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There are a couple of LX900 related discussions spread across the various 2010 Bravia threads. With the 'other 2010 XBR' gathering most of the attention, let's put LX900 praise, reviews, gripes, observations, calibration settings, etc in a thread here.

I just received my XBR-60LX900, replacing a 55HX701 I had for 4 months. The sticker says it was manufactured August 2010.

My LX is in a room with lots of natural light. I have a few observations I can make already compared to some of the other 2010 Bravia models.

Obligatory view of the box (it's big because the 60LX comes shipped with the stand attached)


Out of the box settings with DTV


Side View


Cable Management


Daytime reflections in a brightly lit room with multiple windows





First Impressions
1. Reflections are tamed a bit compared to the 55HX701 but certainly still easily seen (see pictures)
2. Off axis viewing is quite a bit worse than the 55HX701 and very similar to ex700
3. The stand doesn't swivel
4. Out of the box it looks decent with some tendency to get a green tint in certain shadowy scenes and also slightly bluish blacks
5. 2D -> 3D upconversion gives an effect of some sort, but it's hard to really call it 3D.
6. The cable management system allows you to easily route your cables so they fall as a single bundle directly behind the stand, hidden from view in the front.
7. The back of the TV is hi-gloss black plastic like the NX8 series. I haven't heard any of the familiar creaking and popping from the EX700.
8. The widget interface is too slow for my patience.
9. There is some obvious clouding / flashlighting evident on dark scenes and especially on an all black field. This is a bit disappointing for a panel sold at this price point.

Reviews
http://www.hometheater.com/content/s...00-3d-lcd-hdtv
http://www.televisioninfo.com/conten...eview-1741.htm
http://www.televisioninfo.com/conten...eview-1470.htm
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...-33943221.html
http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/...br52lx900.html

Technical Info
Panel: 60" - LK600D3LA6N (Sharp)
Input Lag: 50ms
Behind the Cover: KDL40LX900

LX900 related Threads
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1234925
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1267522
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1238342
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...php?p=18866741
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1234877
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1266925
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...php?p=18886612
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...php?p=19098475
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1208677
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Thanks for posting as I've considered it but Holy Crap those reflections are reminiscent of a plasma I owned that drove me nuts all day long. Don't think I could tolerate in my bright sunny room.

Samsung 65F8000, 60D8000, 40HU6350, Panasonic 50E60 LCD's
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I have had the 60LX900 for about three weeks now and here are my impressions (briefly):

- best 2d picture that I have ever seen. I am big into video games and seeing a 1080p game on this set is nothing short of amazing! Great colors and fantastic motion - no judder at all!

- 3d looks pretty cool with the proper feed. I am not in to all of this 3d stuff though so I could really care less. I definitely see the potential here in providing a pretty amazing 3d experience.

- 2d to 3d conversion = okay. You know something is happening but it is nothing ground-breaking. It provides a little depth, which is neat in and of itself.

- PROBLEM: I am experiencing an automatic dimming in certain "darker or dimmer" scenes, where it appears as though the entire screen has just put on some sunglasses. It happens only in certain scenes but it is quite distracting. IS ANYONE ELSE EXPERIENCING THIS? It used to happen quite often while watching regular tv and even in bright scenes, so i disabled a ton of the eco features. That corrected most of it but now it just appears during very dim scenes. When i hit the menu button during these scenes, the scene brightens up as the menu options come on. Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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The back of the TV is not flat. Is it possible to wall-mount it?

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The back of the TV is not flat. Is it possible to wall-mount it?

Thanks.

Yes you can wall mount it.
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xxrando, Are you seeing reflections in the evening with room lighting? Overall are you able adjust, the photos make it appear unwatchable.
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The back of the TV is not flat. Is it possible to wall-mount it?

Thanks.

Yes, the wall mount points are on the lower (bulge) section. None of the 2010 Sony LED models are flat on the back.
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xxrando, Are you seeing reflections in the evening with room lighting? Overall are you able adjust, the photos make it appear unwatchable.

It has a glass screen, so the reflections depend on the amount of lighting you have in front of the TV. The pictures I posted show how the reflections look in bright daylight. Depending on the material being viewed and the time of the day the reflections can be a distraction or barely noticeable. At night, with normal room lighting, they're not an issue for me.

As bad as they look in the pictures, the reflections seem a bit less than with the HX701.

Here's a night time picture with room lighting which I also added to the first post.
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We had a 65" Viera plasma for a few weeks and I couldn't handle the reflections, so went back to a 52" XBR3. I had my eye on the LX900 60 as a possible replacement, but have concerns after seeing the reflections. It appears there are no sets in the Sony lineup this year with a matte display? I might shop the LX900 vs the NX810.

Beautiful set, but I can't see paying upwards of $4500 unless it checks all the boxes - anti-glare being a major one.
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We had a 65" Viera plasma for a few weeks and I couldn't handle the reflections, so went back to a 52" XBR3. I had my eye on the LX900 60 as a possible replacement, but have concerns after seeing the reflections. It appears there are no sets in the Sony lineup this year with a matte display? I might shop the LX900 vs the NX810.

Beautiful set, but I can't see paying upwards of $4500 unless it checks all the boxes - anti-glare being a major one.

EX500 and EX700 are matte screens and are made up to 60 inches. These are a drop in quality from the LX900 though.
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The Deep Black panel of the 55HX800 absorbs much more stray ambient light and cuts down on the relative sharpness of reflections in brightly lit rooms. It's very noticable in side-by-side comparisions with other glossy screens, even in the stores.

It might be worth checking out if you're sensitive to reflections although you do lose 5" in the process.
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Been looking at this TV as well - wonder how it compares to NX810
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The NX810 spec sheet indicates it will have the opticontrast coating so I would expect the reflections to be the same as the XBR models. It will be interesting to see how they price the NX810. Once the NX810 hits the streets, it may be hard to justify the LX. The LX includes the 3D transmitter and a couple pair of glasses but the NX810 has dynamic edge lighting. Other than that, it appears they may be identical.
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I'm thinking of going with the 60" LX900. here in the Chicago area the price is down to $3890.00 makes me wonder is a replacement is around the corner already.
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I took a look at the LX900 at Best Buy and noticed it has the same plastic construction on the back as the NX700 that I owned and returned; among other things, the cracking, popping noises caused by the brittle plastic on the back for the first hour of being turned on and off was very annoying. When I got the EX700, that has metal construction on the back, it has no cracking, popping sound issues.

Can anyone who owns the LX900 comment on if they hear the cracking, popping noises with this model? I think the LX900 may be one I consider, especially if I decide I want something as big as a 60".

Plus I've come to realize that the local-dimming back-lit isn't necessarily all it's cracked up to be when you factor in the blooming, as I've been very happy with my edge-lit EX700, so this edge-lit LX900 could be looking good.
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Also, what do the current owners of the LX900 think of the viewing angles? When I owned the NX700 the viewing angles were absolutely horrible. Then I get the EX700 and I've very impresesed with how good the viewing angles are.

I've been suspecting that the glass-front of the monolithic design could be lessening the viewing angles. I'd really like to get one of these monolithic designed TV's because they look so cool, but not if it makes picture quality so worse when you're not viewing absolutely dead-center.
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My ex700 snaps and crackles but I haven't heard anything from the LX900. The viewing angles on the LX900 are bad; move just a few degrees to the side and the picture becomes noticeably washed out. It seems about the same on the ex700. The 55hx701, which has the monolithic design, was quite a bit better from the sides.
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It appears Sony is bundling (2) extra pairs of 3D glasses both on SonyStyle and it appears eventually on Best Buy (it appears, but on backorder).

Can anyone recommend a thread on EDGE LIT vs DYNAMIC EDGE LIT?

Those appear to be the big differences between the NX810 and LX900 (other than the need for a 3D sensor/glasses with NX810).
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I finally saw the 60LX900 live and in action yesterday. I'm surprised there isn't more info on this thread, is there another(s) thread getting the LX900 traffic?
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I finally saw the 60LX900 live and in action yesterday. I'm surprised there isn't more info on this thread, is there another(s) thread getting the LX900 traffic?

If there is, I haven't found it.
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I received mine last month. Still blown away by the pix. Might not have it calibrated as I did with my old big box Pioneer. It came out of the box looking great to me!
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Considering purchse of this. Don't know a lot about 3D. Anyone know if this set will take the DirecTV 3D feed, without a converter of some sort?
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As long as you use HDMI. I have FIOS, so maybe the DTV site will have more info regarding your particular box.
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Just looked at the DTV site and the XBR60LX900 and 52" models are supported by DirecTV.
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Just looked at the DTV site and the XBR60LX900 and 52" models are supported by DirecTV.

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Looking at the xbr60lx900. Anyone know of any online authorized dealers willing to negotiate on price. $4500 seems a little steep in this economy. May wait til December to see if it go down.
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Check the forum rules, price talk is not allowed.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/annou...hp?f=166&a=119
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That's why I STILL love my matte screen 52" XBR2. I have a 12' wall of windows and have no glare issues.
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