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Questions for you: How much 10bit addressable content do you have? What device do you have that will send it?



I have nothing right now but I bought this TV hoping to keep it for 10 years and when 4k content does come out in a few years and it is in 10bit then it would suck to have a 8bit screen..
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What's truly going to suck is in 2.5 years you find out you need Displayport on all your devices.
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What's truly going to suck is in 2.5 years you find out you need Displayport on all your devices.
But by that time all devices will be fully HDMI 3.0 compliant
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Doing this for me...

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Originally Posted by http://www.techhive.com/article/171223/10_bit_color.html
Home HD video signals (including Blu-ray) use 8-bit color, meaning that for each pixel, the signal contains eight bits for each of the three primary colors, or 24 bits total. Since there are 256 possible 8-bit binary numbers, you get 256 shades each of red, green, and blue. Combine the three together, and you get 16,777,216 possible colors (256 cubed).

That sounds like plenty, and to the naked eye, it is. But subtle differences between those 256 shades, impossible with 8-bit color, can help create depth and a sense of reality.

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If we had 10-bit color, meaning that for each pixel, the signal contains ten bits for each of the three primary colors, or 30 bits total. Since there are 1024 possible 10-bit numbers, you get 1024 shades each of red, green and blue. Combine the three together, and you get 1,073,741,824 possible colors (1024 cubed)
http://www.techhive.com/article/1712...bit_color.html




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But by that time all devices will be fully HDMI 3.0 compliant
HDMI is going the way of the DoDo and Plasma
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What's truly going to suck is in 2.5 years you find out you need Displayport on all your devices.
One connect box takes care of that.
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One connect box takes care of that.
If that be true:
Wouldn't it be interesting to know if it is the inclusion of this "One Connect" device, that determines which cell is assembled into the final product in order to take advantage of bit processing?

Humm???
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One connect box takes care of that.
If you can get one without firmware update issues and the myriad of other problems that the "beta testers" for the OneConnect box are seeing. Besides, the port is proprietary so you are stuck with Samsung forever unless you change mfrs. And, there's no guarantee that the OneConnect box will be a one-time purchase.
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HDMI is going the way of the DoDo and Plasma
One hopes, but HDMI.org seems to have the industry by its collective balls so we'll see.
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If you can get one without firmware update issues and the myriad of other problems that the "beta testers" for the OneConnect box are seeing. Besides, the port is proprietary so you are stuck with Samsung forever unless you change mfrs. And, there's no guarantee that the OneConnect box will be a one-time purchase.

For U.S. owners, firmware issues were basically solved around 3 weeks ago. Only widespread problem at this time is the Netflix app which is outputting only stereo and no "5.1" (both Samsung and Netflix are aware of the issue and a fix is expected soon). Of course you can find examples of problems; but that's the case with any thread on this forum.


Regarding "no guarantee that the One Connect box will be a one-time purchase", how many things do you buy with a "guarantee" that you will never purchase a replacement? Not to mention, the strategy for the One Connect is that it gives owners the option of upgrading any year they feel changes/upgrades are worth the cost (e.g., if Displayport did become the standard for connecting 4K players--won't happen but it is only an example). I personally like the option of a $400 upgrade vice the alternative of buying another $3k-$4k display.
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Just wanted to share some Random non specific shots to get yelled at for doing it.
No issue doing this at my Local Walmart, the MOD (Manager on Duty) was intrigued.
- Vizio - IPS
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Questions for you: How much 10bit addressable content do you have? What device do you have that will send it?

I have nothing right now but I bought this TV hoping to keep it for 10 years and when 4k content does come out in a few years and it is in 10bit then it would suck to have a 8bit screen..

Based on my experience with AMD GPU 10-bit LUT transformations, you can create much smoother gradients if you take an 8bit signal and convert it to 10bit. Because you can use techniques such as dithering of an 8-bit signal into 10-bit to smoothen gradients.

I suspect that a lot of panels are doing this already.
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Originally Posted by darklostsoul IXBT translated
conclusion from the information which he received:
1 - maybe a-mva (met several opinions that 61 ** do not put s-pva)
2 and 6th - psa s-pva (judging by TH01 in 6100) ...
3 4 5 7 and 8 are likely to s-pva
9 - no idea
10 - s-pva? (especially surprised by the level of black, beside him stood three Samsa 6100 6200 6400 compared with him .... heaven and earth, even under considerable light store)
11 - psa a-mva
For me that's very strange, what's nº 1 so different in respect to s-pva (3,4,5,7 and 8)?
Also another thing to note 2 and 6 (marked as psa s-pva) are different, or either one of the photos is upside down, you can see clearly that one part of the pixel is larger than the other.
It would be nice to know the main differences between s-mva and s-pva, which look pretty much identical to judge by the images.

Here an interesting note:
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And it's probably not P-MVA, as that seems to have a "six segment" design whereas yours (s-pva) has a "four segment" design.

-A good page about this is this, although it doesn't answer much of the questions we might be interested on.
-More images here. The mva (s-mva?) looks like nothing compared to the s-pva (v shaped). And it contradicts with the above link, check again on the section called 2004: PSA: Created by Fujitsu, Adopted by Samsung, AU Optronics (VA Family) the second image. No wonder people don't know what to believe!
-Another list. Looks like s-pva has a denser subpixel structure than s-mva.
-And forum ixbt listing many types.

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DOG!!! After a pot of coffee I still find the above to be just too disparate.

............SO................
im going to take a nap
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DOG!!! After a pot of coffee I still find the above to be just too disparate.

............SO................
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But by that time all devices will be fully HDMI 3.0 compliant
HDMI is what SATAN asked for and everybody (on big industry) PLEASED him with it !

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Sammy 8550

Hey guys
Just been checking out samsung 8550 here in Australia
The one that I thoroughly tested in a shop had the panel IS02 which had verticle banding (wasn't impressed)

I since then have been to ten different shops and every single 65inch 8550 has the same model or version number

I don't want to buy one unless I can get a ts01 or th01 from what I've heard

Is this correct or are there a few other panel codes that r also good?

Thanks for anyone's help
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Hey guys
Just been checking out samsung 8550 here in Australia
The one that I thoroughly tested in a shop had the panel IS02 which had verticle banding (wasn't impressed)

I since then have been to ten different shops and every single 65inch 8550 has the same model or version number

I don't want to buy one unless I can get a ts01 or th01 from what I've heard

Is this correct or are there a few other panel codes that r also good?

Thanks for anyone's help
I think the TS01 is the only one you want in the 65".

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How did you know/see it was a IS02 panel? Is labeled behind the TV?

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I think the TS01 is the only one you want in the 65".

Thanks sikclown

So only ts01
Not even th01?

And let's just say no one in Australia that I can find has ts01 which panel should I settle for ?

Thanks again
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Yes gradius2

I look at the back of the TVs in the shop opposite side to the inputs
Normally on a silver plate of some kind
And it says it next to "version number"
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