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I would say the NX. The LX does not have Edge lit dimming.
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Joe,
So would the best Sony 60" be the NX or LX ?

Sony defines the LX as best because it has the most features and it has 3D integrated. The TV industry is deperate to convince the market we want 3D. Why, if the market moves to 3D, all the existing hardware and SW are obsolete.

The LX has more "features", room presense sensor, 3D emitter integrated, and maybe another. These are irrelvant to picture quality. I prefer the industrial design of the NX. The NX has a narrower black border when displaying an image. The NX has the same screen technology, the same electronics, the same display processing engine, and better backlight. I am convinced the NX is the best image.
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What are the main differences between the NX800 series and NX810 series, besides 3D?
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Got mine installed on Friday and enjoyed it all weekend.
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I would post pics but the fallout from how high it is mounted on my wall would be unbearable.

If you like it, that's all that matters. Would love to see some pics!
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I really want to buy this TV, but I am concerned that I won't be able to live with the reflections. Any thoughts, from people that were concerned about the same thing?

Also, can anyone notice any drawbacks with the "local dimming" feature?
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I really want to buy this TV, but I am concerned that I won't be able to live with the reflections. Any thoughts, from people that were concerned about the same thing?

Also, can anyone notice any drawbacks with the "local dimming" feature?

I think the reflection thing depends on your room configuration. I have lots of windows to the side. We have shutters on them. I don't have objectionable reflections with the windows open from my viewing position which is directly on axis. If you sit by the windows with the shutters open, you get no reflections. If you sit off axis opposite the windows you get GIGANTIC reflections. If we have enough people over so that someone sits in the reflection zone, then we close the shutters. If the windows were behind me, the shutters would be closed the whenever I watch TV. I tend to close them most of the time when I'm watching anyway. I do have a large lamp on next to me most of the time and I only see a reflection in an completely dark scene. If you are the kind of owner who obsesses, you may have a different opinion...joe
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What are the main differences between the NX800 series and NX810 series, besides 3D?

The NX810 is very different. The NX810 has the same screen technology as the HX909 and the LX900. These have the opti contrast panel and 240Hz. I find the blacks fantastic and better than with the HX800
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I think the reflection thing depends on your room configuration. I have lots of windows to the side. We have shutters on them. I don't have objectionable reflections with the windows open from my viewing position which is directly on axis. If you sit by the windows with the shutters open, you get no reflections. If you sit off axis opposite the windows you get GIGANTIC reflections. If we have enough people over so that someone sits in the reflection zone, then we close the shutters. If the windows were behind me, the shutters would be closed the whenever I watch TV. I tend to close them most of the time when I'm watching anyway. I do have a large lamp on next to me most of the time and I only see a reflection in an completely dark scene. If you are the kind of owner who obsesses, you may have a different opinion...joe

I appreciate your response! I do hate reflections, and I do obsess , but I am thinking that I may be able to deal with it as I usually watch in a room with all the lights off. I rarely watch during the day, so that's not an issue.

When a scene goes dark, so you see a reflection of yourself - or room reflections - on the screen?

If possible, would you post pics with the light on, and from the same position, with the light off?

I have it narrowed down to the NX810, and the EX701. The cost difference is not an issue: The picture quality, and reflections are. Ii have not been able to see an 810 in person. Is it the same screen, regarding reflections, as the 800 series?

Just as a reference, I am moving from a 70" SXRD, so I am losing 10 inches, and the SXRD has a matte screen.

Thanks!
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The NX810 is very different. The NX810 has the same screen technology as the HX909 and the LX900. These have the opti contrast panel and 240Hz. I find the blacks fantastic and better than with the HX800

I was more looking at the upgrade in the NX series...from the 800 to the 810?
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at slickdeals is a post that says,
US Appliance has Sony 55-Inch KDL-55NX810 3D 1080p LED 240Hz HDTV + Sony PS3 160GB Slim Console + Sony 3D Starter Kit for $2399
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I appreciate your response! I do hate reflections, and I do obsess , but I am thinking that I may be able to deal with it as I usually watch in a room with all the lights off. I rarely watch during the day, so that's not an issue.

When a scene goes dark, so you see a reflection of yourself - or room reflections - on the screen?

I have a HX9 beside a very large window and day/night time viewing is not at all an issue with reflections. The Opticontrast AR filter works extremely well at controlling and diffusing reflections.

On dark areas, you will see a reflection of yourself if you look for it; but it is very dark and not at all distracting, unlike some other "mirror like" panels (e.g. LG LE8500, LX9500).
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my 60" NX810 does not have that problem
It is perfectly level
the stand does have a lean forward though- I suspect that is by design

My HX9 also has a slight forward lean. There is a post (from the HX909 owners thread) with the same lean and another that claim a perfect right angle. Someone speculated the forward lean may be by design to redirect the reflections slightly downwards but no evidence exists to suggest one way or the other.
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Does anyone have any experience with monolithic/ stainless TV stand with built in speakers? Besides looking cool, I wonder how much that improves the sound of the TV. It also doesn't seem like it's available for the 60" which is a shame...

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...accessory=true

I just got the optional speaker stand SU-B550S, and the sound is rich with decent bass. Not at all tinny cheap sound like the installed TV speakers. I would call it a vast improvement over the orignial TV and makes the audio as good/better than the old Sony XBR4 series that had decent size speakers on the front side of the screen. But you have to get over paying another $350 to fix a Sony design issue. The original TV speakers are on the backside of the TV and small since the TV is less than 1in deep. I have a review somewhere in the two forum strings for the NX810. I especially likes the way the speaker stand controls integrate with the TV controls

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Here is my order.


Product: KDL60NX810
Per Unit Price: $3,383.99
Quantity: 1
Total Price: $3,383.99
Description: 60" BRAVIA NX810 Series 3D HDTV
Ship Method: Standard
Estimated Ship Date: 09/29/2010
________________________________________
Product: DLCHD10P
Per Unit Price: $23.99
Quantity: 5
Total Price: $119.96
Description: High Speed HDMI Cable - 3' 3"
Ship Method: Standard
Estimated Ship Date: 09/29/2010
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Subtotal: $3,503.95
Tax:$301.34
Shipping Charges:$0.00
________________________________________
Order Total:$3,805.29

That's a pretty good deal. That's almost my cost on that TV.
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at slickdeals is a post that says,
US Appliance has Sony 55-Inch KDL-55NX810 3D 1080p LED 240Hz HDTV + Sony PS3 160GB Slim Console + Sony 3D Starter Kit for $2399

This deal actually does work. Add all those items to your cart and then add your shipping info. It then updates the total to $2399. Amazing deal on this tv!
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^^ Yep, I purchased from them yesterday. I waited to confirm they had them in-stock and they assured me they had plenty on hand for this deal.

Now I just need to find a console stand!


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Does the nx810 55" have the type of screen that were the front of the tv covered with glass/plastic from edge to edge and does not have a protruding bezel?
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Does the nx810 55" have the type of screen that were the front of the tv covered with glass/plastic from edge to edge and does not have a protruding bezel?

yes-glass edge to edge, no metal trim. As for prtuding bezel-do not understand the term. The TV is approx 1 in thick edge to edge back and front.

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This deal actually does work. Add all those items to your cart and then add your shipping info. It then updates the total to $2399. Amazing deal on this tv!


I am filling the order at that site, the deal still there,

However, I would like to know if this is a legit internet store to buy?

anybody ever brought stuff from them, this is great deal, I really want to pull the trigger....

any comment?

thank you



Edit:

just call the store and place an order, the reps told me it is not available online (which is weird, it actually show in the online shopping cart) I have to place order with him on the phone.
get me finger cross, I can't believe it, such a great deal. the 60" EX701 ($2498) cost more in Sam's club I saw over the weekend!!!
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I am filling the order at that site, the deal still there,

However, I would like to know if this is a legit internet store to buy?

anybody ever brought stuff from them, this is great deal, I really want to pull the trigger....

any comment?

thank you



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just call the store and place an order, the reps told me it is not available online (which is weird, it actually show in the online shopping cart) I have to place order with him on the phone.
get me finger cross, I can't believe it, such a great deal. the 60" EX701 ($2498) cost more in Sam's club I saw over the weekend!!!


Never bought from before, but they are an authorized Samsung internet retailer: http://www.samsung.com/us/peaceofmind/ceddealers.html. So, that's a good sign. While not an authorized Sony retailer, at least one of the big brands has them on their authorized list.
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They are also in the Sony retailer network. Not sure if you're familiar with SlickDeals but there have been quite a few deals posted from this particular merchant. If you search you'll see what past experiences were like. Basically, delivery can be slow if they run out of stock and need to re-order but you should eventually get your merchandise.

They also have a representative who posts on the site that can escalate any issues.


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thank you guys for the input,

this is great to know, now the waiting game start......
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an ABC warehouse near me just pricematched the US-appliance deal. I got:

- 55NX810
- 160 gb PS3 slim
- 3D started kit w/ Alice and wonderland 3D
- 5 year warranty

for a total of 2890 with tax included. The tv alone at ABC was 2899 without tax.
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If someone still has the original box packaging that the 55NX810 comes in, could you please tell me what the dimensions of it are?

I'd like to make sure I can fit it into my car since I'm planning to purchase it this weekend.

Thanks!
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Was originally going to get the Samsung c7000, but I just noticed we got the 55" in of this today at my work, and my jaw dropped. Looks like it's definitely the way to go. Planning to set it up tomorrow after work, hopefully I'll post some pics up, and give some feedback.
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I really want to buy this TV, but I am concerned that I won't be able to live with the reflections. Any thoughts, from people that were concerned about the same thing?

Also, can anyone notice any drawbacks with the "local dimming" feature?

My TV sits right opposite the window wall (I know it's the worst placement but there were no other options) which was one of the reasons I always preferred matte LCD over plasma and, later, the new reflective LCD/LED.

This TV, however, deals with the reflections quite well - unlike many LCD/LED competitors. The screen glass seems covered by some kind of antireflective coating (such as the camera lens) that suppresses reflections and (unfortunatelly) shifts the colors slightly to a purple tint. Or may be it's the resin which is used inbetween the shield glass and LCD panel for reducing the internal and external reflections.

So, though I think I am quite sensitive to reflections, it is not a big issue for me with this TV regardless of it's insane placement
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If you sit by the windows with the shutters open, you get no reflections. If you sit off axis opposite the windows you get GIGANTIC reflections.

Well, it is true that this TV is like a mirror. It means that you can clearly see reflections of bright objects on the screen when the TV is off or showing a very dark/black scene. But. I assume that if you have windows and want to take your TV watching seriously then you have shutters (or something else) to shield them. You also switch off or dim lights that could directly mirror on the screen. And THEN - the reflections are not an issue. You almost cannot see yourself sitting in front of the TV even in a daylight, like you can on many other reflective TVs. In my opinion, the reflections are reasonably suppressed.
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My TV sits right opposite the window wall (I know it's the worst placement but there were no other options) which was one of the reasons I always preferred matte LCD over plasma and, later, the new reflective LCD/LED.

This TV, however, deals with the reflections quite well - unlike many LCD/LED competitors. The screen glass seems covered by some kind of antireflective coating (such as the camera lens) that suppresses reflections and (unfortunatelly) shifts the colors slightly to a purple tint. Or may be it's the resin which is used inbetween the shield glass and LCD panel for reducing the internal and external reflections.

So, though I think I am quite sensitive to reflections, it is not a big issue for me with this TV regardless of it's insane placement

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Well, it is true that this TV is like a mirror. It means that you can clearly see reflections of bright objects on the screen when the TV is off or showing a very dark/black scene. But. I assume that if you have windows and want to take your TV watching seriously then you have shutters (or something else) to shield them. You also switch off or dim lights that could directly mirror on the screen. And THEN - the reflections are not an issue. You almost cannot see yourself sitting in front of the TV even in a daylight, like you can on many other reflective TVs. In my opinion, the reflections are reasonably suppressed.

Thank you for the detailed posts. I appreciate your input Hopefully I will have an answer in the next few days (as to which set I'm going to get).

Still looking for other people's experience with the reflections too...
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TV Info just posted a review of the KDL55NX810

http://www.televisioninfo.com/conten...DTV-Review.htm
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Well, it is true that this TV is like a mirror. It means that you can clearly see reflections of bright objects on the screen when the TV is off or showing a very dark/black scene. But. I assume that if you have windows and want to take your TV watching seriously then you have shutters (or something else) to shield them. You also switch off or dim lights that could directly mirror on the screen. And THEN - the reflections are not an issue. You almost cannot see yourself sitting in front of the TV even in a daylight, like you can on many other reflective TVs. In my opinion, the reflections are reasonably suppressed.

I completely agree. The reflections of those in the room are very muted.
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