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post #271 of 830 Old 09-27-2013, 07:36 AM
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I've narrowed it down to two, but before I pull the trigger I'm hoping someone has a clearer answer.

What (if any) is the difference between the TS01 and the TS02 panels? In my mind I would assume that the 02 would mean it's newer than the 01, but I may not be understanding this whole thing correctly.

Like I've said either in here or the other thread, for $3000 I want to make sure I get the best for my money.
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I don't think there are any discernible differences between the S-PVA TS01 and the TS02 other than mfr cycle. You'd probably have to do side by side comparisons under identical conditions to determine the differences, if any. What is best is determined by you, not anyone else. Even within the "best" panels, you can always get a less-than-desireable one.
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See my above post and let me know what version you get when yours arrives. If it is a TU02 like mine I think you will be thrilled.

IT IS I GOT 2 TU02 PANELS !!!!!

I bought 2 UN46F6300's before they sell Out. $600 bucks WOW!!!!
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IT IS I GOT 2 TU02 PANELS !!!!!

I bought 2 UN46F6300's before they sell Out. $600 bucks WOW!!!!

Nice is that Canadian dollars I am assuming? I paid about $800 US for mine. Did yours require a software update after connecting to the Internet? I was kind of surprised my 46 inch did because the 40 inch was already on the latest version and they both have the same manufacturer date August 2013.

Here is the service menu from my 46 inch if you want to post yours to compare. I only just did the setup yesterday.

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I'll post Picks in the coming Days. OPened One and its flawless, Where the Manufacture Date ? on the Box ?

I'll have to Dial, in the Colors better, the VIZIO M Series had them to my liking perfect out of the Box. But the SAMSUNG is just Brighter, Channels Look better. More Pop to the colors.

Had I known Better I would have Gone 50 Inch but 46 is just enough. And I Speculate, that ALL, UN46F6300's for 2013 are SAMSUNG Panels, Until That Run is finished, and they outsource the Second or third run to a lower Tier Manufacturer.

One thing I miss about my VIZIO M series and I still might buy one, You can Engage, Smooth Motion, During GAME Mode, And it does not affect the Input Lag,
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I have a Samsung UE32F5000, the european version.
Code in Service Menu is 32A6AF0S.
No panel code on box nor on the back of tv.

I got a loupe, supposedly of 20x magnification (sceptical), and looked at the pixels on the screen.
I have no camera to take a picture myself but I can say that the overall subpixel structure looks very similar to this:



http://www.digitalversus.com/tv-television/screen-technology-sub-pixels-up-close-a1547.html
PSA type according to this source. I think I've read Samsung newer S-PVA panels have some sort of PSA technology or something... dunno really how it works...
http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-tvs/1113353-lcd-matrices-differences-what-models-placed.html

I can't fully confirm that my panel subpixel structure is absolutelly identical to this picture, I will need a stronger magnifying device maybe one of those 10 bucks portable microscopes found on amazon or ebay lol, but the quadrangular/rectangular subpixel structure is the same.
Mine seem to be more straight and perfectly lined within the RGB components and sort of less 3 dimensional than in the picture but I will need a stronger magnification to confirm.


Just to confirm that the pixels on my UE32F5000 match exactly these pictured here, after looking with a stronger magnification microscope.
Guess that explains why my TV looks so good. biggrin.gif
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I would like to know how many people own the 5500-series of Samsung with a TS01 panel... specifically 40" if possible. I ask because I may be the first person to encounter really terrible ghosting / blur with my brand new set using a Samsung panel. I bought this TV to replace my 22" computer monitor.

Observations:
  • When composing an e-mail or document, I notice blurring simply from using my mouse scroll wheel to go up and down on a page.
  • One slight scroll up/down on this thread shows blurring / ghosting about 1" or so in either direction of the thread's title ("Samsung Panel Version Thread") .... it resembles "rain stain" on the side of a building.
  • Using large letters (i.e. size 72 Calibri font) shows ghost image of entire letters above / below where the actual letters should be with only SLIGHT scrolling up/down on mouse wheel.
  • Using same large letter size but aggressively scrolling up/do yields ghosting ~ 8" to 10" trailing the letters when scrolling


Things I have tried doing to "fix" the problem:

  • Latest Radeon drivers for my video card
  • Latest Samsung Firmware v1113
  • Different HDMI ports
  • Different types of cables (HDMI vs. DVI-to-HDMI)
  • Shutting off all video processing on HDTV that is possible
  • Movie mode
  • Labeling inputs as "PC" or "DVI PC"

My 22" Samsung LCD Monitor that I bought back in 2005 doesn't even come close to how bad this HDTV is ghosting. Is anyone aware of this being a problem, or did I simply buy a lemon?

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Try using your TV with another source and/or tweaking the settings on the PC side.
Notice also that due to the screen size differences motion blur issues will always seem augmented in the larger screen.
But this thread is not really the appropriate place to ask for help I'm affraid.
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Try using your TV with another source and/or tweaking the settings on the PC side.
Notice also that due to the screen size differences motion blur issues will always seem augmented in the larger screen.
But this thread is not really the appropriate place to ask for help I'm affraid.

Problem solved!!! Out of desperation, I started looking around within the Catalyst Control Center as you suggested. I went to the section called "My Digital Flat-Panels". From there, I found something called "Pixel Format". By default my pixel format was set to "YCbCr 4:4:4 Pixel Format".

After some experimenting around I found that:

"RGB 4:4:4 Pixel Format PC Standard (Full RGB)" mostly fixes the ghosting problem... I seem to get it every 3rd or 4th scroll when rapidly scrolling up and down.
"RGB 4:4:4 Pixel Format Studio (Limited RGB)" seems to fix the problem entirely (but at the expense of what appears to be a little less vibrant desktop).

Hopefully this may help someone else out so that they're not pulling their hair out of their head.

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I recently have bought an UE40F5500 (European model), as an replacment for my 40A656 LCD.

The picture quality is unfortunately not really great, the viewing angles are bad in mine opinion.

Everything looks more pixelated, like text or some broadcast logos, I can see some ghosting effect occur sometimes.

 

I looked in the Service Menu, and I have an Sharp panel I think: 40H6AF0S.

Mine 40A656 has an Samsung panel for sure, so this is an downgrade for me.

 

The only thing I really like this TV is the semi-glossy finish VS. the mirror like glossy finish on my 40A656.

 

Is there anyone else here with an Sharp panel with the same experience?

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so anyone ever calibrated his TV so we could put D65 calibrated CR figures on those panels? I'll have a 32R panel calibrated in the next coming days :)

 

I can confirm that the 32P panels are a plain rip-off(washed out black, poor native CR & sluggish response times) and I have yet to see a 32A panel in the european F5000 serie. This 32R panel reminds me a lot of the 5K:1 BL2410PT, which is supposedly using the best panel AUO has to offer.

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I can confirm that the 32P panels are a plain rip-off(washed out black, poor native CR & sluggish response times) and I have yet to see a 32A panel in the european F5000 serie.

You're not looking hard enough rolleyes.gif.
How about you try to scroll up the page just a few noches and endure a bit more in trying to find my hardly visible post which so conveniently has an hidden picture of the pixel structure of the panel of my TV?

Headphone geeks have no business in messing with TVs, probably do more harm than good, keep your hands hot of it!! tongue.gif
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hah, well show me some hard figures like black level and native CR then :p

 

I was impressed by the BL2410PT and this thing is the same but bigger and without the nasty PWM and grainy antiglare layer at that, me like it a lot and I've truly grown tired of playing the panel lottery tbh :mad: 

 

The one I have barely suffers from vertical banding as I've seen very poorly backlit R panel 5000's. Of course P panels were AOK on that matter due to the lower contrast(which was so low that the built-in BFI feature made the picture way too dim).

 

BTW, they just released a new firmware update....no changelog of course.

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Yeah, to bad about this panel lottery crap, I was trully lucky in getting a S-PVA panel from an online shop as at the time I wasn't aware of the panel scene.
I literally bought blind, despite reading the praise for this model from some pro reviews...

I'm not updating my TV as long as Samsung continues to not publish what the updates consist on.
It doesn't look like my TV needs an update anyway. It works just fine and looks great.
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Headphone geeks have no business in messing with TVs, probably do more harm than good, keep your hands hot of it!! tongue.gif

Apparently I also don't know how to right "out" correctly lol.
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Apparently I also don't know how to right "out" correctly lol.

"write" lol.
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Hi there!

My European 42F5000 has a vertical bar on the image that annoys me, even if it isn't visible all too often and I'm thinking of trying to exchange it. I'm new to this world, so I'm a bit lost. I'm trying to figure out what version is the panel I have right now, but I can't figure it out. Any help?

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Most likelly not a Samsung panel, since there are no document 42" Samsung panels.
But banding is not necessarily correlated with panel version.
Banding unfortunatelly is a common occurence with LCDs and if in your model it is not to bad or noticeable when watching normal content, I'd suggest you reconsider before exchanging it.
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Most likelly not a Samsung panel, since there are no document 42" Samsung panels.
But banding is not necessarily correlated with panel version.
Banding unfortunatelly is a common occurence with LCDs and if in your model it is not to bad or noticeable when watching normal content, I'd suggest you reconsider before exchanging it.


I'll see if I can snap a good picture of it, it's noticeable in some types of image more than others, but it really annoys me at times.

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Is the UN60F6350AF VERSION HS01 any good ? Don't want to have issues. Thanks Anne
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hi there,

i just bought the samsung 46f5000. at the back of the device there is a sticker which says:
model: Ua46F5000AM
model code: UA46F5000AMXSQ
version no: TP01

what does it mean?
by the way the viewing angle is not that great, comparing to my 3 years old panasonic lcd, so i suspect it isn't a samsung panel..
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Do i have a Samsung panel or not (europe version).

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I was at Costco today looking at the Samsung UN55F6350AF and the UN46F6350AF TV's. The version number on the 55" was WH02 which I haven't seen on this forum before. The picture seemed very good along with the off angle viewing. Anybody know if this is a Samsung panel?
Thanks!
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Does anyone have any idea what type of panel B is? I got in on the deal with a price match for a UN32EH4003 @ $150 for my parents, but it has GD04 on the box and 32B6AH1D in the service menu.

I've seen this "B" panel mentioned once on these forums, but no one ever concluded who makes it. Could Samsung possibly be mixing things up to confuse the .1% of consumers (us lol) who care about this stuff?
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I just posted this in the 6300 thread, so I hope people don't mind if I cross-post. I just found this thread, so maybe someone with more knowledge of these new codes can help?

I'm trying to decide between a UN65F6300 for $1500, or a UN60F7100 for $1600 this coming week. The better value and larger screen size of the 6300 are tempting. I prefer the look of the 7100's Ultra Clear Panel, but it's not a deal breaker. I could do without 3d and the goofy remote, but I assume I could always buy a bluetooth remote from Samsung, since they used to include both.

I was under the impression that Samsung didn't make panels larger than 55". There has been some confusion about who makes MS01 panels, and it seems that they're at least made in Korea. Could be LG and not Samsung, I guess, but check the following links to see if I'm correct:

Link to Sears Parts for UN65F6300AFXZA-MS01. LCD panel part number is BN95-00879A:

http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/part-model/Samsung-Parts/Television-Parts/Model-UN65F6300AFXZAMS01/1482/0333600/50042267/00001?blt=06&prst=&shdMod=

I found the following page on Google:

http://www.zauba.com/import-LCD+1+LED/hs-code-90138010/p-4-hs-code.html

It should be the 7th one down and says country of origin is "KOREA,REPUBLIC OF"

However, when looking up "BN95-00879A" on other websites, I see references to AUO:

http://www.partsimple.com/bn95-00879a-smg-n-13.html

I don't know what to believe.
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I was at Costco today looking at the Samsung UN55F6350AF and the UN46F6350AF TV's. The version number on the 55" was WH02 which I haven't seen on this forum before. The picture seemed very good along with the off angle viewing. Anybody know if this is a Samsung panel?
Thanks!
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It seems to be. I bought the 55" from BJ's and it was WH02, but based on the service menu it seems to be a samsung panel.

 

So far viewing angle and quality are fantastic.

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I'm hoping someone can help me quickly so I wont have to go thru and read every post on this thread...

 

Was at Costco looking at the UN55F6350A.  Checking the stickers on all of the boxes I found a total of three different panel codes... TH01, WH04 and UH02..

 

I'm pretty sure I recall reading that the TH01 was definitely made by Samsung... Can anyone tell me if this is correct and anything about the other codes?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

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WH and UH are unknown.
TH is Samsung.
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TH01 for sure is the Samsung S-PVA panel because I bought one for my son this summer at Costco (had to go thru a few boxes to find it) and I confirmed it later with the loupe test. Rumor has it that UH02 is also the S-PVA panel but I haven't seen that confirmed. If you go with the Txxx code, you'll for sure get the S-PVA.
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