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No online retailer is ever going to pull a specific panel for a customer. They grab whatever is next in line. The ONLY way to get a specific panel is to purchase it locally. LG does the same thing with their S-IPS panels. I had to go to two different BB's, and had the salesperson find one in the back that had the panel designation for S-IPS. They are more than happy to do that if they think they are going to make a sale. When I bought my son's Samsung, I went to Costco and looked at the stacks of EH5300's they had on the floor until I found one with the TS01 version number and had the Costco person pull it out for me.
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Can anyone identify the panel manufacturer for this Samsung model, I have not seen this version number mentioned anywhere:

UA - 39FH5003
Ver. #: XD01
SN: 0BD93DBF701152X

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39" - apparantly AUO.
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From reading this thread, those with a "D" somewhere prolly means its Chimei/CMO/Innolux/whatever the hell they are called now. I do hope its AU Optronics rather than CMO. From my casual inspection, this model seems to have good viewing angles, almost IPS-like. Also, what does xxxx5003 imply, compared to a straight xxxx5000 model? TIA
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If you can't find the xxxx5003 model number online, it's probably a dealer-specific model (sort of like what Costco does around the holiday season for special priced models) that may or may not have the same features that the searchable xxxx5000 series has. Or it's a European model. It's not uncommon for mfrs to make dealer-specific models for their big-box store retailers. The letter designation for the supposed panel type is given only in the version number, nowhere else, unless you venture into the SM (not recommended).
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Hey everyone, I was planning on purchasing a H6350 55 inch tomorrow. I heard about the panel lottery and did some research, and I read that every 55inch model has a Samsung panel. Is there any truth to this or am I going to have to check the stickers on the boxes to make sure? This is all pretty stressful.

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From reading this thread, those with a "D" somewhere prolly means its Chimei/CMO/Innolux/whatever the hell they are called now.
As far as i know there's no CMI/Innolux panels in Samsung 2013-2014 line-up. You can find CMI in new Panasonic tvs for example.
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OK - I have been reading this forum and trying to decide whether to pull the trigger on the Sammy UN78HU9000 from ECTV. I spoke to Steve who was real nice and informative and who pointed me to research Panel Lottery. I knew nothing about this. They are recommending the TS01 panel which they claim is Sammy mfg. and will be a better picture.

Can anyone verify??? Of course it is more money - and I am willing to get it if this forum thinks collectively that it is worth additional dollars.

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Received invoice from customer service within 24 hrs. Shows order received and confirmed all costs. 8/7

8/8: shows shipping status - shipped by other. Cannot track number provided.

Waiting to see progress. They are closed on Saturdays.

Will call tomorrow - Sunday for update.

Today or early this week is the the much anticipated moment. I hope your expectations are exceeded. If you are taking request... I'd like to see a Macro picture of the pixels on one of these large 4K, high end, first run devices.

On that topic (first run) and specifically concerning panels; I have recently taken my 47" Westinghouse 2007 apart to find it has a Philips LG panel installed. Most of my peers in that thread are long gone onto other displays due to the use of other components that did not meet their exceptions or last. I spent the premium back on 6/11/2007, and did not know S-IPS from sipping wine.
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Today or early this week is the the much anticipated moment. I hope your expectations are exceeded. If you are taking request... I'd like to see a Macro picture of the pixels on one of these large 4K, high end, first run devices.

On that topic (first run) and specifically concerning panels; I have recently taken my 47" Westinghouse 2007 apart to find it has a Philips LG panel installed. Most of my peers in that thread are long gone onto other displays due to the use of other components that did not meet their exceptions or last. I spent the premium back on 6/11/2007, and did not know S-IPS from sipping wine.
I spoke with ECTV yesterday and because it was Sunday I could not get an ETA on the truck delivery. ECTV told me to call back Tues and they would be able to give me an update on the delivery.

Re the pix on the picture on the TV.... Will do when received.
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I skimmed through this and didn't see my scenario so forgive me if it's been asked.

I am about to buy the UN60F8000 from an online retailer known for it's bait n switch. I have a background in TVs but nothing current, just enough to know what I need to turn down to maintain a good deal. But this panel thing has me baffled.

They have the TH01 Panel listed at a price $450 lower then the TS01 Panel. Is it really a $450 dollar difference or are they just attempting to separate the panels in order to perform the bait and switch. They are trying to sell it so much that they'd rather push me to a 55" US02 for the same price as the 60" TH01. Back in my heyday of selling TVs we'd use similar tactics, but the bottom line was the customer was going home with a sweet looking TV for the average watcher.

Let me know, I can't for the life of me figure it out. It seems like both the TH and TS are good panels.
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I skimmed through this and didn't see my scenario so forgive me if it's been asked.

I am about to buy the UN60F8000 from an online retailer known for it's bait n switch. I have a background in TVs but nothing current, just enough to know what I need to turn down to maintain a good deal. But this panel thing has me baffled.

They have the TH01 Panel listed at a price $450 lower then the TS01 Panel. Is it really a $450 dollar difference or are they just attempting to separate the panels in order to perform the bait and switch. They are trying to sell it so much that they'd rather push me to a 55" US02 for the same price as the 60" TH01. Back in my heyday of selling TVs we'd use similar tactics, but the bottom line was the customer was going home with a sweet looking TV for the average watcher.

Let me know, I can't for the life of me figure it out. It seems like both the TH and TS are good panels.
Both the TS01 and TH01 are made by Samsung. Not sure about the US02.

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I am about to buy the UN60F8000 from an online retailer known for it's bait n switch. I have a background in TVs but nothing current, just enough to know what I need to turn down to maintain a good deal. But this panel thing has me baffled.
Why would you ever buy a tv from an online source that you know practices bait and switch? That baffles me. As has been pointed out, Txxx panels are the Samsung S-PVA panel. The lower-priced tv could be a refurb, a store demo, what ever.
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Why would you ever buy a tv from an online source that you know practices bait and switch? That baffles me. As has been pointed out, Txxx panels are the Samsung S-PVA panel. The lower-priced tv could be a refurb, a store demo, what ever.
It's the bargain shopper in me, I have enough wits about me to not let them perform the switch or upsell me... I'll walk out a grand under list price on Amazon and big box retailers. It's a risk I've always taken which knock on wood has so far panned out.

As long as I know the TH01 is a solid panel I'll stick to my guns!

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Known for 'bait n switch'.... why bother then?? Is there a TH01? Would one not logically conclude that TH01 would proceed TH02?

Both these versions show a Item Number ofBN95-00950A


For the replacement.. three sites show only that part TVServiceParts, searspartsdirect, and samsungparts


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Are you thinking the TH01 might not exist anymore? I know sears used to sell the 60f7500 that listed the TH01 as the panel...
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Samsung also uses different panels on their plasma TVs. I have seen the F4500 plasma with US02, UD01, and TS02 panels. All Samsung panels. Both recent plasma purchases had the TS02 panel on the 51inch F4500 and F5300. But the 60 inch F5300 uses a different pentile panel.
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I'm demonstrating that a TH01 for that model is unGooglefooable. That may be the bait and switch.. a different Model number with version number of TH01 all together different than the Googlefooable Samsung un60f8000bfxza TH02/TS01
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I'm demonstrating that a TH01 for that model is unGooglefooable. That may be the bait and switch.. a different Model number with version number of TH01 all together different than the Googlefooable Samsung un60f8000bfxza TH02/TS01
The more and more I think about this, I think you've hit the nail haven't you. There is no TH01 version of this tv... No matter what I do they won't sell me one will they? I bet they do whatever they can until I order a different model or cancel.
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I just got a un65h6203 delivered today which I purchased from the Dell home and office site.

The panel version is MH01, which appears to correspond to AUO, according to this site which sells parts for my TV:

http://www.tvserviceparts.com/UN65H6203AFXZA.html (scroll down and look at the panel, it says AUO next to it).

I'll report back in this thread when I check the service menu to find out for sure. I was unable to find much on google other than this page and a couple of other parts sites, so if I find that this is the case (and the MH* versions do correspond to AUO) hopefully others will see this.
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Anyone have any knowledge on TD01/02 Panels, currently in the 65" H8000? TS01/02 are in the 48" and 55" and have great blacks/uniformity/contrast but haven't heard too much on the 65" TD01/02. Sorry if this has been discussed before.
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I just purchased a un65h6300 with the AH01 product code. I counted 16 of them with only this code at my local costco. I also called to a nearby costco and was told all of theirs were AH01. Where are the other panel codes of this model in this size? I hope I did ok.
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If it looks good to you and you are happy then it's the perfect panel for you, and I wouldn't stress over what kind of panel it is. Even S-PVA panels can have issues from time to time. I think some folks just get too wound up in their quest for the perfect panel. Just enjoy your purchase.
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I'm not really too familiar with the whole panel lottery thing since i never owned a Samsung before but I do have a good insight of it. Tomorrow i'm thinking about getting a Samsung UN32EH5000 32 inch LED. From what I can see the S-PVA panel is something that I want to get. I'm going to Best Buy and going to try to give an associate some panel codes and see if they have them. If i'm understanding this, I want to ask for a panel code that starts with a T(TS0x,TH0x). I also read that a UU is also a Samsung panel but I am not exactly sure on that. So basically, I just want to get this TV with a TS0x or TH0x am I right? Am I missing anything else?Any extra help is appreciated.
Sammy Panel lottery is what kept me from buying a 2013 40" UN ES 5000/ 5500 series Samsung for my bedroom in 02 '14 .
I actually went to B.B intending to buy one . I visited the store earlier and saw one with a V.G. picture that
according to the label # after I looked it up at home had an Samsung SPVA panel .

The 40" Sammy 5xx,6xxx sets they had on display on this visit were very apparently to me not the same (or anywhere near as good ) as same model Sammys I saw earlier , different version #'s on the labels also . None in the back room to be found with the desirable box ver#'s in the back either.

I ended up going home and ordering a Sony KDL 40R450A on line (B.B. was out and did not have the 2014 Sony's or Samsung in yet .

I saw the 40" Sony R4 on a previous visit that was every bit as good if not just very slightly better the Samsung 5xxx 6xxx sets I saw at the same time .

Ironically the 2013 Sony 40R450 has a Samsung rear lit SPVA panel that panelook says is .022 black and 5000:1 contrast it has an excellent picture due in no small part to Samsung the panel ofc which I found out it had by going into the service menu .

The Sony R4 was startlingly better (and startlingly good ) after a DIY calibration in Cinema mode than out of the box also .

My Sammy 60f5300 plasma also has a real decent picture and is easily top dog here among 3 other LCD here all with Samsung SPVA panels with the #4 2013 LCD LG 42" IPS set bringing up the rear for night viewing but otherwise is real decent for daytime . The 40" Sony R4 is hands down top dog of the LCD's here .

The 40" Sony R4 has better contrast and blacks than 2014 Sony W600 and matches the larger screen 2014 W800/W850 Sony model blacks and contrast with their arguably very good AUO AMVA panels.

OTOH I'm sure a Samsung 5xxx with a decent Samsung SPVA or arguably most of the time very good AUO AMVA panel would have likewise been fine .

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I just got a un65h6203 delivered today which I purchased from the Dell home and office site.

The panel version is MH01, which appears to correspond to AUO, according to this site which sells parts for my TV:

http://www.tvserviceparts.com/UN65H6203AFXZA.html (scroll down and look at the panel, it says AUO next to it).

I'll report back in this thread when I check the service menu to find out for sure. I was unable to find much on google other than this page and a couple of other parts sites, so if I find that this is the case (and the MH* versions do correspond to AUO) hopefully others will see this.
Here is a panel lookup at panelook of a complete AUO panel assy. that arguably would have the same LCD cell
as the part you looked up http://www.panelook.com/T650HVN05.4_...iew_21015.html
not bad specs all in all .

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I just purchased a un65h6300 with the AH01 product code. I counted 16 of them with only this code at my local costco. I also called to a nearby costco and was told all of theirs were AH01. Where are the other panel codes of this model in this size? I hope I did ok.

I believe AHO1 are AUO A-MVA panels usually pretty decent Sony uses them in a lot of W800,W850 and above models .
The version no's below seem to indicate service menu version numbers that ofc would differ from not be found on box or set label .

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65EH6000 - MHXX - AU Optronics A-MVA
65EH6000 - YHXX - AU Optronics A-MVA - 65L in service menu
65FH6001 - MHXX - AU Optronics A-MVA
65F6350 - MSXX - AU Optronics A-MVA
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65F8000 - TDXX - Samsung S-PVA

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Hey
Looking at buying a 55, 60 or 65 h6400. Phoned a few local stores to check the version numbers of the display models
65h6400 md01
60h6400 hd01
55h6400 as01

Would appear these are au optronic or sharp
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Hi!

I am assessing to buy the UE32H5000 Samsung TV but cannot find a lot of info about how it performes against the F5000.

I checked the model in the shop, trhough service menu, and it brings a 32A6AF0V panel, so it's Samsung. I read in your post that the only difference with 32A6AF0S's F5000 lottery-won panel, is the backlit unit type (last letter).

What's the difference between "V" = Vertical Edge LED unit and S and "S" Side by side LED in terms of quality? Is the new brand lineup model panel equal or better than previous F5000?.

By the way, label in EU box only says: "Version: 01", no concrete code.

P.S: Can anybody please refer me or guide me to a place where to do an optimal calibration? I'm kind of a newbie on the topic.

Thanks!!
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@SamsungRocks : Yes, in Europe labels show nothing, you have to enter service menu (you asked the commercial?), or check for pixel pattern.

For calibration I followed this guide. Basically you point your colorimeter to the TV, and tweak settings until they look fine in HCFR.

What I wanted to ask is if it's true that entering Service Menu resets settings to factory, in such case I would understand the commercial doesn't let customers do this.
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@SamsungRocks : Yes, in Europe labels show nothing, you have to enter service menu (you asked the commercial?), or check for pixel pattern.

For calibration I followed URL. Basically you point your colorimeter to the TV, and tweak settings until they look fine in HCFR.

What I wanted to ask is if it's true that entering Service Menu resets settings to factory, in such case I would understand the commercial doesn't let customers do this.
Yes, I asked commercial. Are you sure? Powering it off directly after checking panel type did not seem to me it changed anything but I am not sure as we really did not zap. Perhaps they'll kill me next time they see me....

For the calibration, I don't have the money right now for that one-time investment provided I have to buy a TV , but I'm sure this topic can be useful if they kindly answer to understand what is every graph. (/1603953-samsung-unxxh5500-thread.html post)

Thanks for your help!! Just curious, any chance you know the differences accross both panels (especially whether Verticla Edge or Side by Side LED is preferrable)?
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I guess a bit of research will tell you.

I found this in my files:
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V - Vertical Edge LED (above and below)
S - Side by side LED (left & right)
I would think Vertical LED is better since it covers more area.
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