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buddhamonk's Avatar buddhamonk 04:43 PM 05-08-2011
If there's any owners of the HX929 on this thread could you please do a proper lag test for the tv which compares it to a crt (make sure the tv is set to game-mode original when comparing). This is the only thing which is holding me back from deciding between the hx929 and the d8000. Thanks in advance....i'm sure the lag test will help a lot of people out.

theblackkeys's Avatar theblackkeys 05:15 PM 05-08-2011
I can tell you that Samsung always has higher lag than most other companies.
Do-It-Yourself's Avatar Do-It-Yourself 05:32 PM 05-08-2011
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I can tell you that Samsung always has higher lag than most other companies.

Most, if not all Samsung displays have the highest input lag. So it's reasonable enough to say that the HX929 will best the D8000 for sure.
buddhamonk's Avatar buddhamonk 05:54 PM 05-08-2011
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Originally Posted by Do-It-Yourself View Post

Most, if not all Samsung displays have the highest input lag. So it's reasonable enough to say that the HX929 will best the D8000 for sure.


Yea I assumed that, but I heard that the Hx909 wasn't that great for input lag, so i'm interested to know if the 929 has improved. Also, I think the 3d on the d8000 is supposed to be really good, i'd like to know how the HX929 compares. Sony should really have the best tv's for input lag since they are a videogame company.
Name|ess's Avatar Name|ess 06:52 PM 05-08-2011
I own the HX909 and the video gaming input lag is not bad even with all the processing features in tact. I play online shooters and did not run into any issues related to image lag.

I would hope the HX929 would only be an improvement...
bpmurr's Avatar bpmurr 07:16 PM 05-08-2011
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Originally Posted by Do-It-Yourself View Post

Most, if not all Samsung displays have the highest input lag. So it's reasonable enough to say that the HX929 will best the D8000 for sure.

I had no issues with gaming on my D8000. I used Game Mode but there is enough picture control available to get a good picture and about 48ms times. I would hope the HX929 would be around the same.
Fordlightning's Avatar Fordlightning 07:55 PM 05-08-2011
Just got done bugging sony support about type panel it has. Said it has IPS.
Here is my chat log.

user BJ has entered room

analyst Edgar_ has entered room

Edgar_> Hi. Welcome to Sony Online Support. I'm Edgar. Please allow me a moment to review your concern.

BJ> hello edgar

Edgar_> Thanks for waiting. I'll be glad to assist you with the information about the LCD panel of TV.

BJ> Great. I think know the 2 companys sony uses(samsung or sharp). But I was wanting to know if has IPS or AMVA5 panel?

Edgar_> I'm sorry for the delay.

BJ> np

BJ> worth the wait to find out

Edgar_> The type of the LCD panel used in XBR46HX929 is LED HD.

BJ> I know that. I want to know the type of the panel. IPS or AMVA5. To know it's performance and angle can see the picture from the side.

BJ> Alot rummers floating around. I have one order and should be at my place by friday. Like to know.

Edgar_> The type of the LCD panel of XBR46HX929 is ISP with Viewing Angle (Right/Left) : 178 (89/89) and Viewing Angle (Up/Down) : 178 (89/89)

BJ> Thanks. I had hoped for the amva5. But nice to kow what I am getting. thanks for your help Edgar.

Edgar_> You are welcome.

BJ> Know if it's the sam or sharp panel? If can say.

Edgar_> The OptiContrast Panel isSony's exclusive panel technology boosts contrast and brightness, making for an enhanced viewing experience.

BJ> Thanks Edgar. i take that as not able say who made the panel. Again thanks for your help tonight.

Edgar_> You are welcome.

Edgar_> It has been a pleasure to assist you.
tory40's Avatar tory40 08:09 PM 05-08-2011
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Video Signal : 1080/24p (HDMI only), 1080/60i, 1080/60p (HDMI / Component), 720/60p, 480/60i, 480/60p

Can anyone check their manual and say whether or not the HX929 does 3D games at 60hz in 1080p?
Viper2847's Avatar Viper2847 08:19 PM 05-08-2011
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Originally Posted by Name|ess View Post

I own the HX909 and the video gaming input lag is not bad even with all the processing features in tact. I play online shooters and did not run into any issues related to image lag.

I would hope the HX929 would only be an improvement...

My HX909 is doing about 30ms in game mode original even with local dimming enabled. Since when is this considered bad?
Viper2847's Avatar Viper2847 08:25 PM 05-08-2011
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Originally Posted by Fordlightning View Post

Just got done bugging sony support about type panel it has. Said it has IPS.
Here is my chat log.

user BJ has entered room

analyst Edgar_ has entered room

Edgar_> Hi. Welcome to Sony Online Support. I'm Edgar. Please allow me a moment to review your concern.

BJ> hello edgar

Edgar_> Thanks for waiting. I'll be glad to assist you with the information about the LCD panel of TV.

BJ> Great. I think know the 2 companys sony uses(samsung or sharp). But I was wanting to know if has IPS or AMVA5 panel?

Edgar_> I'm sorry for the delay.

BJ> np

BJ> worth the wait to find out

Edgar_> The type of the LCD panel used in XBR46HX929 is LED HD.

BJ> I know that. I want to know the type of the panel. IPS or AMVA5. To know it's performance and angle can see the picture from the side.

BJ> Alot rummers floating around. I have one order and should be at my place by friday. Like to know.

Edgar_> The type of the LCD panel of XBR46HX929 is ISP with Viewing Angle (Right/Left) : 178 (89/89) and Viewing Angle (Up/Down) : 178 (89/89)

BJ> Thanks. I had hoped for the amva5. But nice to kow what I am getting. thanks for your help Edgar.

Edgar_> You are welcome.

BJ> Know if it's the sam or sharp panel? If can say.

Edgar_> The OptiContrast Panel isSony's exclusive panel technology boosts contrast and brightness, making for an enhanced viewing experience.

BJ> Thanks Edgar. i take that as not able say who made the panel. Again thanks for your help tonight.

Edgar_> You are welcome.

Edgar_> It has been a pleasure to assist you.

Ahaha what a joke! I would not believe a word that guy said to you as hes obviously clueless. Most likely not using IPS.
Do-It-Yourself's Avatar Do-It-Yourself 08:28 PM 05-08-2011
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Ahaha what a joke! I would not believe a word that guy said to you as hes obviously clueless. Most likely not using IPS.

Yes, its not an IPS.
buddhamonk's Avatar buddhamonk 09:40 PM 05-08-2011
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I had no issues with gaming on my D8000. I used Game Mode but there is enough picture control available to get a good picture and about 48ms times. I would hope the HX929 would be around the same.

48 ms is considered to be really bad that's 3 frames, Hx909 had 30ms which is quite a bit better, but i'm hoping the hx929 has like 16ms (1 frame) or less (for $4000 it should).
bpmurr's Avatar bpmurr 09:47 PM 05-08-2011
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Originally Posted by buddhamonk View Post

48 ms is considered to be really bad that's 3 frames, Hx909 had 30ms which is quite a bit better, but i'm hoping the hx929 has like 16ms (1 frame) or less (for $4000 it should).

It's better than the 100ms time outside of Game Mode. The D8000 is in line with the Sony EX500 I had in terms of game performance. Keep in mind I was just using Rock Band 3 with the guitar sensor as a reference. It's not scientific by any means. It's going to be really hard to find anything outside of cheap TVs with minimal processing and some Sharp sets with a Game Mode much lower. If the 929 comes in under 50ms I'd be happy. I'm willing to take a slight hit for a better overall picture. Too bad Toshiba isn't releasing their high end set with an ultra low input response time.
buddhamonk's Avatar buddhamonk 09:51 PM 05-08-2011
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To any forum members that live in Toronto, (or around it) I just visited a "Sony Style" near where I live at Eglinton/Laird. They are getting 4 Sony 46HX929 units on Monday.

Prices: 46" - $3199
55" - $3999

yea what BS our dollar is worth more than the american and they get it for $200 less f*** you Sony.
buddhamonk's Avatar buddhamonk 09:55 PM 05-08-2011
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It's better than the 100ms time outside of Game Mode. The D8000 is in line with the Sony EX500 I had in terms of game performance. Keep in mind I was just using Rock Band 3 with the guitar sensor as a reference. It's not scientific by any means. It's going to be really hard to find anything outside of cheap TVs with minimal processing and some Sharp sets with a Game Mode much lower. If the 929 comes in under 50ms I'd be happy. I'm willing to take a slight hit for a better overall picture. Too bad Toshiba isn't releasing their high end set with an ultra low input response time.

if the 929 had a 50ms that would really suck because the model before it had a 30ms, i'd hope sony would improve thier TV not make it worse. BTW I just saw nick's video of the HX929 for input lag it looked really good in game mode-original, so I expect good things from an actual test.
Mrkingdavid23's Avatar Mrkingdavid23 11:19 PM 05-08-2011
Is there a big difference between this one and the hx820 ?
Viper2847's Avatar Viper2847 11:31 PM 05-08-2011
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Originally Posted by bpmurr View Post

It's better than the 100ms time outside of Game Mode. The D8000 is in line with the Sony EX500 I had in terms of game performance. Keep in mind I was just using Rock Band 3 with the guitar sensor as a reference. It's not scientific by any means. It's going to be really hard to find anything outside of cheap TVs with minimal processing and some Sharp sets with a Game Mode much lower. If the 929 comes in under 50ms I'd be happy. I'm willing to take a slight hit for a better overall picture. Too bad Toshiba isn't releasing their high end set with an ultra low input response time.

If the HX909 can do 30ms in game mode there is no reason why the HX929 shouldnt be able to do the same.

Unless the HX909 using a Sharp panel has anything to do with it...
Holy bear's Avatar Holy bear 11:44 PM 05-08-2011
Maybe the HX929 will do more video processing in Game mode...
avmaxfan's Avatar avmaxfan 11:47 PM 05-08-2011
Sorry for a noob question, but the all the sizes - 65,55 and 46 will have the same panel right? And same PQ ?
I would be happy with a 46" but if the PQ is better in 55 then I might as well go for 55
Do-It-Yourself's Avatar Do-It-Yourself 12:29 AM 05-09-2011
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yea what BS our dollar is worth more than the american and they get it for $200 less f*** you Sony.

Why the curse on Sony, buddy? You surely don't know how economics work in North America :-/
JimDickinson's Avatar JimDickinson 05:00 AM 05-09-2011
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Why the curse on Sony, buddy? You surely don't know how economics work in North America :-/

Agreed - not completely dead yet since my HX929 is getting delivered today.

Like all forums there have to be trolls I guess. Go ahead buddhamonk - hate Sony all you want - don't buy their stuff - that is fine with me. But don't expect us to let you tell us what we should buy.
serndipity's Avatar serndipity 06:39 AM 05-09-2011
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yea what BS our dollar is worth more than the american and they get it for $200 less f*** you Sony.


Not happy paying your high taxes (i.e. VAT)....eh?
JimDickinson's Avatar JimDickinson 06:59 AM 05-09-2011
I replied from my phone and confused two posts - the troll bit was directed toward Holy Bear with the "Sony is Dead" sig.

I get a 929 soon, but I am between game consoles right now so I won't be able to post lag observations.
ahwig60's Avatar ahwig60 07:10 AM 05-09-2011
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Agreed - not completely dead yet since my HX929 is getting delivered today.

Like all forums there have to be trolls I guess. Go ahead buddhamonk - hate Sony all you want - don't buy their stuff - that is fine with me. But don't expect us to let you tell us what we should buy.

don't forget to come back when you get it today and give us a good review of it, when did time they say they will deliver it today.
JimDickinson's Avatar JimDickinson 07:12 AM 05-09-2011
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don't forget to come back when you get it today and give us a good review of it, when did time they say they will deliver it today.

Not sure yet - I have a tracking number that shows that the shipper expects it here today - and I chatted with somone over the weekend at the shipper - but all they can tell me is that the local place will call and set up a time - if I don't hear from them soon I will just call them. In my past experience though they usually won't do anything until it gets here on the dock.
ahwig60's Avatar ahwig60 07:17 AM 05-09-2011
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Not sure yet - I have a tracking number that shows that the shipper expects it here today - and I chatted with somone over the weekend at the shipper - but all they can tell me is that the local place will call and set up a time - if I don't hear from them soon I will just call them. In my past experience though they usually won't do anything until it gets here on the dock.

that doesn't sound promising for today then does it?
Guibs's Avatar Guibs 07:18 AM 05-09-2011
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Originally Posted by buddhamonk View Post

48 ms is considered to be really bad that's 3 frames, Hx909 had 30ms which is quite a bit better, but i'm hoping the hx929 has like 16ms (1 frame) or less (for $4000 it should).

take it for what it's worth guys, but I brought my console in store and tried both the 52" and 46" HX909. Both in Game scene, I could notice a little bit of input lag on the 52" while I almost didn't feel anything on the 46". It's weird since it's the same TV and panel. I have no hard numbers to prove this myself, just an impression I had from using both with exact same settings.
JimDickinson's Avatar JimDickinson 07:22 AM 05-09-2011
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that doesn't sound promising for today then does it?

Nope - which is a bummer because the shipper lists today as the expected delivery date. If I get to talk to them I will ask about just picking it up at the terminal myself, which can save time. I will just have to see what happens. I will post some quick impressions as soon as I can.
Tyrindor's Avatar Tyrindor 07:49 AM 05-09-2011
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take it for what it's worth guys, but I brought my console in store and tried both the 52" and 46" HX909. Both in Game scene, I could notice a little bit of input lag on the 52" while I almost didn't feel anything on the 46". It's weird since it's the same TV and panel. I have no hard numbers to prove this myself, just an impression I had from using both with exact same settings.

You can't enable game mode on demo mode...? Any store will use "demo" mode.

Your talking ~100ms vs ~30ms between game mode on/off.
rachmat-d's Avatar rachmat-d 07:51 AM 05-09-2011
Initial impression, clouding on the right corner .
Bloming is there when the clock information is displayed.
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