do this, then it will all of the colors will look very unnatural." [Tom Huffman]

White balance is Gray Scale. 10 point is just that, 10 points located along the gray scale from black to white, each point having the capability of adjusting the color of white. Look here and scroll down to What is greyscale calibration?

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Yesterday I came home with a new 40C610 instead of a Toshiba 46G300U and I am glad that I did. The Toshiba is pretty limited in it's tweakability.

This set is an AA03, build day is October 31st.

This set will primarily used for HDTV in the front room, big windows but no direct light.

I tried a number of settings listed here. Some scenes seemed to be too soft, too green in dark scenes or too red in brighter scenes. Flipping back and forth between The Tonight Show, Late Night and basketball I settled on the UK settings but with a few tweaks and now (in my and the little lady's opinion) it looks very natural. I watched a couple of documentarys this morning and it still looks great.

Picture Mode: MOVIE
Backlight: 8
Contrast: 94
Brightness: 46
Sharpness: 0
Colour: 48
Tint: Neutral (51/49)
Eco Solution: All off
Advanced Settings
Black Tone: Off
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Shadow Detail: 0
Gamma: +1
Expert Pattern: Off
RGB Only Mode: Off
Colour Space: Custom
CMS Settings (R / G / B):
Red: 50 0 0
Green: 25 55 0
Blue: 0 14 71
Yellow: 52 52 0
Cyan: 24 52 54
Magenta: 43 9 55
White Balance:
Offset (R,G,B): 28, 25, 24
Gain (R,G,B): 19, 26, 24
10p White Balance: ON
Interval (R,G,B)
1: 2 0 0
2: 0 0 -1
3: 0 0 -1
4: -1 0 -1
5: 0 0 0
6: 1 0 0
7: 0 0 -1
8: 0 1 -2
9: 0 2 -2
10: 0 2 -3
Flesh Tone: 0
Edge Enhancer: Off
Picture Options:
Colour Tone: Warm2
Aspect Ratio: Screen Fit according to source otherwise
Digital Noise Filter: Off
MPEG Noise Filter: Off
Digital Noise Filter: Off
MPEG Noise Filter: Off
Film Mode: Off
Auto Motion: Off
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Educate yourself. Read everything found here. See you in a couple thousand hours.

To answer your more specific question, "It concerns the display's ability to provide a neutral shade of white, all the way from darkest black to the brightest white. If the display can't do this, then it will all of the colors will look very unnatural." [Tom Huffman]

White balance is Gray Scale. 10 point is just that, 10 points located along the gray scale from black to white, each point having the capability of adjusting the color of white. Look here and scroll down to What is greyscale calibration?

You really got me thinking buzzard... after doing some reading on the links you provided and elsewhere, I think that I'm going to invest in the Xrite i1 Display LT. Just have to find out if this will also work on my pj in my theater.

Cheers,
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You really got me thinking buzzard... after doing some reading on the links you provided and elsewhere, I think that I'm going to invest in the Xrite i1 Display LT. Just have to find out if this will also work on my pj in my theater.

Cheers,
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Google it, check with SpectraCal and ChromaPure. The answers are there.

I believe that meter is supported here - free

Not only can you make your display eye popping, there is a great deal of satisfaction in the process, and it is a process. There is a lot to learn but worth every hour expended.

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I've asked before, but there hasn't been any response thus far...has anyone calibrated an fb01 panel?
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Educate yourself. Read everything found here. See you in a couple thousand hours.

To answer your more specific question, "It concerns the display's ability to provide a neutral shade of white, all the way from darkest black to the brightest white. If the display can't do this, then it will all of the colors will look very unnatural." [Tom Huffman]

White balance is Gray Scale. 10 point is just that, 10 points located along the gray scale from black to white, each point having the capability of adjusting the color of white. Look here and scroll down to What is greyscale calibration?

Excellent - thank you for the links.

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Thanks Dan and CaptainZombie. I have been using the "UK" settings for a couple days. Took a while to get used to but I see what you mean about it looking more realistic. I did turn off automotion though, seemed to cause too much judder.

Luckily I'm not getting any judder that I notice. I agree, these UK settings with a few tweaks makes for a more natural/film like picture which I prefer when watching TV and films.

I was having all kind of regrets at first with the C600 thinking it wasn't a good TV. This one is C630 pretty much without the apps which doesn't bother me at all.
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Google it, check with SpectraCal and ChromaPure. The answers are there.

I believe that meter is supported here - free

Not only can you make your display eye popping, there is a great deal of satisfaction in the process, and it is a process. There is a lot to learn but worth every hour expended.

Thanks again Buzz; I've ordered the i1 Display LT w/ ChromaPure Standard. I've read of people using this combo (with a tripod) to calibrate their pj's.

I love to tweak and learn and I have somewhat of a critical eye; so this is right up my alley.

Cheers,
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Ive tried messing with the settings everyone posts here, I just dont understand why Movie mode, no matter what you do is to dark, especially for football watching. Are the settings achieved when calibrating not meant for sports? Forgive me but Im no expert here. I have the LN55C630
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Thanks again Buzz; I've ordered the i1 Display LT w/ ChromaPure Standard. I've read of people using this combo (with a tripod) to calibrate their pj's.

I love to tweak and learn and I have somewhat of a critical eye; so this is right up my alley.

Cheers,
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The next thing you know you'll be signing up for ISF qualification seminars.

Congratulations and welcome to the calibration enthusiasts club. You'll find that any questions that come up will be answered in the Display Calibration sub forum. Lots of pros read that area. If you haven't found it yet, there is a good ChromaPure thread there.

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I appreciate having this forum to compare notes on calibration. I've had the set for about 3 weeks now, tried a few different setting. Overall I love the picture, I can tell the step up from my 40A630 in the bedroom. The black level on this is great.

So someone posted a professional review on the owners thread from a UK site, and in the discussion at the end, the reviewer lists his calibration settings. I tried them last night and found them to be the BEST I have seen so far. They were for the C650, but they are perfect on my C630. BTY I have a SQ01 panel.

Here are the settings:
Picture Mode: MOVIE
Backlight: 4 (to achieve ~115 cd/m2 peak luminance - set this according to your viewing environment)
Contrast: 94
Brightness: 44
Sharpness: 0 for HD content, 20-30 for SD
Colour: 48
Tint: Neutral (50/50)
Advanced:
Black Tone: Off
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Shadow Detail: 0
Gamma: +1
Colour Space: Custom (see settings below)
Flesh Tone: 0
Edge Enhancer: Off
CMS Settings (R / G / B):
Red: 50 0 0
Green: 25 55 0
Blue: 0 14 71
Yellow: 52 52 0
Cyan: 24 52 54
Magenta: 43 9 55
White Balance:
Offset (R,G,B): 28, 25, 24
Gain (R,G,B): 19, 26, 24
10p White Balance: ON
Interval 1 (R,G,B): 2 0 0
2: 0 0 -1
3: 0 0 -1
4: -1 0 -1
5: 0 0 0
6: 1 0 0
7: 0 0 -1
8: 0 1 -2
9: 0 2 -2
10: 0 2 -3
Picture Options screen:
Colour Tone: Warm2
Aspect Ratio: Screen Fit for 1080i/1080p, according to source otherwise
Digital Noise Filter: Off
MPEG Noise Filter: Off
HDMI Black Level: depends on source, Low for video devices
Film Mode: Auto 1 or Auto 2 depending on content
Motion Plus: Custom, Blur Reduction: 10, Judder Reduction: 0

Give them a try, I would like to know what others think.

Bill

FYI - I just picked up the 40" C630 with the SQ06 screen. These settings look great to me for both movies and sports from my STB.
Only changes for me are:
Noise filters set to low.
AMP to Clear.
Dynamic contrast - low (channel surfing - This keeps me from tweaking the setting).
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here are some new settings, these one are for a 55" SQ01-2010 with striping that has broken in for over a month and been upgraded to firmware 1021 your mileage may vary (my last full set were the above only firmware 1007 and only broken in a couple weeks):

movie mode
backlight 6
contrast 90 (tehcnically it probably bumps up the top few shades a bit much and maybe 86 or something would be more techincally correct if with less pop but whatever maybe i'll try that some other time)

contrast 90
brightness 44
sharpness 0
color 51
tint 50/50
eco off
black tone off
dynamic off
shadow detail 0
gamma +1
color space custom - use the same values as in my most recent posting that has them, make sure to change them to those settings
actually here they are again:
R 37,1,0
G 28,50,1
B 4,5,59
C 18,52,61
M 39,3,55
Y 50,50,1
WB offsets r,g,b 25,24,24
gains 20,27,27
10pwb level,r,g,b:
1 7,4,6
2 0,-1,0
3 -4,-5,-6
4 -3,-4,-7
5 -1,-3,-6
6 -1,-1,-6
7 1,1,-3
8 0,2,-1
9 1,3,1
10 1,1,1
flesh tone 0
edge off
warm2
screen fit
DNR off
MPEG DNR off
hdmi black level as needed (Normal for most PC stuff, Low for most other stuff; Normal when you send it 0-255 and Low when you send it 16-235)

Aside from the picture being to dark, After making these adjustments, my remote will not respond to cable box. If I switch to Standard settings, it works fine. All Eco settings are off.
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Ive tried messing with the settings everyone posts here, I just dont understand why Movie mode, no matter what you do is to dark, especially for football watching. Are the settings achieved when calibrating not meant for sports? Forgive me but Im no expert here. I have the LN55C630
I've found movie mode to make the colors "washed out", particularly with regular tv shows including sports. As such, I am using standard color with the rest of the settings per CNET. You may have to increase the backlight setting though if you have a bright room.
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Ive tried messing with the settings everyone posts here, I just dont understand why Movie mode, no matter what you do is to dark, especially for football watching. Are the settings achieved when calibrating not meant for sports? Forgive me but Im no expert here. I have the LN55C630
I find Movie mode to be more natural/film like, especially when watching movies via Blu-ray. I know what you mean when viewing some TV Shows, Football, etc. via cable. The picture does look a tad washed out, which I think these settings need some more tweaking. One thing I will say with these settings is that I am achieving some very nice deep blacks which I never thought would have been possible. I do want to try these settings on one of the other options to see how they turn out.
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I find Movie mode to be more natural/film like, especially when watching movies via Blu-ray. I know what you mean when viewing some TV Shows, Football, etc. via cable. The picture does look a tad washed out, which I think these settings need some more tweaking. One thing I will say with these settings is that I am achieving some very nice deep blacks which I never thought would have been possible. I do want to try these settings on one of the other options to see how they turn out.

Washed out colors on the 2010 Samsung 600 series displays are due to, as you said, improper settings. Once calibrated, the picture is fine.

I've been changing a few things on my 40C630 because I am now incorporating the Cal Day & Cal Night modes. The night mode is sporting a black level of .005 fL and 100% brightness of 41.326 fL for a native On/Off contrast greater than 8000 (excellent).

Relative to earlier posts I have reduced contrast to 86 in both D & N to keep from clipping red. Brightness is 46 for N and bumped up to 49 for D to avoid crushing blacks.

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I have the SQ02 panel, apparently the AA is better, but how do you go into BB and get one. Isnt it luck of the draw?
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I found out I have the SQ03. All I had to calibrate the tv with was the Avia dvd and a THX calibration on the Anchor Bay Suspiria dvd. After going through both discs I found these to be perfect settings.

Mode: Movie
Backlight: 10
Contrast: 95
Brightness: 47
Sharpness: 20
Color: 67
Tint (G/R): G54/R46
Eco Solution: All off
Auto Adjustment: Grayed out
Screen: Grayed out

Advanced Settings

Black Tone: Off
Dynamic Contrast: Medium
Shadow Detail: 0
Gamma: 0
Expert Pattern: Off
RGB Only Mode: Off
Color Space: Auto
White Balance: All 25
10p White Balance: Off
Flesh Tone: 0
Edge Enhancement: Off
xvYCC: Off

Picture Options

Color Tone: Warm 2
Size: Screen Fit
Digital Noise Filter: Low
MPEG Noise Filter: Low
HDMI Black Level: Normal (Grayed out)
Film Mode: Video 1
Auto Motion Plus 120hz: Off
Auto Protection Time: 2 hours

I loved the picture on my 52" Mitsubishi WD52631 DLP and I thought it had great blacks and shadow detail but this LCD with these settings has even better shadow detail and the blacks are about even. The colors were just a little better on the Mitsubishi I think but I'll keep playing with the settings a little. If I put it in standard mode the colors really pop but I think movie mode looks more natural especially the skin tones.
Very very happy with this tv.
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I've found movie mode to make the colors "washed out", particularly with regular tv shows including sports. As such, I am using standard color with the rest of the settings per CNET. You may have to increase the backlight setting though if you have a bright room.

What CNET settings are you referring to?

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ln40c630 SQ06 screen.
Well - I have tried many of the posted settings in this thread. Most are pretty good but seem to look washed out or brownish to me. You calibrator guys have been very helpful to many users and I'm sure I will try a few more. On my set I can't seem to improve (to my eye) on the factory movie setting with just the following changes:
Color temp - Normal
Both noise reduction settings - Low - I actually have an Algolith HDMI Flea but this set does a really nice job on its own as far as Comcast noise is concerned so I've moved the Flea to another TV.
Dynamic contrast - Low
Shadow detail +1
Film mode - Auto1
AMP - Clear
I don't know how accurate these settings are but they look great for what I watch. This set is in the Man Cave and is strictly used for sports, late night talk (Leno etc), and the occasional movie. No Blu-Ray - Just Comcast HD.
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black level of .005 fL ... don't you find this surprisingly LOW ??
That's in Panny VT25 plasma territory !!!

I wouldn't think these could do better than 8/9 fL ... no ?

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Washed out colors on the 2010 Samsung 600 series displays are due to, as you said, improper settings. Once calibrated, the picture is fine.

I've been changing a few things on my 40C630 because I am now incorporating the Cal Day & Cal Night modes. The night mode is sporting a black level of .005 fL and 100% brightness of 41.326 fL for a native On/Off contrast greater than 8000 (excellent).

Relative to earlier posts I have reduced contrast to 86 in both D & N to keep from clipping red. Brightness is 46 for N and bumped up to 49 for D to avoid crushing blacks.

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What CNET settings are you referring to?

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black level of .005 fL ... don't you find this surprisingly LOW ??

I do. Readings were taken with an X-Rite i1Pro and were highly repeatable. This is a fully calibrated display in the CAL-NIGHT mode. Gamma is flat and shadow detail is excellent as well as dark blacks. No clouding, no flashlighting. This is terrific for a mid level TV. I think I lucked out.

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I have a Samsung LN40C630, manufactured in Mexico, with firmware version 2010/07/28_1001003 with an SQ06 panel. I am very pleased with the quality and detail of both HD and standard pictures on this set. It seems that HD picture quality varies between broadcast channels as they are received by my TV antenna. Jay Leno's face and suit on NBC's 1080i broadcast seem to be somewhat lacking in detail, while David Letterman's face and suit on CBS' 1080i broadcast are very detailed. On ABC's 720p Wheel of Fortune, Vanna White's gown is very detailed. 1080p Blu-ray looks great and 480i DVD looks about as good as it can. The detail level of HD broadcasts varies from program to program.

The main problem that I have had with my LN40C630 is that none of the posted settings from this forum have been able to completely tame my TV's tendency to overplay all red colors. After fixing the flesh tones, red colors seemed to be either too orange or too burgundy. The flesh tones were always too red. Blues were also inaccurate, but not as obvious as the reds.

All of my color calibrations were done by playing my Sharp LC-C3242U next to the Samsung with identical broadcast programming. The Sharp TV has very accurate color and one of the most pleasing pictures that I have ever seen on an LCD TV. After going back and forth, over various channels, I was able to come up with a calibration formula for the Samsung TV that looks great to me. The Sharp and Samsung TVs now have nearly identical pictures. The Samsung's white balance is exactly where I want it. I can play a black and white movie without having the screen appear too green, too red or too blue. It looks just right.

Black levels on the Samsung are the best that I have seen on an LCD TV. Apparently, the SQ panel is the source of the good black levels. Also, changing the Dynamic Range Compression of my Panasonic Blu-ray BD-60 from its default setting of Auto to Off has solved my audio sync problem.

For those who have experienced problems getting their Samsung LNxxC630 TV to display accurate red and blue colors, the following settings might help.

SAMSUNG LN40C630 Movie Mode Settings for component/Standard mode for TV.

HDMI Disc players output 1080i, Roku HDMI player outputs 720p and these devices play in Screen Fit mode. 1080i broadcasts play in Screen Fit mode and 720p programming plays in 16x9 mode.

Backlight 7
Contrast 85
Brightness 47
Sharpness 14
Color 42
Tint: Green 50/Red 50

PICTURE OPTIONS:

Color Tone: WARM 1
Size: Screen Fit
Digital Noise Filter: Off
MPEG Noise Filter: Off
HDMI Black Level: Low (when not greyed out)
Film Mode: Auto 1 (when not grayed out)
Auto Motion Plus: Custom
Blur Reduction: 8
Judder Reduction: 0
Auto Protection Time: 2 hours

ADVANCED SETTINGS:

Black Tone: Off
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Shadow Detail: 0
Gamma: 0
Expert Pattern: Off
RGB Only Mode: Off
Flesh Tone: 0
Edge Enhancement: Off
xvYCC: Off (grayed out)

White Balance:
R-Offset: 25
G-Offset: 26
B-Offset: 25
R-Gain: 25
G-Gain: 26
B-Gain: 25

Color Space: Custom
Red: Red 52, Green 12, Blue 0
Green: Red 18, Green 51, Blue 0
Blue: Red 7, Green 5, Blue 67
Yellow: Red 58, Green 50, Blue 0
Cyan: Red 0, Green 42, Blue 53
Magenta: Red 48, Green 0, Blue 35

10p White Balance: On
Interval 1: Red 0, Green +1, Blue 0
Interval 2: Red 0, Green 0, Blue -2
Interval 3: Red 0, Green 0, Blue 0
Interval 4: Red +1, Green +1, Blue -1
Interval 5: Red +1, Green 0, Blue -1
Interval 6: Red +1, Green +1, Blue -1
Interval 7: Red 0, Green 0, Blue 0
Interval 8: Red 0, Green 0, Blue 0
Interval 9: Red 0, Green 0, Blue 0
Interval 10: Red 0, Green 0, Blue 0
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Could I ask what your 'back light' and 'brightness' USER settings would have been set to ... for this CAL-NIGHT black level reading ??

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Could I ask what your 'back light' and 'brightness' USER settings would have been set to ... for this CAL-NIGHT black level reading ??

Yeah, you can ask but I ain't talkn'..... Just kidding.

I made some changes yesterday so I have work to do.

Back light is set at 5, brightness 46 (to just barely see level 17), and contrast 86 (to keep from clipping red). That produced around 36 fL of brightness which is just a little bit high for night viewing. SMPTE guidelines call for 30-35fL so if I get a chance tonight I'll turn down the back light until I get closer to 32fL and see what kind of a reading I get on black level.

One caveat: Every time a change like this is made other parameters are affected so brightness and contrast will likely require readjustment. This in turn will mess with the gamma so a little calibrating work will need to be done. You lose black detail if gamma isn't flat.

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