Originally Posted by bsandler
I just bought the Samsung UN55HU8550 version TH01
THE PANEL TYPES AND PANEL RATINGS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
- TH0x or TS0x: Samsung S-PVA panel (possibly just a PVA, if you're less lucky): This is what you thought you were buying. Best color, best black, best viewing angles.
- HS0x: Sharp ASV panel: Lower contrast ratio, more narrow viewing angle. I read HS02 in particular has terrible ghosting.
- A_0X: AOU A-MVA panel: Even lower contrast ratio.
- CH0x or CM0x or CS0x: Chimea S-MVA panel: You lost the lottery. Markedly worse in every way - way worse viewing angle, color reproduction, etc. Just a terrible rip-off.
- UPDATED 2014 July 17th: Quoting Dawn B. Roy, "Just remember A or M = AU Optronics, T, U, or W = Samsung, and H = Sharp. " I have not followed the comment thread (my apologies), and do not know if the stopped using Chimea panels
The version of the panel makes all the difference in picture quality. You will pay more for the THOx panels. At some retailers they list two different versions at different prices.
It's just those 'less-than-reputable' LOW BALL Sellers who advertise a 'too-good-to-be-true' price and then after they get you on their hook with an order, will need to up-sell you to a higher price.
They will even do this with models like the Samsung Flagship UNHU9000 which has only ever been manufactured with Samsung panels. They will also have a myriad of other lies & tricks up their sleeve to bump your price beyond what you might have paid an honest Dealer.
There have been reoprts from people who have persevered and actually been delivered something close to what was advertised. Often this has followed their posting a negative review followed by the seller offering a price as a bribe to revise their 'one-star' review up to 'five-stars'. Check the number of revised reviews online.
There is nothing wrong (even in Samsung's opinion) with a Dealer selling a TV at a price well below the Samsung Mandated "Advertised" price.
There are many very reputable Dealers including those Dealers who sponsor this AVS site
who will sell you a new Samsung at a price very likely below those dis-reputable sellers treading on peoples fears about "the Panel Lottery issue".
Originally Posted by Otto Pylot
I don't think that's accurate. I've seen different version numbers of the same model at a retailer and they were all the same price. Samsung is very secretive about the panels they use, hence the panel lottery, and most retailers haven't a clue as to what the version numbers mean. So it doesn't make sense from a business standpoint that there would be different prices based on the panel type. Color and black levels are very good on S-PVA panels but off-axis viewing can be horrendous.
It boils down to just the production date to determine which panel you might get. Samsung would not simultaneously manufacture a model with two different brand panels (or chipsets or whatever).
Of course, shortly after there has been a change, there may very likely be a choice available within a dealers stock and here is where it is so lucky to have sources like this to help you de-code that label on the outside of the box and tell you what you're getting.
On the other hand, for online ordering, you are likely to just get the next box that comes up in the shipping warehouse.
If you follow the AVS Samsung 8550/9000 Thread
, you will see that the owners of the 8550's with non-Samsung brand panels are quite pleased with them on the whole. It looks like a great many of the Panel 'issues' are very likely related to the handling of the box and care in transportation and setup, rather than defects in manufacturing or panel brands.
If it's really important for you to have a version that has been out-of-production for some time, your best option would be to get a dealer to sell you a 'display model'. This is a good choice at a lower cost,
but likely very fault-free. With the other choice of an "Open-Box" bargain; I would wonder why it was returned in the first place.
Edit:- Niceelectronics.com BBB Report
and "Reputable dealer? or scam?"
"...The 7 day defective exchange policy does not apply to TVs 37" and larger, any oversized product(s) shipped via our motor freight company (not UPS/FedEx), appliances or receivers. If any of these items are deemed defective, they will be covered exclusively by the manufacturers’ warranties, and you must contact the manufacturer for any repairs.
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UN50HU8550's have, until recently all been reported to have non-Samsung Panels (Innolux) and the owners love them. This "QH03" version Manufactured in December 2014 has not yet been identified as to details.
It has been reported that Samsung does not manufacture Any 60" panels at all.
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