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post #991 of 15574 Old 05-12-2011, 10:58 AM
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Just wondering what technical advances have been made to the HX929 compared to my HX909. I really like the HX909, and I think that it is a really great TV compared to most. Is the HX909 the best TV for 2010?

No. The LG LX9500 was better.
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Has anybody seen the new firmware update that is available?

http://sonyrumors.net/2011/05/12/son...via-xbr-hx929/

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No. The LG LX9500 was better.

How can u say the LG was better when it has so many banding issues? The HX909 is superior compare to the LG.
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Has anybody seen the new firmware update that is available?

http://sonyrumors.net/2011/05/12/son...via-xbr-hx929/

look at pg 31 post 914-916
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There is nothing stated in that article that says Samsung cannot manufacture LCD sets with full-backlit local-dimming. Until I see the proof, people are simply engaging in idle speculation and spreading unsubstantiated rumors.
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No. The LG LX9500 was better.

I had two LX9500's and an LE8500 as well. You are welcome to your opinion, but I don't agree. I even liked my old B8500 better than my LX9500's.

The motion on the Samsung was better, the processing was better, there was no horrible banding like on the LX9500, and the screen filter was much better as well.

I found the colors and viewing angles (save for blooming) to be better on the LX9500, with perhaps a bit better shadow detail, but the horribly reflective screen plus the banding detracted significantly from the experience. The inferior processing (including motion) didn't help matters either.

I felt the dimming algorithms were definitely cruder on the LX9500, and the Samsung dimming much more refined.
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I had two LX9500's and an LE8500 as well. You are welcome to your opinion, but I don't agree. I even liked my old B8500 better than my LX9500's.

The motion on the Samsung was better, the processing was better, there was no horrible banding like on the LX9500, and the screen filter was much better as well.

I found the colors and viewing angles (save for blooming) to be better on the LX9500, with perhaps a bit better shadow detail, but the horribly reflective screen plus the banding detracted significantly from the experience. The inferior processing (including motion) didn't help matters either.

I felt the dimming algorithms were definitely cruder on the LX9500, and the Samsung dimming much more refined.

I agree DocuMaker the LG LX9500 was not a very good set.
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I had two LX9500's and an LE8500 as well. You are welcome to your opinion, but I don't agree. I even liked my old B8500 better than my LX9500's.

The motion on the Samsung was better, the processing was better, there was no horrible banding like on the LX9500, and the screen filter was much better as well.

I found the colors and viewing angles (save for blooming) to be better on the LX9500, with perhaps a bit better shadow detail, but the horribly reflective screen plus the banding detracted significantly from the experience. The inferior processing (including motion) didn't help matters either.

I felt the dimming algorithms were definitely cruder on the LX9500, and the Samsung dimming much more refined.

Research the patents. . .
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I had two LX9500's and an LE8500 as well. You are welcome to your opinion, but I don't agree. I even liked my old B8500 better than my LX9500's.

The motion on the Samsung was better, the processing was better, there was no horrible banding like on the LX9500, and the screen filter was much better as well.

I found the colors and viewing angles (save for blooming) to be better on the LX9500, with perhaps a bit better shadow detail, but the horribly reflective screen plus the banding detracted significantly from the experience. The inferior processing (including motion) didn't help matters either.

I felt the dimming algorithms were definitely cruder on the LX9500, and the Samsung dimming much more refined.

I have the LX9500 and I had the Sony HX909. You must of had a defective set or you had improper settings. The LX9500 is better that the Sony HX909. First off the local dimming is way better on the LG. LG also has way better viewing angles and colors. The motion on the lg is smoother than the sony. Do your research. LG has more Zones that the HX909. The only downside to the LX9500 is the banding. The new panel replacements will fix the problem. Over time my banding has decreased. I am waiting for the HX929 to become available at best buy so I can take one home and do a side by side comparison of the LX9500 and the HX929. I should have the HX929 in about 24 hours I am just waiting for a call from my friend at best buy so I can pick one up.
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I have the LX9500 and I had the Sony HX909. You must of had a defective set or you had improper settings. The LX9500 is better that the Sony HX909. First off the local dimming is way better on the LG. LG also has way better viewing angles and colors. The motion on the lg is smoother than the sony. Do your research. LG has more Zones that the HX909. The only downside to the LX9500 is the banding. The new panel replacements will fix the problem. Over time my banding has decreased. I am waiting for the HX929 to become available at best buy so I can take one home and do a side by side comparison of the LX9500 and the HX929. I should have the HX929 in about 24 hours I am just waiting for a call from my friend at best buy so I can pick one up.

Look forward to your feedback!!
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I did forget to mention, if LG motion interpolation is inferior to Sony, then why is Sony using the same method of motion interpolation on the HX929 as LG uses and they claim it to be better than all their 2010 model tv's.
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Thanks to Chris & Ron from Clevelan Plasma. i now have a xbr55hx929 on the way. Should be here mid next week. Can't wait. Not the end month like other place.

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Next time, do us and yourself a favor and read the specific patents involved(e.g. 6,879,364, 6,952,192 , 7,304,703 , and 7,304,626).

They are all in regard to vertical pixel alignment (e.g. IPS chevron panel) and nothing to do with full array panel backlighting.
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Just wanted to get some opinions on this. I am currently debating on a XBR8 or and HX909. Both are 46" and around $1,100 used. I plan on getting the 65" version of the HX929 later this year or next, when the price drops. In the meantime, I'm debating between these two models. Which one has the overall best pic quality? The main reason I'm leaning towards the HX909 is the 3d glasses will work on both tv's, when I eventually get HX929. But, all in all, I'm mainly concerned with which one will have the best 2d pic quality. Thanks.

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Well I've been offered the 60NX720 for just over $1000.00, due to my failing XBR2. They will entertain giving me a 65HX929, but it will cost me $2000 - $3000. My question is, is the HX929 worth the extra price tag.
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^^^ Yes, especially seeing you are in Canada, electronics are usually more in Canada...... That is a pretty sweet deal if you ask me.

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So you really believe the HX929 series is that much better?
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So you really believe the HX929 series is that much better?

Better than what? The LG LW9500?
We don't know yet until the review comes out and get user's feedbacks. I have a feeling the LW9500 will beat the HX929 again like it did last year(LX9500 and HX909).
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Better than the NX720
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Next time, do us and yourself a favor and read the specific patents involved(e.g. 6,879,364, 6,952,192 , 7,304,703 , and 7,304,626).

They are all in regard to vertical pixel alignment (e.g. IPS chevron panel) and nothing to do with full array panel backlighting.

Oohkay, guess it wasnt given to the public. But i've been told by my friend who is a Samsung certified engineer that local dimming was a part of that infringement.
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So you really believe the HX929 series is that much better?

Than the 60NX720? Uhh... Yeah. It's definitely going to be much better.
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At the beginning of the year I would have agreed with you.
But the newer manufactered sets are of much higher quality and produces the PQ that is absolutely amazing!
is there proof that this statement is true?
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Oohkay, guess it wasnt given to the public. But i've been told by my friend who is a Samsung certified engineer that local dimming was a part of that infringement.
This crap is still floating around like a Baby Ruth in the pool I see.



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This crap is still floating around like a Baby Ruth in the pool I see.



Conjecture will get you no-where!

http://sharp-world.com/corporate/news/100208.html
Oh nice. So it's Samsung after all!
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Alright, HX929 owners. Did you compare your current model with the other Sony models like the EX720 and NX720 series?
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Oohkay, guess it wasnt given to the public. But i've been told by my friend who is a Samsung certified engineer that local dimming was a part of that infringement.
So much for your creditability.

Tell me...what is the difference between a Samsung engineer and one of their 'certified' engineers?

Please do.
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So much for your creditability.

Tell me...what is the difference between a Samsung engineer and one of their 'certified' engineers?

Please do.
Look sir, obviously I made a mistake in believing my friend and assuming such patent numbers directed to such local-dimming software/hardware given the information I was forwarded with.
He works for Samsung and in his department they are "Samsung Certified Engineers", what else do you want to know? My birth certificate and my identity?

I could care less about my credibility, nor should you.
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Better than the NX720
Correct, The 929 is full-array local dimming.

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Look sir, obviously I made a mistake in believing my friend and assuming such patent numbers directed to such local-dimming software/hardware given the information I was forwarded with.
He works for Samsung and in his department they are "Samsung Certified Engineers", what else do you want to know? My birth certificate and my identity?

I could care less about my credibility, nor should you.

So noted
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Disappointed VT25 owner here. Went to my local Best Buy, haggled the price a bit, and ordered a 55HX929. Will be arriving Tuesday. Can't wait to be rid of the floating blacks. The only thing that worries me is the mention of flashlighting in the lower corners. Flashlighting is what steered me away from LEDs when I was shopping around and eventually settled on the VT25. Why does every TV have to have a flaw?
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