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Anyone know when Sharp usually releases their lineup? I'm looking at the 80", but don't wan't to buy if something new will be out in a few months. If it's more then 5 months, I don't think I can wait and will just get the Sharp.
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Anyone know when Sharp usually releases their lineup? I'm looking at the 80", but don't wan't to buy if something new will be out in a few months. If it's more then 5 months, I don't think I can wait and will just get the Sharp.

Usually 4-6 months after ces so June July time frame
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Historically, go back a mere 8 years and you'll be reminded that the largest LCD was a 45" Sharp with a MSRP of about $7K. Since that time the bar has risen significantly and yesterday's monster at 45" is todays weenie HT and selling for about $500 as manufacturing has adapted and evolved.

Also take into account the RPTV market which was strong as hell then and those owners which span a few decades have an alternative that fills their HT void in size and improved PQ and value. We've come a long way in such a short time and the difference is Sharp spent the 5.5 billion to be where they are and if you studied Sharps history they virtually invested everything they had into LCD. Today Sharp is trying to protect what they have in Saiki as China wants them to build a duplicate in their country but so far Sharp has refused and wants to limit China to 8G Fabs. The market will evolve but Sharp has flowed with it by retrofitting and repurposing K1,K2 for tablets and smart phones also and the Mexico Plant has always had the capacity to build budget line larger glass I believe. Sharp has proven itself in 2011 by streaming 70+" variable types/sizes and was never any promo of an 80" at CES last year. Who knows what they have on the plate for 2012?

Samsung 75" can be had for $10K-$13K but it remains edge lit and way out of consumers affordability target - it truly is a Niche panel whereas Sharp has an entire line that fall within affordability at prices a 52" used to sell for higher. Sharp is not standing still but they just planned better for the future IMO and now reaping the rewards of the $5.5 billion just as when they went all in with LCD in it's beginnings when they transitioned from a budget line consumer tube TV selling at K-mart et al.


Where can the Samsung 75" be had? not in the usa...
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Where can the Samsung 75" be had? not in the usa...

Not entirely clear it can be bought in Korea, even.

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. (Oh, and plasma didn't die because of logistics problems, nor does OLED ship in big boxes because it comes from Korea.)
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News from Sharp on 70 and 80" sets...

80" now with 3D - $6,499
70" now with Local Dimming - no price mentioned

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/09/s...tvs/#continued


9 Series
Quattron Quad Pixel Plus II
Local dimming
3D 240Hz
LC-60LE945U; LC-70LE945U
Available this Summer

8 Series
3D 240Hz
LC-60LE847U, $3,199; LC-70LE847U, $4,199; LC-80LE844U, $6,499
Available in April


7 Series
3D 120Hz
LC-60LE745U, $2,699; LC-70LE745U, $3,599
Available in March

5/6 Series
No 3D 120Hz
LC-52LE640U, $1,699; LC-60LE640U, $2,699; LC-70LE640U, $3,299
Available in March
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Happy for Sharp. Curious as to what other companies will show
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Samsung has more or less again announced the following: "We will make one and only one LCD model over 60"; it will be our low production model in our most expensive line".

I would take any of their demos or claims of a larger than 65" with a bucket of salt and assume the worst on pricing. They are currently ceding this market to Sharp, presumably due to (a) fab constraints on producing other sizes well (see irkuck's comments dating back a year, et al.) (b) other fish to fry.

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. (Oh, and plasma didn't die because of logistics problems, nor does OLED ship in big boxes because it comes from Korea.)
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^^ looks like Sammy will be focusing on OLED. If there's any huge size volume LCD from them, it will be from China, if ever.

Sammy just reported record sales last Friday. Detailed breakdown will be 2 weeks from now but I suspect LCD will only be marginally profitable, which is above industry.

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News from Sharp on 70 and 80" sets...

80" now with 3D - $6,499
70" now with Local Dimming - no price mentioned

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/09/s...tvs/#continued

9 Series
Quattron Quad Pixel Plus II
Local dimming
3D 240Hz
LC-60LE945U; LC-70LE945U
Available this Summer

8 Series
3D 240Hz
LC-60LE847U, $3,199; LC-70LE847U, $4,199; LC-80LE844U, $6,499
Available in April

7 Series
3D 120Hz
LC-60LE745U, $2,699; LC-70LE745U, $3,599
Available in March

5/6 Series
No 3D 120Hz
LC-52LE640U, $1,699; LC-60LE640U, $2,699; LC-70LE640U, $3,299
Available in March

Thanks and as discussed, I would expect Sharp's 70" ASP for street price to incrementally increase from 732. It will be a good year for Sharp.
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I have the Sharp 70" Model 33. My cable service is Time Warner. When I'm watching TV and I have some saved programming and fast forward through a commercial, my TV will start the FF, then black out, continue the FF, then maybe black out again. What causes the blacking out, and is there anything that can be done about it? Thanks.
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We all know that LG is planning to launch an 84" 4K UDTV sometime in the second half of this year. But I'm curious if a 72" model is being released around the same time. The reason is I just read two articles that state that LG is releasing not only the 84" this year, but also a 72" and a 60" that are 4K.

4K sets officially arrive

LG Shows off Ultra Def
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We all know that LG is planning to launch an 84" 4K UDTV sometime in the second half of this year. But I'm curious if a 72" model is being released around the same time. The reason is I just read two articles that state that LG is releasing not only the 84" this year, but also a 72" and a 60" that are 4K.

4K sets officially arrive

LG Shows off Ultra Def

Please allow me to edit your first sentence, no malice is intended.

Instead of "We all know", I'd like to change it to "We've all heard", because with LG's past history, we really don't know what if any of those products will actually make it to the stores.

After all these years, I don't operate on faith.
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Please allow me to edit your first sentence, no malice is intended.

Instead of "We all know", I'd like to change it to "We've all heard", because with LG's past history, we really don't know what if any of those products will actually make it to the stores.

After all these years, I don't operate on faith.

Well actually my first sentence is correct, as planning doesn't mean actually doing. And you're right, LG has been notorious at promising and never releasing. Here's hoping they actually release these TV's this year!
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Well actually my first sentence is correct, as planning doesn't mean actually doing. And you're right, LG has been notorious at promising and never releasing. Here's hoping they actually release these TV's this year!

Yes, it would be great if it happens!
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Here we go again:

Vizio to ship ultra-wide-screen TVs by February

http://news.yahoo.com/vizio-to-ship-...-february.html

I've been waiting for the 71" model since last year (or the 72" model announced in 2010) but I'm not holding my breath.

At least I've set aside some $$$ so if another 70" comes along with passive 3D and local dimming I might jump on it.
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Here we go again:

Vizio to ship ultra-wide-screen TVs by February

http://news.yahoo.com/vizio-to-ship-...-february.html

I've been waiting for the 71" model since last year (or the 72" model announced in 2010) but I'm not holding my breath.

At least I've set aside some $$$ so if another 70" comes along with passive 3D and local dimming I might jump on it.

Tempting thought, but (a) it'll be stupendously expensive, and (b) there's a LOT more 1.85:1 content out there than 2.35:1 content, so you'll have black bars on the side of your really expensive 50" TV (effective size) for a majority of the time, and will only get to enjoy the full size for watching movies that are 2.35:1 (which is nowhere near all of them).

For a projector, where screen sizes are almost unlimited, I get the attraction of a 2.35:1 screen. Also more likely to watch mostly "event-class" movies on a projector, as opposed to mixed-content viewing on a regular TV. But I think, for now, the sweet spot for regular TV's is still the 1.85:1 aspect ratio (standard HDTV ratio, and standard ratio for a lot of movies).

I don't get the comment about "black bars" being encoded into the 1080 lines of resolution on blu rays. To my knowledge, that's simply not true, outside of occasional oddball exceptions, perhaps. Standard Anamorphic techniques, just like on DVDs, fill the screen with the content on the disc, and the player adds the black bars (or sometimes the TV does). The disc content should not have any black encoded into the file, however. It sure doesn't on the discs that I've ripped and played back off the computer. It is possible, however, that some players will need a firmware update to know how to send the proper signal to the ultra-wide-screen displays, however, since most players only seem to know about 4:3 and 16:9 displays.
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Here we go again:

Vizio to ship ultra-wide-screen TVs by February

http://news.yahoo.com/vizio-to-ship-...-february.html

I've been waiting for the 71" model since last year (or the 72" model announced in 2010) but I'm not holding my breath.

At least I've set aside some $$$ so if another 70" comes along with passive 3D and local dimming I might jump on it.

Yep,,,, I remember seeing those TV's in person at the 2010 and 2011 CES shows and then NEVER seeing them ever again.

Vizio does like to show off stuff at CES that never gets released,,,

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News from Sharp on 70 and 80" sets...

80" now with 3D - $6,499
70" now with Local Dimming - no price mentioned

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/09/s...tvs/#continued

9 Series
Quattron Quad Pixel Plus II
Local dimming
3D 240Hz
LC-60LE945U; LC-70LE945U
Available this Summer

8 Series
3D 240Hz
LC-60LE847U, $3,199; LC-70LE847U, $4,199; LC-80LE844U, $6,499
Available in April

7 Series
3D 120Hz
LC-60LE745U, $2,699; LC-70LE745U, $3,599
Available in March

5/6 Series
No 3D 120Hz
LC-52LE640U, $1,699; LC-60LE640U, $2,699; LC-70LE640U, $3,299
Available in March

Looks like sharp has all the angles covered. 3d 80" is big news but i hope the tv case/frame aesthetics looks better then current sharp 80" which looks cheap.

Also 70" with local dimming is big but seems it would compete with their 70" elite and makes me wonder if they will discontinue the elite or do a new one next year.

What would be a good set to upgrade to from a samsung un65c8000? I can go up to 80" i think without having to move my lefft and right wall mounted speakers upstairs but probably max out at 70 for basement with the current setup of wall mounted speakers and cabunets, glass shelf etc.

I still have buy back program (free promotion when it first csme out in which best buy will buy back the tv for a certain % of price paid depending how long its been up to 4 yrs i think) on the 65c8000 but want to get it or its replacement wall mounted soon so have to decide fast. Already have 3d glasses for it though and nothing upcoming sounds like its going to work for me and i like hsving ine samsung one sharp elite but just wiondering if there is sometnimg out now or soon worth making use of the buyback program i have for the 65c8000 in which i tnink i csn still currently get back more then 50% of what i paid a couole years ago. I csn probanky get the 65d8000 withlut much or any cost but it sems modtly the same as 65c amd coukd take a few tries to get a good one. As i was lucky enough to get a good 65c8000 on 2nd try a couple years ago while some ppl tried 5+ times and the fact thwt i like the 65c800, i guess i snouod just keep it but feel loke im wastimg the buyback. Shame samsung never released the 75"
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Looks like sharp has all the angles covered. 3d 80" is big news but i hope the tv case/frame aesthetics looks better then current sharp 80" which looks cheap.

Also 70" with locsl dimming is big but seems it would compete with their 70" elite and makes me wonder if they will discontinue the elite or do a new one next year.

What would be a good set to upgrade to from a samsung un65c8000? I can go up to 80" i think without having to move my lefft and right wall mounted speakers upstairs but probably max out at 70 for basement with the current setup of wall mounted speakers and cabunets, glass shelf etc.

I still have buy back program (free promotion when it forst csme out in which best buy will buy back the tv for a certwin % of price paid dependong how long its been up to 4 yrs i think) on the 65c8000 but want to get it or its replacement wall mounted soon so have to decide fast. Already have 3d glasses for it though and nothing upcoming sounds like its going to work for me and i like hsving ine samsung one sharp elite but just wiondering if there is sometnimg out now or soon worth making use of the buyback program i have for the 65c8000 in which i tnink i csn still currently get back more then 50% of what i paid a couole years ago. I csn probanky get the 65d8000 withlut much or any cost but it sems modtly the same as 65c amd coukd take a few tries to get a good one. As i was lucky enough to get a good 65c8000 on 2nd try a couple years ago while some ppl tried 5+ times and the fact thwt i like the 65c800, i guess i snouod just keep it but feel loke im wastimg the buyback. Shame samsung never released the 75"

No offense but the BB buy back program has to be one of the biggest rip off's out there.

And if your worried about what the case/frame looks like.....well I am going to shut my mouth on that one
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No offense but the BB buy back program has to be one of the biggest rip off's out there.

And if your worried about what the case/frame looks like.....well I am going to shut my mouth on that one

I got the buyback free but wanted to make use of it being the 65c8000 was first sam 65" so was perfect for buyback. Meanwhioe the 65d800 ismt much improved though. Aesthetics is always a factor. The samsungs like 65c/d8000 are thinner and do look 10x better hanging on the wall then say the Sharp 70" (735 etc.)

Also the question was:

Is there any tv 65" or larger really worth trading in the 65c8000 for? Kind of want to stay samsung though and actually the 65d8000 like all D series uses comoletely different 3d glasses (bluetooth) then c series of which i already have 5 pairs and neither c or d series sam 3d glasses are backwarss compatable. So i guess ill just keep the 65c8000, meh.
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I got the buyback free but wanted to make use of it being the 65c8000 was first sam 65" so was perfect for buyback. Meanwhioe the 65d800 ismt much improved though. Aesthetics is always a factor. The samsungs like 65c/d8000 are thinner and do look 10x better hanging on the wall then say the Sharp 70" (735 etc.)

Also the question was:

Is there any tv 65" or larger really worth trading in the 65c8000 for? Kind of want to stay samsung though and actually the 65d8000 like all D series uses comoletely different 3d glasses (bluetooth) then c series of which i already have 5 pairs and neither c or d series sam 3d glasses are backwarss compatable. So i guess ill just keep the 65c8000, meh.

Sell your tv privately, you will be much better off. Get an Elite. Blow the socks off the samsung
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Sell your tv privately, you will be much better off. Get an Elite. Blow the socks off the samsung

have elite 70" but looking to possibly replace the 65c8000 in another room. will probably stick with it though as I like the picture or just get the 65D8000 if i can for no extra cost even exchange.
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Problems are mounting at Sharp with possible consequences for this year lineup: huge net loss, production cut by half.

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If you notice sales for 60 and above remain.robust..the plant where they are reducing.production is for 40 inch panels. Sounds.like sharp is going to hinge a lot of its success.on bigger models. And.if nothing else, possible lower prices for us
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Meanwhile, they seem to be busy in pushing the 60, 70 and 80 panels for signage (industrial) purposes in Europe:

Sharp presents new XXL signage (industrial) display solutions
Date Announced: 27 Jan 2012
Hamburg – For the start of the year, Sharp presents a new series with around a dozen large-format TFT LCD modules for e-Signage applications. In doing so, the company is concentrating on diagonals of 60, 70, and 80 inches that Sharp, thanks to the first and internationally thus far the only 10th generation LCD factory, can produce very efficiently.

The displays of the new series are designed for the special requirements of digital signage applications and therefore offer a lifespan, depending on the model, of up to 60,000 hours of 24/7 continuous operation and, for the most part, an extended range of operating temperatures from 0° to 50°C. The most state-of-the-art technology from the development of TV ensures the brilliant image resolution. This includes Sharp's proprietary UV2A process (which guarantees a wide viewing angle and high contrast conditions), Full HD with 1920 x 1080 pixels as standard resolution, Quattron technology for some models with yellow as an additional subpixel, and LED-based background lighting for all displays. Through local dimming, it not only allows the targeted increase of contrast to 1 million: 1 but rather it is also the basis for the screen's high energy efficiency. For many models of the series, the drivers for LED backlighting and pulse-width modulation dimming are already integrated.

The new e-Signage model series includes firstly numerous standard TFT LCD modules of the types LK600D3LBX, LK695D3LBX, and LK800D3LBX in brightness levels of 350 cd/m², 500 cd/m² and 700 cd/m². In addition, Sharp offers numerous special models:

Suited especially for outside e-Signage applications are the 60 and 70 inch high-brightness models LK600D3LB14, LD600D3LH1, and LD700D3LH1, which, thanks to their brightness of up to 2,000 cd/m² are easy to read even in bright daylight. The integrated dimming capability makes it simple to adjust the display to lower levels of ambient light, which keep the average energy consumption within limits, despite the high backlight performance,

For applications that require an especially high resolution, like the imaging methods of medical diagnostics or special monitors in the movie and advertising industry, Sharp has Ultra High Resolution LCD panels available that, with 3840 x 2160 pixels, have more than four times the resolution of Full HD. Currently, the portfolio includes two models (types LK601R3LA19, LQ315D1LG91) with 60 and 31.5 inch screens; a 70 inch variant and an improved 60 inch variant are being planned for the second half of the year.

With two super narrow bezel TFT LCDs with a brightness of 1,500 cd/m² and 700 cd/m² and 60 inch diagonal screens, Sharp also offers displays that are especially suited to design monitors for the construction of video walls. Because of their special chassis, the modules have an asymmetrical frame with a thickness of only 2.4 mm and 4.1 mm, each on two sides, which leads to a total ligament width of 6.5 mm. This allows for the modular construction of almost seamless large-scale displays in any desired size.

Availability
Models of the standard displays of types LK600D3LBX, LK695D3LBX, and LK800D3LBX can be obtained from Sharp sales offices in Europe and through distribution partners. Series production starts successively in the first quarter of 2012.

Models of the narrow bezel LCDs, the LK601R3LA19 and LQ315D1LG91 Ultra High Resolution Displays, and the LK600D3LB14 60 inch high-brightness display are also already available. The series production of these types also begins successively in the first quarter of 2012.
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Problems are mounting at Sharp with possible consequences for this year lineup: huge net loss, production cut by half.

Contrary to the way the news is implying this, the plant they are cutting production on is the Sakai plant -- the new 10G one. Now, saying that, it's possible they told the media / analysts that the line they were shutting down is the one producing 40-inch panels, which led to the statements in the news reports.

They did lose a lot of money, but the question is: Doing what? I know you think they lost money selling 70" TVs, but that seems very unlikely. First of all, they only sold about 300,000 of them last year. Second of all, they had the market to themselves. Do you really believe they priced a market where they have a monopoly to lose money on every unit?

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. (Oh, and plasma didn't die because of logistics problems, nor does OLED ship in big boxes because it comes from Korea.)
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Contrary to the way the news is implying this, the plant they are cutting production on is the Sakai plant -- the new 10G one. Now, saying that, it's possible they told the media / analysts that the line they were shutting down is the one producing 40-inch panels, which led to the statements in the news reports.

They did lose a lot of money, but the question is: Doing what? I know you think they lost money selling 70" TVs, but that seems very unlikely. First of all, they only sold about 300,000 of them last year. Second of all, they had the market to themselves. Do you really believe they priced a market where they have a monopoly to lose money on every unit?

As you say production of monster TVs is only this big. You can not sustain on it even if it is profitable. The real question now is if Sharp is on the death spiral: They can not compete in smaller size segments, the monster segment is too small, general economic outlook is not sunny and another huge problem is their big solar panel business where Chinese are undercutting them terribly. Sharp looks like the next Sony but falling faster.

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Contrary to the way the news is implying this, the plant they are cutting production on is the Sakai plant -- the new 10G one. Now, saying that, it's possible they told the media / analysts that the line they were shutting down is the one producing 40-inch panels, which led to the statements in the news reports.

They did lose a lot of money, but the question is: Doing what? I know you think they lost money selling 70" TVs, but that seems very unlikely. First of all, they only sold about 300,000 of them last year. Second of all, they had the market to themselves. Do you really believe they priced a market where they have a monopoly to lose money on every unit?

Note that accounting reversal of tax deferred asset is almost JPY120b

"Management lowered its full-year net profit forecast by ¥296 billion, of which declines in sales and prices of LCD panels, LCD TVs, cell phones, and solar cells account for ¥82.4 billion, restructuring costs and an increase in non-utilization losses ¥39.1 billion (¥28 billion for LCDs, ¥11.1 billion for solar cells), inventory valuation losses ¥44 billion, and settlement costs and reversals of deferred tax assets ¥130.5 billion. Impairment losses on the Sakai plant are not included" -JPM

I am not surprised that they will kitchen sink FY2011 end March, as they have been doing in the past 2 quarters. I am also not surprised that 8G utilisation will be lower as they convert to IGZO for iPad, and there had been issues, with shipment delayed from December to February.

What I am surprised is that they are cutting 10G utilisation by half. Makes no sense unless they are converting the lines to 4k.

I had expected they will be profitable in the TV business in FY12. Looks shaky now and am puzzled like the other analysts. Don't think anyone is really sure what is happening.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...write-off.html
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Note that accounting reversal of tax deferred asset is almost JPY120b

"Management lowered its full-year net profit forecast by ¥296 billion, of which declines in sales and prices of LCD panels, LCD TVs, cell phones, and solar cells account for ¥82.4 billion, restructuring costs and an increase in non-utilization losses ¥39.1 billion (¥28 billion for LCDs, ¥11.1 billion for solar cells), inventory valuation losses ¥44 billion, and settlement costs and reversals of deferred tax assets ¥130.5 billion. Impairment losses on the Sakai plant are not included" -JPM

I am not surprised that they will kitchen sink FY2011 end March, as they have been doing in the past 2 quarters. I am also not surprised that 8G utilisation will be lower as they convert to IGZO for iPad, and there had been issues, with shipment delayed from December to February.

What I am surprised is that they are cutting 10G utilisation by half. Makes no sense unless they are converting the lines to 4k.

I had expected they will be profitable in the TV business in FY12. Looks shaky now and am puzzled like the other analysts. Don't think anyone is really sure what is happening.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...write-off.html

I think that's exactly what they are doing. I don't have the link, but i read an article couple days ago that stated Sharp was looking at utilizing the plant to start production on higher res panels.
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Back to the 70" Sharps in general. People ask me me questions that seem pretty simple but I do not have a definitive answer. So please bare with me if they seem silly. Regarding 2D PQ. Does the 735 deliver better 2D PQ than the 732? For the new 2012 year what kind of trickle down do you see happening if any? Is Sharp 100% committed to passive technology for their LCD's?
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Back to the 70" Sharps in general. People ask me me questions that seem pretty simple but I do not have a definitive answer. So please bare with me if they seem silly. Regarding 2D PQ. Does the 735 deliver better 2D PQ than the 732?

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For the new 2012 year what kind of trickle down do you see happening if any? Is Sharp 100% committed to passive technology for their LCD's?

No.

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. (Oh, and plasma didn't die because of logistics problems, nor does OLED ship in big boxes because it comes from Korea.)
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