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What I don't get is this looks nothing like what BestBuy has up on their website for the 47LX9500. Do they have the photos wrong?
I would post a link but there is a price on the page.



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What I don't get is this looks nothing like what BestBuy has up on their website for the 47LX9500. Do they have the photos wrong?
I would post a link but there is a price on the page.




This is the 15" OLED TV set.

You can look it here

http://www.lg.com/it/tv-audio-video/tv/LG-15EL9500.jsp
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Can you verify the version of the HDMI, as all of the LG websites around the world I have visited, mention it as V.1.3 w/Deep Color. Maybe you have been in the presence of one and you can let us know.

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I'm pretty sure this TV will use 1.4 with it being 3D and all. I'm yet to see glasses for these things. Anyone else seen em? Also. I wonder and this might sound dumb but it's a good question. Would samsung 3D glasses work with another 3D TV? I'm site I'd get these questions in my store at some point in time
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I'm pretty sure this TV will use 1.4 with it being 3D and all. I'm yet to see glasses for these things. Anyone else seen em? Also. I wonder and this might sound dumb but it's a good question. Would samsung 3D glasses work with another 3D TV? I'm site I'd get these questions in my store at some point in time

You're right on the HDMI 1.4. I think the Samsung and Panasonic glasses are compatible, but you need to wear them upside down. Seriously, something about the lens synchronization being flipped between the manufacturers.

http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/3D...-Side-Up.shtml
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Hmm. That's odd. That forum had also talked about how each pair of glasses has it's own color shade to match the difference between the color change when doing 3D. What I don't seem to understand is why they each have different shades. Also. (least so far) I've prefered the comfort of the panny glasses over samsung. I wonder it's the TVs 3D effect of the glasses that makes the eyes hurt. I've gotten pleny of customers saying the samsung 3D seems to strain there eyes and not so much the panny. So iguess my question is now. Is it the glasses or the TV that seems to cause this?
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I will put it down to #1 End User, #2 Glasses and lastly #3 The TV. Human anatomy is mostly not configured for conflicting images from the Left and Right eyes.
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I'm extremely interested to know why the 55" 9500 comes in at 22lbs lighter than the 55" 8500. I'm hoping it's down to the screen material and that the 9500 will be less reflective. Even the 6500 is listed as 15lbs lighter than the 8500.
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This is the 15" OLED TV set.

You can look it here

http://www.lg.com/it/tv-audio-video/tv/LG-15EL9500.jsp

That's what I thought, but then why is that the set that is pictured for the 9500 on bestbuy's site. They have like 5 pictures of it.
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I'm almost decided on 55'' model, just waiting for decent review. Anything will be better than my old Toshiba TW56X81
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I'm hoping... that the 9500 will be less reflective.

It's not.
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It's not.

Don't know about you, but my living room is not lit up like the vegas strip
That pic above has got to be about worst case scenario
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Don't know about you, but my living room is not lit up like the vegas strip
That pic above has got to be about worst case scenario

Well, my room is light-controlled, but the person who I was responding to inquired about the reflectiveness of the screen. And it is very reflective. So you can go at someone else.
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Don't know about you, but my living room is not lit up like the vegas strip
That pic above has got to be about worst case scenario

Hello. I'd like to explain my personal point of view about glare, though this is very personal, and there is an enormous controversy in the matter.

Before speaking about TV, I'm going to speak about computers. I have an 24" iMac with glossy screen. When it is off, you can shave your face in front of it. But when it's on, it's wonderful, deep colors and contrast, and nothing of glare. It is clear that here it is necessary to bear 2 things in mind:

- The first one, is that logically you cannot have a lamp or a window that, or gives directly on the screen (any monitor or TV would be seen badly), or that gives in the side of the spectator, over all if this side is very clear (white walls, clear clothes or forniture, etc) because it can reflects on the screen.

- The second one, and this one is more relative to the laws of the optics, is that when the TV is on, it generates a lighting that "wins" over the reflections, and in addition, very important, the image is generated slightly behind than the cover reflective glass, and then the eyes focus in a plane slightly more distant, and "ignores" the glare from the front plane. This is easy to estimate: you can do the effort to focus slightly close, and you will see the before ignored reflections.

With all this explanation, which I want to say is that, the problem really exists, but each one has his perceptions and conditions. I believe that it's fundamental testing any TV in real conditions, and shops usually aren't the better places to do so.

Sorry in advance for my possible mistakes in english, and thank you for your patience.

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Well, my room is light-controlled, but the person who I was responding to inquired about the reflectiveness of the screen. And it is very reflective. So you can go at someone else.

I'll wait for review of a production unit before forming an opinion on a press shot of a demo model. And Bambooben has a valid point as my room is also not lit up like the vegas strip and I don't watch TV from a 75 degree angle.

If you look at this picture pic The screen appears to have more a matte finish. Until the thing is available and reviewed, I'll reserve judgment.
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I'll wait for review of a production unit before forming an opinion on a press shot of a demo model. And Bambooben has a valid point as my room is also not lit up like the vegas strip and I don't watch TV from a 75 degree angle.

Yeah, maybe the angle of the TV is making it look more reflective than it actually is. That makes perfect sense. Maybe the TV is non-reflective from the front and reflective from a 75 degree angle, Mr. Wizard. Never mind that there are plenty of photos and videos of the 9500, all showing that it has a reflective screen. Go ahead and hold your breath for a non-reflective screen, though. Good luck with that. As for your room not being bright, then why did YOU bring up glare as an issue? You're the one who was expressing concern about it -- not me.


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If you look at this picture pic The screen appears to have more a matte finish.

Hmm, you're right, it also looks kind of matte in this pitcure. Oops! That's a picture of an LE8500.
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True, but I'm not the one being a douchebag over the entire subject.

^ I'm not the one who gets entire pages of posts deleted by moderators because of comments like that.
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^ I'm not the one who gets entire pages of posts deleted by moderators because of comments like that.

Actually, I deleted my own posts (as I did once again). Thank you, Mr. Wizard.
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Chill pill, anyone?

LG's released its first 72 inch TV of the year in China. Here's to hoping the 72LX9500 also gets released.
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I'm pretty sure this TV will use 1.4 with it being 3D and all. I'm yet to see glasses for these things. Anyone else seen em? Also. I wonder and this might sound dumb but it's a good question. Would samsung 3D glasses work with another 3D TV? I'm site I'd get these questions in my store at some point in time

The lg websites all over the world mention 1.3 w/deep color which is not 1.4. eg w ww.lg.com/us/tv-audio-video/televisions/LG-led-tv-INFINIA-55LX9500.jsp or even w ww.lg.com/us/products/documents/lg_he_lcd_ss_55LX9500.pdf which are the official specifications in .pdf format. So no, I dont think that the LX9500 will have HDMI 1.4 unless proven otherwise!!!
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Well from what I can see it's just as reflective as the 8500. I've been looking at both and if anything the 9500 has just as much of a reflection. But, it has an odd color to it. Like it's picking some colors up. Idk if it's the light bulbs becuase I can't see the color effect when using my phone for light. Only words I have for it is rainbow effect. Anyone else notice this?
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Chill pill, anyone?

LG's released its first 72 inch TV of the year in China. Here's to hoping the 72LX9500 also gets released.

Wonder what the price on that set will be in the US.
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what date is this coming out it's this month isn't it?
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For Xbox 3D fans:
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Reflections don't look too bad in that picture considering the lighting conditions. Overhead lighting + plus a large camera reflector lighting the people.
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Yeah, maybe the angle of the TV is making it look more reflective than it actually is. That makes perfect sense. Maybe the TV is non-reflective from the front and reflective from a 75 degree angle, Mr. Wizard. Never mind that there are plenty of photos and videos of the 9500, all showing that it has a reflective screen. Go ahead and hold your breath for a non-reflective screen, though. Good luck with that. As for your room not being bright, then why did YOU bring up glare as an issue? You're the one who was expressing concern about it -- not me.



Hmm, you're right, it also looks kind of matte in this pitcure. Oops! That's a picture of an LE8500.

You make some good points which I'll support from my own observations.

My 57" Sharp is Matte and I never see any reflections unless I go to an extreme right or left side adjacent to the panel and that is the only time I can see any reflections - even on a Matte screen but I've never had any occasion to view my panel at any such extremes but never the less even on my matte they can be seen very similar to that LG but have ZERO impact since it's not a viewable area as your standing adjacent to the side of the panel to see the reflections.

I've owned Panny plasma in the past and that baby was reflective 24/7 even in the sweet spot and worse yet the glare/washout made the panel useless in my bright sunny room with large windows - when the sun came in it was hopeless to view any dark movie or gaming content - try playing FEAR in 360 on a sunny day on a plasma and your dead meat or dark movies in daytime and fuggetaboutit.

On the contrary, I've observed the Samsung LED's while reflective up on the walls and similar angles and when off state are quite reflective but I find any that are at eye level in the aisles for sweet spot viewing most reflections are prevented with head-on viewing "Sweet Spot". It seems that everyone is on the reflective band wagon now with Sharp 2010's joining in the mix and from my observations this week of the new Sharps they definitely have worked as long as you can tolerate the reflections and have light control.

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