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post #15541 of 15568 Old 04-24-2014, 06:42 PM
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You have a different brand receiver than I do, but on mine, if you use ARC, you can't have anything else plugged into the "TV" input, not even the analog input - it kills the ARC. Maybe you have the same situation. (I complained to Pioneer about that because I thought they could have remedied that with a simple software fix, but they said it was too complicated to fix.)

As for HDMI Control, you have to be careful of the equivalent of a spreadsheet "circular reference". Sometimes, the HDMI control has to be off on certain devices to get them to work. Because, if for example, you change the input on your receiver and that in-turn changes in the input on your TV, then your TV may try to change the input on the receiver, etc. Or something like that.

Boy, I agree with this statement. When I first setup the new TV and the new Pioneer receiver, I couldn't figure out why my ARC was not working. In fact, I resigned myself to using the optical audio cable from the TV to another input on my Pioneer receiver to get internet videos to go through the receiver, because ARC would not work the way it was supposed to work. Well, come to find out, when I setup my Zone 2 speakers I plugged in the analog connections from my DirecTV receiver into the TV input on the Pioneer and it was shutting off the ARC!!!

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Well got ARC working again. Not sure who's at fault.. I started switching the input on the Sony from the HDM-1 (connected to receiver) and the build in tuner. Did multiple times quickly. Heard a pop (like you get sometimes switching from 2.0 to 5.1 audio) and the receiver was receiving the audio from the tv again!

The only other thing I did (which didn't affect things immediately) was change the energy saving option on the Opp to "energy saving" vs "quick start". My thinking was that perhaps the receiver or tv was thinking the Oppo was still on (vs standby) and this was blocking ARC.

Of course it started working after I wrote a letter to the editor of Sound & Vision magazine complaining about how can one debug hdmi issues between multiple manufacturers when each blames the other for the problem!

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I'm having 3 problems with my 46"

1. A random restarting for over a year now. I've had the main board replaced but it now happens less frequently and I have 6 103 HOST_WDT errors now(no other errors). The TV would randomly restart shortly after the TV has been turned or maybe a few hours after it has been turned on and only does it one time in a day and maybe once a week or every 2 weeks. The TV has done this about 7 times in the past 3 months since the main board was replaced. I'm using the coaxial cable tv input and have the guide information set to update overnight. I notice that when the TV randomly restarts the TV guide location settings are reset and I have to select my cable tv provider. The TV is hooked up VIA built in wifi and I've done a power/factory reset(by remote) that are listed on the sony support site. I've also done a power reset on my router. The TV also has the latest firmware. The only way to stop(almost 3 weeks no restarts) this problem is to disable wifi and have no guide information set to download overnight. I've contacted sony support abut this issue and based on my research it is a software bug.

2.The TV is emitting a buzzing sound from the right side mostly. The buzzing happens every 5-10 minutes and lasts for about a minute each time, and it goes threw this cycle continuously when the TV is on. The buzzing also goes threw the HDMI to my AV processor to my speakers tweeters. When the tv is buzzing I can make it loud or softer by adjusting the backlight setting. When the TV isn't buzzing I can make it buzz by setting motion flow to clear and clear plus(louder than clear). I have all sensors and 3D off. This is most likely a power board problem and it needs to be replaced.

3. I'm noticing a lot juddering and motion blur with panning video(24/30/60fps) and video games. I notice a lot fine pixelation/fine lines with a lot of motion. I also notice screen tearing on the graphics menus when navigating the menus or opening or closing the options menu. Navigating the menus isn't entirely smooth sometimes and a delay can occur. Enabling Motion flow fixes some of the judder but none of the 4 options remove it completely. I don't use any of the advanced picture settings like cinemotion and use game mode for video games. I have my PC hooked up to the TV and notice judder/shimmer/slight flicker on the text when scrolling this thread page with the scroll bar or mouse wheel/keyboard. Are these things I'm seeing normal or is a board bad? Would the T-Con/PYL Board be the problem as It does the following things "LCD Controller, Control Board, CTRL Board and Timing Control"?

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It looks like the power and factory reset fixed my restarting problems, the TV has been downloading guide info for a month now on wifi and I haven't had any problems with it.

MY tv still has a random buzzing problem and I think it's the LED board. I also notice a bit of judder and blur on various content. Motionflow fixes this a little.

I've replaced the following parts.
Mainboard(new from sony)- this fixed the freezing and restarting problems I was having
Power board(new from sony)- this didn't fix anything
T-Con board(used? from parts distributor)- The TV looks much better overall, sharper and the blur/judder I was seeing is almost gone.

Can you do the following test

1 have the picture settings menu open with motion flow selected
2 switch between each setting from smooth to clear plus and listen for a buzz from the back of the tv
3. the backlight setting also changes the volume of the buzz and I would adjust this once Clear plus is turned on so you can pick up the noise better.

Another test I would like you to try
1 have a single colored background like white or a AVS forum page will do better displayed on the TV. Watching hd content will also work.
2 with clear plus enabled I see faint vertical lines on the display
These lines were a lot more noticeable with the old T-Con board. Maybe this is normal or I have a bad panel or T-con

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Anybody looking at something new, yet ?

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Anybody looking at something new, yet ?
Nope. (Knock on wood) my 55HX929 and 46HX729 are still performing brilliantly and I couldn't be happier with them, respectively. I've kept an eye on Sony's newer models but have no need to replace or upgrade yet. I almost never use the 3D features in my models, and 4K is not tempting at this time given the screen sizes I'm dealing with and the dearth of 4K material.

I'm more interested in upgrading my audio component pending the debut of Dolby Atmos and/or DTS-UHD receivers this year or next.
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I feel the same way, but, I'm always looking for that Next thing that will 'blow me away'.

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Nope. (Knock on wood) my 55HX929 and 46HX729 are still performing brilliantly and I couldn't be happier with them, respectively. I've kept an eye on Sony's newer models but have no need to replace or upgrade yet. I almost never use the 3D features in my models, and 4K is not tempting at this time given the screen sizes I'm dealing with and the dearth of 4K material.

I'm more interested in upgrading my audio component pending the debut of Dolby Atmos and/or DTS-UHD receivers this year or next.

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I feel the same way, but, I'm always looking for that Next thing that will 'blow me away'.
Rizz, I don't believe it will amount to a "game changer" audio upgrade, but the newer object-oriented codecs do have me reaching for my wallet. Like you, I have the Denon AVR-3311CI, which has been rock-solid for me for the past three years. But having added front wides and surround backs to my pre-existing 7.1 (w/FH) system this year, I'm itching to replace the 3311 with something that will give me the ability to employ the full 11.1 in the main zone, along with my other two listening zones. I have been tempted by the 4520 for months but have been trying to cool my jets to see what the exact feature sets and cost will be for Denon's 2014 models. It appears that the AVR-X5200W and the presumptive new flagship AVR-X7200W (the latter coming late this year or early next year) might both serve my purposes.

On the video side, other than OLED, I am not aware of any imminent technological innovations that might tempt me away from my current set-up. But I'm always interested in learning what else is in the pipeline.
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I'm actually waiting for the highend Vizio's to hit the market, lotsa good rumblings about this series, especially the high count of backlit LED zones.

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Anybody looking at something new, yet ?
Hello Rizz,
Looking at the 65" 950B, I will move my HX929 to my bedroom. Are you looking at anything new?
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Hello Rizz,
Looking at the 65" 950B, I will move my HX929 to my bedroom. Are you looking at anything new?

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Anybody looking at something new, yet ?
Not ready to spend any money, but I was in a computer store the other day and they had a curved OLED from LG (I think) that was surprisingly impressive (except for the price, which was quite expensive, even though it had been substantially reduced). Since then, I've read about some disadvantages of OLED technology, but I have to admit mouthing a "wow" when I saw that picture. They were playing a demo video with lots of bright liquid paint and it was very impressive. Those were definitely not colors I'm getting on my Sony.
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Anybody looking at something new, yet ?
The better question is which new LED television exceeds the picture quality of the XBR 6 and the HX929?

Also Imirzzi, does Darbee enhance the picture on your 929?
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The better question is which new LED television exceeds the picture quality of the XBR 6 and the HX929?

Also Imirzzi, does Darbee enhance the picture on your 929?
It definitely enhances the PQ.

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Hello

Does anyone know how to reset the error count for the SONY error service menu?

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From the self-check diagnostic screen, you can reset the error count to 00 by pressing "8" and then "0" on your remote.
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It definitely enhances the PQ.
Thanks for your quick response. I am considering the Oppo BDP-105 Darbee. By the way, I meant XBR-8 rather than XBR-6.
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Thanks for your quick response. I am considering the Oppo BDP-105 Darbee. By the way, I meant XBR-8 rather than XBR-6.

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^ ^ ^ ^
From the self-check diagnostic screen, you can reset the error count to 00 by pressing "8" and then "0" on your remote.
Worked, thanks.

The replacement for my 46HX929 is a new 55HX950 which I should have next week.
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Worked, thanks.

The replacement for my 46HX929 is a new 55HX950 which I should have next week.
Wow, nice going! Obviously the replacement is a refurb, but it's nice to know that Sony apparently still has some of these sets on hand. Did you have to pony up any cash for the exchange? And what kind of warranty did they give you on the replacement?
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Wow, nice going! Obviously the replacement is a refurb, but it's nice to know that Sony apparently still has some of these sets on hand. Did you have to pony up any cash for the exchange? And what kind of warranty did they give you on the replacement?
The 55HX950 is new and wasn't cheap at $3,000 shipped from a authorized sony dealer, but I might get it a little lower. My HX929 didn't have an extended warranty. I looked at other brands and options available and I didn't want to spend a lot of money/wait for the Panasonic 4k 900 series releasing later this year. Once the new TV is settled in I will call sony support again and see what kind of deal they can give me on my purchase since I spent a lot of money trying to fix my HX929 and it's now just a parts TV. Sony only offered me 10% off a new TV from there site but the 55W900A($1,999 MSRP Shipped) was in and out of stock at the time and was the only TV I was interested that they had. Maybe I can get the sony 5 year $299 warranty for free?
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The 55HX950 is new and wasn't cheap at $3,000 shipped from a authorized sony dealer, but I might get it a little lower. My HX929 didn't have an extended warranty. I looked at other brands and options available and I didn't want to spend a lot of money/wait for the Panasonic 4k 900 series releasing later this year. Once the new TV is settled in I will call sony support again and see what kind of deal they can give me on my purchase since I spent a lot of money trying to fix my HX929 and it's now just a parts TV. Sony only offered me 10% off a new TV from there site but the 55W900A($1,999 MSRP Shipped) was in and out of stock at the time and was the only TV I was interested that they had. Maybe I can get the sony 5 year $299 warranty for free?
Oh, I see; from your previous post I had assumed that the HX950 was a Sony warranty replacement; that would have been a sweet deal indeed. Still, you've got yourself another great TV. Enjoy it!
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Hi everyone. Today while moving my set the left bottom corner hit a concrete wall and the gorilla glass shattered at that place. The shattered part is at the very edge and does not affect the image but there are two faint lines diagonally extending towards the right upper corner. These lines are visible during dark scenes but really faint during light scenes. The tv otherwise is working normally. Is there a danger of the glass completely breaking? Is there a replacement of the glass even if is not gorilla glass? Thanks in advance.
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Hi everyone. Today while moving my set the left bottom corner hit a concrete wall and the gorilla glass shattered at that place. The shattered part is at the very edge and does not affect the image but there are two faint lines diagonally extending towards the right upper corner. These lines are visible during dark scenes but really faint during light scenes. The tv otherwise is working normally. Is there a danger of the glass completely breaking? Is there a replacement of the glass even if is not gorilla glass? Thanks in advance.
The glass is permanently affixed to the LED panel, not serviced individually.

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Just a thought, but perhaps you could try the cracked windshield repair kits where you cure resin. Might be good for a hairline crack and I know it will definitely strengthen it and prevent the crack from spreading.

I've seen it done for cars and it's not perfectly invisible but it's pretty close, and so I would think it'd be fine for the very corner of your TV. But I believe you're supposed to cure the resin with UV rays, so not sure about that part. Plus I would practice on something else first, like maybe a cracked photo frame.
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Just a thought, but perhaps you could try the cracked windshield repair kits where you cure resin. Might be good for a hairline crack and I know it will definitely strengthen it and prevent the crack from spreading.

I've seen it done for cars and it's not perfectly invisible but it's pretty close, and so I would think it'd be fine for the very corner of your TV. But I believe you're supposed to cure the resin with UV rays, so not sure about that part. Plus I would practice on something else first, like maybe a cracked photo frame.
Just where could you get a pieceof gorilla glass to practice on? Corning does not sell to consumers.

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Just where could you get a pieceof gorilla glass to practice on? Corning does not sell to consumers.
Maybe a broken iPhone from eBay or Craigslist? (Should be lots available)

But anyhow I didn't think Gorilla glass was fundamentally different than normal glass, but rather a better manufacturing process to reduce/eliminate the irregularities. Tempered automotive glass is not exactly the same either, but I think the repair resin works all the same.
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I feel the same way, but, I'm always looking for that Next thing that will 'blow me away'.
I bought a new Panasonic 60" ZT60 plasma to replace my 55XBR929 that was lost in the tornado. Man, I thought my Sony had a great picture...the Panasonic smokes it. The level of shadow detail and clear motion makes the Panasonic appear almost 3D with 2D content. All for $2200 which is $500 less than I paid for the Sony 3 years ago and it is 5" larger to boot.
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