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So is this true? We are hearing two different things, that its still being made and that it is being discontinued. Anybody have actual information about this? Everyone that I talk to says that it's still being made and to be released by may.

What's discontinued in Korea doesn't have too much bearing on what's marketed here. It's likely that LG will remain faithful to their CES press release and FCC-approved model designations.

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What's discontinued in Korea doesn't have too much bearing on what's marketed here. It's likely that LG will remain faithful to their CES press release and FCC-approved model designations.

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that makes sense I guess. Wonder why they would cancel it in Korea but not here. As long as it's a great picture and has a antireflective screen.

Anybody know if the lw9500 will have 2d to 3d conversion?
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Anybody know how effective the anti glare panel is on the lw9500? Does it look like a mirror in dark scenes?
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Is the 5700 model coming out in the US? It was in the new CES models and is like the 5600 but with a silver/gray? frame. Curious if this will be a regular retail model or maybe a warehouse club?
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that makes sense I guess. Wonder why they would cancel it in Korea but not here. As long as it's a great picture and has a antireflective screen.

Anybody know if the lw9500 will have 2d to 3d conversion?
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Yes it will offer 2D to 3D Conversion.
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i have had the lg 47lx6500 and it was really bd 3d. 2d was great, atleast i thought so. my problem is thet the lx6500 had to be reaired then needed repair again , then lg swapped me a 55 lx6500 that arrived broke. so now they are taking this tv back and giving me $1700.00 back. what tv would be best for me to buy? i am so confused, i think active is better , and lg says as much, but what active tv from lg can i afford now ? i already have the lg 3d blu ray player and 4 pair lg 3d glasses ?
please any help is appreciated. 47 inch or better is fine with me.
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I guess I need to have at least 3 post before posting URLs. Hopefully I can get around this by removing the "http://" from before the link.

Extraction from ces.cnet.com/8301-32254_1-20027259-283.html:

"Update March 18, 2011 LG has announced that [the LW9500 series], along with the LW7700 series, will use passive 3D technology and not active, as was originally indicated at CES 2011. Also, their release dates have been pushed back to the third quarter of the year. LG will not release any LED-based TVs in 2011 with active 3D, and these two Nano series will be the first LGs in 2011 with full-array local dimming backlights. We expect to hear more details closer to the products' launch."
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I guess I need to have at least 3 post before posting URLs. Hopefully I can get around this by removing the "http://" from before the link.

Extraction from ces.cnet.com/8301-32254_1-20027259-283.html:

"Update March 18, 2011 LG has announced that [the LW9500 series], along with the LW7700 series, will use passive 3D technology and not active, as was originally indicated at CES 2011. Also, their release dates have been pushed back to the third quarter of the year. LG will not release any LED-based TVs in 2011 with active 3D, and these two Nano series will be the first LGs in 2011 with full-array local dimming backlights. We expect to hear more details closer to the products' launch."

That is pretty awesome but I don't think I can wait until the 3rd quarter. Thanks for the link.
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Third quarter! Passive! Crap!

The pq on passive sets is terrible compared to active ones.
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Man, I don't want to wait that long either! Then again, if they mean early July, then that's not too bad, but if it's late September then that's a really long time.

This sudden slip in release dates would seem to corroborate the posts a couple pages back about there being problems with the LW9500 series. Somebody was saying that in Korea they are discontinuing the LW9500 right away and replacing it with a new model designated the LW9600. I'm guessing (hoping?) that since we are seeing a delay in the LW9500 release stateside, that our version will have whatever fixes they will be implementing in the Korean LW9600.
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Third quarter! Passive! Crap!

The pq on passive sets is terrible compared to active ones.

Just curious, where are you hearing the PQ on passive is terrible compared to active?
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Man, I don't want to wait that long either! Then again, if they mean early July, then that's not too bad, but if it's late September then that's a really long time.

This sudden slip in release dates would seem to corroborate the posts a couple pages back about there being problems with the LW9500 series. Somebody was saying that in Korea they are discontinuing the LW9500 right away and replacing it with a new model designated the LW9600. I'm guessing (hoping?) that since we are seeing a delay in the LW9500 release stateside, that our version will have whatever fixes they will be implementing in the Korean LW9600.
Looks like they are retaining the LW9500 model designation -

http://www.lg.com/ca_en/products/doc..._Sheet_ENG.pdf

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Just curious, where are you hearing the PQ on passive is terrible compared to active?
From the latest Sound and Vision Magazine.

"Passive technology, which is used in most 3D movie theaters, employs polarized lenses, much like sunglasses. Each eye's respective image is filtered in such a way that the lens for the opposite eye blocks it from view. The upsides are a potentially brighter picture, less chance of cross talk, and cheap. The downside is decreased resolution with TV's. With 3D movies on blu-ray disc, images are displayed using the Frame Sequential method, with the formats large storage capacity the bandwidth allowing for full rez 1080p left and right eye pictures to be sent a 24 frames per second rate. Cable and satellite aren't so lucky. They have to make do with much more limited bandwidth, so they use the Half resolution side-by-side and top-and-bottom formats. The side by side 3D format puts 960x1080-rez left and right images next to each other within the same video frame. With top and bottom, each frame consists of two stacked 1920x540 images. The TV shows the left/right images sequentially to create the 3D effect, stretching them out to fill the screen (liek scaling a dvd)."


So I guess if i stick to blu-ray only 3D I'll be fine. Which I might do (or have to do)

I forgot that part where they were denoting the problems to cable and what not only. MAH bad.

I wish i could have found that on their website so I didnt have to transcribe it all, lol.
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nony, by any chance do you also have the link to the specification for the LW7700 model too?

Thanks for the posting of the LW9500 specification sheet!
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Yeah, good deal nony, but I notices those all say that the wifi was built into the model. All the sites that have it up now say that it comes with an adapter.

Maybe yet another reason why it is being delayed.

I wish they announced the dimensions of the tv and bezel though lol

Edit: hmmm, on the top page it days the adapter is included, but the bottom page says built in.
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Which 2011 model will be the replacement for the XXLE8500 series? Looking for a set that has local dimming technology for gaming on.
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From the latest Sound and Vision Magazine.

"Passive technology, which is used in most 3D movie theaters, employs polarized lenses, much like sunglasses. Each eye's respective image is filtered in such a way that the lens for the opposite eye blocks it from view. The upsides are a potentially brighter picture, less chance of cross talk, and cheap. The downside is decreased resolution with TV's. With 3D movies on blu-ray disc, images are displayed using the Frame Sequential method, with the formats large storage capacity the bandwidth allowing for full rez 1080p left and right eye pictures to be sent a 24 frames per second rate. Cable and satellite aren't so lucky. They have to make do with much more limited bandwidth, so they use the Half resolution side-by-side and top-and-bottom formats. The side by side 3D format puts 960x1080-rez left and right images next to each other within the same video frame. With top and bottom, each frame consists of two stacked 1920x540 images. The TV shows the left/right images sequentially to create the 3D effect, stretching them out to fill the screen (liek scaling a dvd)."


So I guess if i stick to blu-ray only 3D I'll be fine. Which I might do (or have to do)

I forgot that part where they were denoting the problems to cable and what not only. MAH bad.

I wish i could have found that on their website so I didnt have to transcribe it all, lol.

...and that equates to "terrible" and "crap"?
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...and that equates to "terrible" and "crap"?

DVD quality 3D would be terrible.

And the Crap was that the tv was coming out so lates.

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I agree that a Q3 release blows but it's not that uncommon on high end models, especially with LG. The passive 3D may not be full reolution but the folks that have it aren't really complaining that the resolution is ruining the experience and most really like it. You might as well get used to it because everything is trending towards passive and the offerings with active will be significantly less this time next year.
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They should have just said Q3 to begin with as it would give a time frame like last year. I wonder if the 2D to 3D conversion will be bad or good on the passive tv set.

they did say that blu-ray 3D movies should be full resolution. Meaning it would be in general better than active.
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Hey Mexi, both passive LG sets are officially out (5600 and 6500). You are thinking about the 7700/9500 series which are not passive and come out later in the year. I don't think it's fair to post impressions of a television you have never even seen before in person, let alone have not even read a legit review about. Chad B. has already posted his review of the 5600 series and it was quite positive.

This thread is stricly for facts and information. If you have impressions that would be great. If you have official dates/news, that would be great. If you have nasty rumors or intend to bad mouth a company, this is not the place. It should not be a surprise or shocker that the high end models will come out later in the year.. this has been the pattern for a long time.
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Hey Mexi, both passive LG sets are officially out (5600 and 6500). You are thinking about the 7700/9500 series which are not passive and come out later in the year. I don't think it's fair to post impressions of a television you have never even seen before in person, let alone have not even read a legit review about. Chad B. has already posted his review of the 5600 series and it was quite positive.

This thread is stricly for facts and information. If you have impressions that would be great. If you have official dates/news, that would be great. If you have nasty rumors or intend to bad mouth a company, this is not the place. It should not be a surprise or shocker that the high end models will come out later in the year.. this has been the pattern for a long time.

Check out post 277 budday.
http://ces.cnet.com/8301-32254_1-20027259-283.html


And I have yet to bad mouth anything. I plan on getting the LW9500.the stuff I posted about passive vs active was from an article in sound+vision mag
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Interesting development with "LG will not release any LED-based TVs in 2011 with active 3D". It maybe not as surprising given the results of the customer research LG has presented earlier in the year, where most of the respondents preferred their passive technology
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Interesting development with "LG will not release any LED-based TVs in 2011 with active 3D". It maybe not as surprising given the results of the customer research LG has presented earlier in the year, where most of the respondents preferred their passive technology

In European markets, LG will certainly "release" the 47/55LEX8 models which are equipped with active 3d tech and matte screens.

Do we know for a fact that in North America, the 72LZ9700-UA will not ship with active tech and glossy screens?

Note that the LW9500/LW7700 series need to be equipped with FPR-enabled LCMs and these panels may turn out to have matte screens.

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In European markets, LG will certainly "release" the 47/55LEX8 models which are equipped with active 3d tech and matte screens.

Do we know for a fact that in North America, the 72LZ9700-UA will not ship with active tech and glossy screens?

Note that the LW9500/LW7700 series need to be equipped with FPR-enabled LCMs and these panels may turn out to have matte screens.

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Thanks, nony. The wait isn't the best news ("thanks, Captain Obvious"), but if the LW7700/LW9500 series are as solid as the prototypes looked then they will be worth it. Personally, I'm happier that they'll be passive 3D; I really don't care about 3D anyway and feel like the passive tech may keep the price points down a bit (even if it's a couple hundred bucks).

It's not like there is a huge selection of full array sets to choose from, so again it may be well worth holding out if this feature is key for you.
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Note that the LW9500/LW7700 series need to be equipped with FPR-enabled LCMs and these panels may turn out to have matte screens.

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The 7700 was supposed to have a matte screen all along. In fact, I'm hoping the switch to passive doesn't mean it will wind up being glossy.

The 7700's matte screen was the main reason I'd selected it. But I'm not sure I want to wait until Q3... Is there any matte screen with local dimming coming from anybody in the next couple of months?
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Third quarter! Passive! Crap!

The pq on passive sets is terrible compared to active ones.
Don't know if I would call it crap, but IMHO it's not as good as active. I saw the LW5600 at BB this weekend. The cool part was I took the Real 3D glasses from the movie theater in and they worked just fine. I think LG needs to put out a much better demo if they want to impress people though. It was looping several things and the most impressive was the IMAX Under the Sea 3D demo, but it was also the least impressive. I swear there were fish coming 5' out of the TV, but the bad part was the corners were very blurry.

Other things I noticed were the farther away the better. Close up it had a screen door effect with any content. I questioned the source material and they put in Monster House. It looked much better, but not as good as the passive sets. However, you sure can't beat the price of the glasses.

Overall I can't say I hate it, but I can't say I liked it. I will wait to view a higher end model.

I also checked out the Samsung D7000 and Panasonic I think ST30. Both very impressive 3D from any distance.

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The 7700 was supposed to have a matte screen all along. In fact, I'm hoping the switch to passive doesn't mean it will wind up being glossy.

In the EU we already have a passive 3D LG CCFL backlit TV, and it is semiglossy, if that is anything to go by.

It seems a bit unfair that if you want a top spec 2D TV, then you end up having to fork out for a 3D TV, which probably won't do 3D as well as for eg. Panasonic plasma, like 3D is being forced down your throats, and we are paying through our noses for the R+D of 3D tech that we may not want to buy in to.
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Does anyone know if the change from active to passive 3D for LW9500 is confirmed for US and release date has changed to the fall?

http://ces.cnet.com/8301-32254_1-20027259-283.html

Also, will this model only be available as 55" and 60"? I thought I read somewhere that it would also be 47".

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Don't know if I would call it crap, but IMHO it's not as good as active. I saw the LW5600 at BB this weekend. The cool part was I took the Real 3D glasses from the movie theater in and they worked just fine.

Other things I noticed were the farther away the better. Close up it had a screen door effect with any content. I questioned the source material and they put in Monster House. It looked much better, but not as good as the passive sets. However, you sure can't beat the price of the glasses.

i thought that model was the passive set?

And as mentioned from S+V, as long as it is from blu-ray source(correctly made 3D movie as well), passive 3D should really be equal to or better than Active.
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