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I have expert1
backlight 48
Contrast 95
brightness 50
h sharpness 55
v sharpness 60
color 60[b] 50 to 53 should be sufficient
tint 0

dynamic contrast low Will loose dark detail. Medium or Off is best
noise reduction low Off is best
DNR off
black level low
Real Cinema On (can't tell a difference when off so I leave it on)
Color gamut BT709
Edge enhancer low


I then used Phase's color numbers for the rest. The only thing is I don't see where I can change all of the colors in the 10-100 RGB scale? Anyway, to me, I get a razor sharp picture with no video noise
Thanks for positing hour initial settings! Your basic (first 7 settings) are in the ball park. Color should not need to be that high, though. Also, I posted 2 other Advanced setting recommendations.

To enter the IRE values you need to change from 2-Point in "Method" to 10 Point. And I would recommend one of these two settings:

Djams might be best since it was made on a 47LD520:

 

LG 42LD550 HDMI 3 Input ISF EXPERT2 LG BD550 COOL 4-5-11 Usable Range.txt 1.578125k . file

 

Djams 47LD520 TXT BRITE DAYTIME Setting 75% Saturation- 5-11-11.txt 1.1162109375k . file
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Thanks for positing hour initial settings! Your basic (first 7 settings) are in the ball park. Color should not need to be that high, though. Also, I posted 2 other Advanced setting recommendations.

To enter the IRE values you need to change from 2-Point in "Method" to 10 Point. And I would recommend one of these two settings:

Djams might be best since it was made on a 47LD520:

Djams settings look really good on my 47LD520 so I highly recommend them as a starter.
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Can anyone direct me to a site where I can manually update my softwre to VER.08.03.00 I have a mac and have done manual updates before with the .epk file. Please someone help, i can't access netcast without this update. its completely annoying. thank you.
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Can anyone direct me to a site where I can manually update my softwre to VER.08.03.00 I have a mac and have done manual updates before with the .epk file. Please someone help, i can't access netcast without this update. its completely annoying. thank you.

http://www.lg.com/us/support/product...oduct-profile#

Click on the "Drivers & Software" tab. First file (.zip) is the firmware. The PDF file underneath shows you how to do it.
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http://www.lg.com/us/support/product...oduct-profile#

Click on the "Drivers & Software" tab. First file (.zip) is the firmware. The PDF file underneath shows you how to do it.

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Thank you Mr. VBB for providing this link! I waited and waited and Phase and that Otto guy were no help! I bet they are glad you were here and cared enough to find and share this info!

Hi Henry! Otto and I surmised you are here now and then.

How are you and yours doing (LG TV)? Oh. . . . and the family?
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Oh my. . . I am almost aghast with envy and sadness hearing you had some Wharfdales ! Oh, my if I only knew and we were in closer proximity. I worked in a local audio and record shop in the late 1960's and had always lusted over Whardales. I remember well the craftsmanship of these fine English speakers with unique sand filled/laminated wall and resonance free enclosures. My desire was for a pair of W70D's but I would have been ecstatic witha pair of W60D's. Even now, I've found some solace in my B&W DM603 S2 pair. But Whardales. . . in my opinion, back then, there were none their equals!

Thanks for your shared enthusiasm for Wharfdales, Phase. To ease your envy a little, know that these were not a large, high end pair; they had 2 x 6.5" woofers only and 2 x 25mm tweeters. That's it. They were - for them - a sort of lower end item to compete at a lower price point. In the days of yore, which you recalled with such fondness, they were probably still made in England - these were made in Asia - can't recall where. For a critical ear the units tended a little towards the "boomy" in the lower frequencies, and lacked a degree of mid-range authenticity. I bought them about 6 years ago at a very good price, but after I got them home my old Advents, with a single 10" woofer, had a much preferred tight bass and all round BIG sound. But the Wharfies were adequate for a much better soundscape for my old 27" Sony. So don't fret - you would have been disappointed.

Interestingly enough, a very nice man who bought them from me via Craigslist, was your equal in fandom and practically swooned when he took them home. I was greatly pleased that I was able to pass them on to a fellow enthusiast.

Another time about the recent LG buy. Thomas.
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So the person that recommended with TruMotion to turn Dejudder to 0 and DeBlur to 3 really helped with the slight stuttering I noticed in some cable movies. I am kind of suprised they don't default it to this. Although I could have sworn when I watched True Grit Blu-ray with TruMotion set to low I didn't notice the slight stuttering which seems weird, maybe I just missed it?

Anyway I am really happy with this TV with right adjustments it has excellent picture quality, great for gaming also. I have a question I thought I read somewhere after a 100 hours use you have to recalibrate your TV settings, is this true? I mean is it gonna be darker or lighter just wondering since I seem to have perfect settings to my liking, but only have like 60 hours viewing on it.
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http://www.lg.com/us/support/product...oduct-profile#

Click on the "Drivers & Software" tab. First file (.zip) is the firmware. The PDF file underneath shows you how to do it.

Henry, or Phase, Otto et al:

As a relative nincompoop re. electronics, would someone be so kind as to walk me through getting firmware updates into my now 1 year old 42LD550. I have a laptop in my den, connected wirelessly to the modem. But the TV is not in the same room. (My lady's desktop however is in the same room as the TV.)

I've found the relevant site for my TV on the LG web page and one is prompted to download the latest firmware file. Question 1: It states it is compatible with Windows XP - but I am running Seven? Should I download it even so and will it work? Question 2: What do I do once the file has been downloaded into my computer? What's the next step, please?

Finally, on this subject, what are the changes I may expect and do you consider it worth doing?

Too, my new LG-37LV3500 was manufactured in Mexico in Febuary. What is the likelihood that there may already be some firmware up-dates for this one?

Thank you one and all. Thomas.
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Hi Thomas. I'll have to defer to Phase and Henry on this one being as my 47LD520 (no network capability) has never had an update posted so I don't know what the process is. My understanding is that most updates have to do with the network capabilities and not necessarily the tv's functionality.
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Hi Thomas. I'll have to defer to Phase and Henry on this one being as my 47LD520 (no network capability) has never had an update posted so I don't know what the process is. My understanding is that most updates have to do with the network capabilities and not necessarily the tv's functionality.

Thanks, Otto. T.
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Henry, or Phase, Otto et al:

I've found the relevant site for my TV on the LG web page and one is prompted to download the latest firmware file. Question 1: It states it is compatible with Windows XP - but I am running Seven? Should I download it even so and will it work? Question 2: What do I do once the file has been downloaded into my computer? What's the next step, please?

Finally, on this subject, what are the changes I may expect and do you consider it worth doing?


Thank you one and all. Thomas.


Hi Tom, sorry for the delay. We are/were busy with summer day trips lately.

If you have a modem cable connection in the same room as the TV, I would just advise connecting the TV directly up using a long CAT5 cable. You can get one at stores like Staples, Home Depot, Etc. They come in 15', 25', and usually 50' lengths. Then you just turn on the TV, go into the Options menu and let the TV update itself. . . if you wish to. If you do not make use of the Netcast features I would just leave as is. There has been next to no updates that will give you any improvements in your video quality.
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Hi Tom, sorry for the delay. We are/were busy with summer day trips lately.

If you have a modem cable connection in the same room as the TV, I would just advise connecting the TV directly up using a long CAT5 cable. You can get one at stores like Staples, Home Depot, Etc. They come in 15', 25', and usually 50' lengths. Then you just turn on the TV, go into the Options menu and let the TV update itself. . . if you wish to. If you do not make use of the Netcast features I would just leave as is. There has been next to no updates that will give you any improvements in your video quality.

Thanks, Phase. I'll take your advice and just leave well enough alone. We don't use NETCAST stuff - at least not yet. T.
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Just got the DIsh Network for my 47LD650, anyone have some good settings for hdtv viewing? Thanks
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Just got the DIsh Network for my 47LD650, anyone have some good settings for hdtv viewing? Thanks

I don't recall anyone having the LD650 post anything to this thread. I could be wrong so a thread search for the LD650 would be a good place to start. Quite often calibration settings don't translate very well from set to set even within the same model line, so tweaking and experimentation on your part will be needed to achieve the optimum viewing experience for your setup. If you're a DIY kind of person the AVS HD709 DVD would be a good place to start because you can at least set brightness, contrast, sharpness, aspect etc (the basics) fairly accurately for your viewing environment. Keep in mind though that the AVS disk will calibrate the BD-DVD pathway to your LG and should be transferable to the Dish input but my guess is that the source material on Dish will be more variable than a BD or DVD. Hang tight, hopefully Phase or Henry or djams will stop by and give you a little more definitive help and/or guidance.
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NM, i found phase's old settings. Once again Phase saves the day! the "LG 42LD550 HDMI 1 ISF EXPERT 1 Warm 12-19-10 Usable Range.txt" look amazing and I have been saved from bland hd viewing!
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Any suggestions on optimal calibrations for the LN46D550?
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NM, i found phase's old settings. Once again Phase saves the day! the "LG 42LD550 HDMI 1 ISF EXPERT 1 Warm 12-19-10 Usable Range.txt" look amazing and I have been saved from bland hd viewing!

Excellent! Enjoy your set
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Any suggestions on optimal calibrations for the LN46D550?

This is the LG thread. You need to go to the appropriate Samsung thread.
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NM, i found phase's old settings. Once again Phase saves the day! the "LG 42LD550 HDMI 1 ISF EXPERT 1 Warm 12-19-10 Usable Range.txt" look amazing and I have been saved from bland hd viewing!
That setting is very good for movies and general viewing. If you want something that is a bit brighter , here is the setting I've settled on for day or night viewing. For night, I use the Energy Saving button on the remote set to "Minimum", or Medium.


Try this setting in the Expert 2 setting and see which your prefer.

 

LG 42LD550 HDMI Input ISF EXPERT __Baseline__ 4-5-11 Usable Range.txt 1.521484375k . file
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Hey Phase do you have any good settings for Sports viewing? Thanks
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The setting I just posted should be good for any viewing during day or night of any program material. The settings is based on a calibrated gray scale with higher white levels or Contrast and higher back light. Then the Color Management values have been set. Remember, settings posted here or anywhere are really for the individual TV they are made on. It is best to do your own adjusts using the AVS HD709 media. This info is in Post #2 of this thread.
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Ok cool. I am currently using your " LG 42LD550 HDMI 1 ISF EXPERT 1 Warm 12-19-10 Usable Range.txt " for normal viewing and it looks really good but it can be very dark. There are corners of room that are pitch black and sometimes you cant see stuff cause its dark. But it looks great in day scenes. Any way to combat the darkness? I tries the other one u posted a post or 2 ago and it just doesn't look as good. Thanks
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Ok cool. I am currently using your " LG 42LD550 HDMI 1 ISF EXPERT 1 Warm 12-19-10 Usable Range.txt " for normal viewing and it looks really good but it can be very dark. There are corners of room that are pitch black and sometimes you cant see stuff cause its dark. But it looks great in day scenes. Any way to combat the darkness? I tries the other one u posted a post or 2 ago and it just doesn't look as good. Thanks

I know Phase likes to use the Energy Savings feature for daytime/night time viewing so have you tried that?
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Ok cool. I am currently using your " LG 42LD550 HDMI 1 ISF EXPERT 1 Warm 12-19-10 Usable Range.txt " for normal viewing and it looks really good but it can be very dark. There are corners of room that are pitch black and sometimes you cant see stuff cause its dark. But it looks great in day scenes. Any way to combat the darkness?

. . . Thanks

With the Expert 1 Warm 12-19-10, you can try increasing brightness to maybe 58 or 59 and contrast in the 91 to 93 range. Make sure you have "Energy Saving" using the remote button set to "Off". See if that helps? If blacks start to look too gray, reduce Brightness back to 54 or 55.

Also, try Dynamic Contrast set to "Off". Medium is next best, but on some TVs it reduces dark areas in scenes.

Lastly, use Microsoft Notepad or Wordpad and type in all your settings and attach them here in a post so I can see all the settings you have for your Expert 1 Warm setting. And, when you say the scenes look dark , how much light is present in the room you have the TV?

If you are watching in the day time or in a room with lights shinning on the TV screen or into your eyes, you won't be able to see details in dark areas. At night it is best to have a low power lamp behind the TV so there is just light reflected off the wall and ceiling area behind the TV.
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So I noticed after some testing with Truemotion on Low if it is new HD movie, blu- ray or most new HD live tv there is no slight stutter. It seems to be older movies or programing that has some problems. I never notice it with live sports games which is weird since that has alot of movement, which leads me to think it has to do maybe with the way older movies where filmed or converted to HD?

Anyway I am real happy with overall quality of this LG set for the price from a direct view I prefer it over our Panasonic Viera Plasma. But from multiple viewing angles the Plasma beats it.
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Like to thank Phase700B for the ISF expert settings, now my TV looks better than if it was just in Cinema Mode.

Only one suggestion, I would leave Real Cinema On for Blu Ray movies and such, and turn off trumotion (I don't like the Soap Opera effect) for a true 5:5 pulldown when watching Blu Rays encoded in 24fps.
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Hello All!

Thought I would contribute with my calibration here. Done with a newly purchased X Rite Display2 meter. I fought and fought with the CMS system on my 42LD520 and eventually came to the conclusion that it does more harm than good. Apparently, with the CMS on these LG's, color adjusts not only luminance but also saturation (or something to that effect, multiple parameters are affected). It seems to be a common consensus amongst many calibrators to leave the CMS alone, as the color gamut is pretty accurate right out of the box. For Example: http://www.tweaktv.com/forum/find-a-...iew.html#10817

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In the case of the LG the CMS system is so flawed that it can't be used so a professional calibration would be limited to the grayscale and the rest of the user parameters.
I chose to focus on greyscale and gamma. The results on my set are spectacular. Perfect balance and depth like I hadn't seen prior. I spent ALOT of time using the 10pt greyscale to achieve a near flat line gamma - it's pretty close to perfect although I may spend more time on it. It seems like whenever I go to make a few changes I look at the clock and realize I've been tweaking for hours! The wife isn't fond of this new hobby of mine .

Here's two links to screenshots of my resulting greyscale and gamma. The gamma graph with the dotted line is the sets gamma with all IRE and CMS values at zero, solid line is after calibration. I obviously got it much improved:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...n/8-9Gamma.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...Screenshot.jpg

Attached are my settings (I used DJAM's text file and put my own values in). I optimized these settings for a dark room w/small bias light behind the TV.

 

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Like to thank Phase700B for the ISF expert settings, now my TV looks better than if it was just in Cinema Mode.

Only one suggestion, I would leave Real Cinema On for Blu Ray movies and such, and turn off trumotion (I don't like the Soap Opera effect) for a true 5:5 pulldown when watching Blu Rays encoded in 24fps.

Exactly. I haven't provided any setting for Judder or Blur using TruMotion for just that reason. I leave it up to the viewer to determine if they wish to use it. Aren't the picture options great for these mid priced TVs?

Just for the record, what model did you buy and which Expert setting did you try? You can also try using AVS HD709 in Expert 2 and see if you get better results. This info can be found in Post #2 of this thread.
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