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OP has been updated with pics of the 4- and 6-series.

You should add 65" for the Series 8 and 7 those were both confirmed at the show
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I looked at a lot of the news from CES and didn't see any mention of a Samsung set like the LN55c650 and other tube lit sets from 2010. Is Samsung only going LED for their larger sets?
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You should add 65" for the Series 8 and 7 those were both confirmed at the show

Done. I also added slides/images on "micro dimming" (very generic), the newer 3d glasses, and remotes.
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I looked at a lot of the news from CES and didn't see any mention of a Samsung set like the LN55c650 and other tube lit sets from 2010. Is Samsung only going LED for their larger sets?
I'm sure they will have ccfl TVs, they mostly only showed the high end TVs not much of the low end.
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I looked at a lot of the news from CES and didn't see any mention of a Samsung set like the LN55c650 and other tube lit sets from 2010. Is Samsung only going LED for their larger sets?
I think this a rapidly escalating trend across the industry. It's not really a matter of consumer choice. There are so many advantages to manufacturers that the only thing preventing complete conversion to LEDs is shortage of production, which is rapidly being corrected.
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Wow... these new LED sets look great (with SIDE-LIT lighting; all I can say is: Duh!). I was JUST about to pull the trigger (still might) on the LN55C750 (great combo deal from BB which includes a 3D BR Player, 4 glasses, and some movies), but now I might wait and take a look at these 2011 LED models.

So I too am wondering what the future of the LN series is. From what I saw, the price/performance of the LN55c750 beats the C7000 (LED with similar features) easily, so that begs the question for the 2011 stuff... will there be a LN55d750 (etc.)?

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I got one of the 65" un65c8000. Excellent tv!

According to some reports from the CES, the D8000 got much better viewing angle and black level comparing to the C8000. If true that would make UN65D8000 an ÜberTV!

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According to some reports from the CES, the D8000 got much better viewing angle and black level comparing to the C8000. If true that would make UN65D8000 an ÜberTV!

It's too bad I already purchased a UN55C8000 TV. Guess I gotta wait 2 or 3 years or maybe when one breaks.
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It's too bad I already purchased a UN55C8000 TV. Guess I gotta wait 2 or 3 years or maybe when one breaks.

I got the un46c8000, I normally don't upgrade my TV unless it breaks or I find a great deal. The wife n I are buying a new house, it has the perfect room for home theater in the basement. I've got big plans for that room, it's my excuse to upgrade my TV plus I really want a bigger TV. I love my c8000 but I want a bigger TV, I say find an excuse to get a new TV for yourself n just do it
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what is the life span of a regular hdtv?
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I'm holding on to hope that in not-too-distant future they will release a TV that has pixels all the way to the edge, with a purely glass front.

Video walls anyone? You can just buy the panels and build your HT for the size you need

Also, I'd imagine it would drive up their revenues as they would sell multiples of them...
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what is the life span of a regular hdtv?

The technology is changing so fast that we really don't know how long the sets being sold today should last, but a good guess is maybe 40,000-80,000 hours. That's a decade or more in most households. Many won't die, their performance will simply slowly deteriorate. In many, if not most cases, they will become outdated and replaced for that reason long before they quit. That's exactly what happened to my previous HDTV, a 2005 rear-projection.

Of course, the quality of build is also important. The above applies to brand-name sets. Cheaper ones will be more iffy.
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I got the un46c8000, I normally don't upgrade my TV unless it breaks or I find a great deal. The wife n I are buying a new house, it has the perfect room for home theater in the basement. I've got big plans for that room, it's my excuse to upgrade my TV plus I really want a bigger TV. I love my c8000 but I want a bigger TV, I say find an excuse to get a new TV for yourself n just do it

I don't think I have any excuses or money left to buy a 4th TV haha. I can't complain about my last purchase though. Can't beat paying only a little over $1200 for the UN55C8000.
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I don't think I have any excuses or money left to buy a 4th TV haha. I can't complain about my last purchase though. Can't beat paying only a little over $1200 for the UN55C8000.

How did you manage that!?

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How did you manage that!?

Amazon has a bundle for this TV including the 3d starter kit, wireless adapter, and 3d blu ray player. The total for this was a little over $2100 and some people who have Chase Amazon credit cards were given 20% off coupon on select TVs, blu ray players and etc. After all the costs is broken down and 20% applied, the TV itself was just a bit over $1200.
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I think this a rapidly escalating trend across the industry. It's not really a matter of consumer choice. There are so many advantages to manufacturers that the only thing preventing complete conversion to LEDs is shortage of production, which is rapidly being corrected.

yep, ccfl TVs are being fased out, that was a short cycle for sure.
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According to some reports from the CES, the D8000 got much better viewing angle and black level comparing to the C8000. If true that would make UN65D8000 an ÜberTV!

Well hopefully they can lower the price as the price of the current UN65C8000 is a little high......
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Amazon has a bundle for this TV including the 3d starter kit, wireless adapter, and 3d blu ray player. The total for this was a little over $2100 and some people who have Chase Amazon credit cards were given 20% off coupon on select TVs, blu ray players and etc. After all the costs is broken down and 20% applied, the TV itself was just a bit over $1200.

It's more like a bit over 1700 with free items, depending on how you look at it.
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It's more like a bit over 1700 with free items, depending on how you look at it.

That's true but when you break down the total price, individually, the TV does costs $1200 plus change. The other "free" items are not really free and do have an added cost to the final price. For example, the blu-ray player was out of stock and I've been waiting but it doesn't look like it'll be in stock soon. I canceled that and that saved me $223 with the final price being around $1500 for the TV, 3d kit, and wireless receiver.
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Well hopefully they can lower the price as the price of the current UN65C8000 is a little high......

If it is ÜberTV with PQ rivalling best plasma, it could be worth the price. And if it has those improvements over the C series it may rival plasma.

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If it is ÜberTV with PQ rivalling best plasma, it could be worth the price. And if it has those improvements over the C series it may rival plasma.

Because its edge lit I will never beat the best plasma, the micro dimming is just marketing BS, I have the c8000 and can tell you the precision dimming is marketing BS, its there but doesn't have any real world improvement. I can see how the new setup could help with flashlighting for letter box movies, but beyond that no real improvement. I do want one tho, I was looking into plasma but my brother uses my TV to watch Netflix shows with a lot of 4x3 content. That makes me nervous for IR and other issues, I know just kick him off it but he does 90% of this when I at work.
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Because its edge lit I will never beat the best plasma, the micro dimming is just marketing BS, I have the c8000 and can tell you the precision dimming is marketing BS, its there but doesn't have any real world improvement. I can see how the new setup could help with flashlighting for letter box movies, but beyond that no real improvement. I do want one tho, I was looking into plasma but my brother uses my TV to watch Netflix shows with a lot of 4x3 content. That makes me nervous for IR and other issues, I know just kick him off it but he does 90% of this when I at work.

You are sure? . I have the C8000, and the "pintpoint dimming" it´s NO marketing man, it´s real.
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Because its edge lit I will never beat the best plasma, the micro dimming is just marketing BS, I have the c8000 and can tell you the precision dimming is marketing BS, its there but doesn't have any real world improvement. I can see how the new setup could help with flashlighting for letter box movies, but beyond that no real improvement.

While your objections are understandable, it is likely that Samsung not only made formal change to side edges but also did significant modifications to the backlight distribution.

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You are sure? . I have the C8000, and the "pintpoint dimming" it´s NO marketing man, it´s real.

I'm not saying the c8000 dimming doesn't work, but it has no real world application. The dimming only works if half the screen is blacked out or credits rolling. In a full screen picture with anything displayed the leds have to be on. It isn't close to a full led locally dimmed TV. If you want to believe its improving black levels on a full pictures go ahead.


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While your objections are understandable, it is likely that Samsung not only made formal change to side edges but also did significant modifications to the backlight distribution.

I hope they did improve it overall at least for flashlighting, I don't see how the improvement will be a giant leap but it could be better.
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It isn't close to a full led locally dimmed TV. If you want to believe its improving black levels on a full pictures go ahead.

As there are more dimming levels than "On" and "Off" it improves black level and contrast even on full pictures. Sure, a full led can do it better - but the PD is for sure better than no dimming.
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As there are more dimming levels than "On" and "Off" it improves black level and contrast even on full pictures. Sure, a full led can do it better - but the PD is for sure better than no dimming.

One would think so, as far as the c8000 goes its on or off. I could be wrong, I had mine since last April, I don't see any improvement with the dimming turned on or off. I'm sure someone knows more then me and is more educated on these things. I just telling you from my personal use of my c8000 for 9 months. Don't get me wrong my TV has a great picture, I'm sure the d8000 will be the same. I'm not bashing the TVs just I believe the edge lit dimming is marketing mumbo jumbo, I plan on getting a d8000 when they come out.
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55" 47.94 26.96

Using the d7000 .2" bezel, I came up with 48.3125" overall width. This is just what I have been waitng for. Since they have gone to 55", none would fit too well in my custom Ent Center. This is smaller than my 52" RPTV Hitachi. I may just have to get one.
I hope the spec sheets come out soon so I can verify dimensions.
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OI don't see any improvement with the dimming turned on or off.

Than either your Set is broken or it has already reached the limits of your recognition :-).
Seriously, there is a difference between on and off. But Probably not anybody will realize as picture quality is always a subjective thing.
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Than either your Set is broken or it has already reached the limits of your recognition :-).
Seriously, there is a difference between on and off. But Probably not anybody will realize as picture quality is always a subjective thing.

My TV isn't broken, I'm not new to high-end electronics. I've worked selling and installing electronics for years. I will admit what I do now is the complete opposite. I just watched last night The Possession of David O'Reilly, most of this movie is at night in complete darkness. If you want to test your TVs dimming capabilities, black levels I highly recommend watching this movie in the dark. The dimming works just not as effective as a true local dimming TV would. If you have a c8000 its a great tv but could be better, I have one without flashlight or clouding issues. I'm really not trying to bash the TV, but if you truly believe the dimming works as advertise then great.
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Looking back through the lens of hindisght, the lack of the 60s and 65s should give one more than pause. They really didn't ship but a few thousand 65s in all of 2010. Will 2011 be different? Sure, but how different. Further certainty that the 75 is likely to be mythic this year.

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working.
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