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post #31 of 8249 Old 03-05-2011, 07:48 PM
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I wish I could answer your questions about game mode. Unfortunately, it was a long 2 days for me and I had to get back home before I saw your questions. Yes, that would be a real bummer if we had to game with .0786 blacks.
If I get another chance to get my hands on one, I'll check that for you if it hasn't been answered by then.
Regarding crosstalk in 3D: I thought it did great in that regard. I saw all kinds of crosstalk with some Sammy LED LCDs, and even on a high end front PJ at CEDIA. But on the LW5600 I only saw crosstalk for a few seconds near the beginning of the 3Net session. Now, I also had that strange blurring effect I talked about with objects that are supposed to jump out at you, but I've seen the same thing on every single 3D demo I've seen. I don't know if it's my eyes or what. But for regular crosstalk, I can say this LG is great.
The scan line thing may be visible at 2M. That's probably going to be the threshold distance where it would start being noticeable to most people. On the 55" review set I think the threshold for me seeing it was just a little more than 2M.

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Chad do you think scan lines will be less visible on the 47 inch model?
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Chad do you think scan lines will be less visible on the 47 inch model?

Yes, if we're talking about the same viewing distance.

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Thx for report. But why do You think it's a problem to look TV in dark rooms with this device?

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If you like to watch wide aspect ratio movies in dark rooms and/or you tend to obsess over things, this TV isn't for you.

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Thx for this review

About those scan lines and viewing distance, I understand that this 2 meters for the 47'' and that this would be a bit further for the 55''?

Also how much inputlag these new lg's would have in game mode as it will be used for movies and gaming.
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Thanks for the thorough review Chad. Much appreciated. Do you have any comments of the web browser, remote, and sound quality?

Thanks again.
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I never got the network connected.
I thought the remote was fine, but the menu structure was another story. Getting into the picture settings was a big pain.
Sound quality seemed pretty good. I heard it when connected to 3Net. I wasn't listening critically, but everything sounded clear.

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Thx for this review

About those scan lines and viewing distance, I understand that this 2 meters for the 47'' and that this would be a bit further for the 55''?

Also how much inputlag these new lg's would have in game mode as it will be used for movies and gaming.

Those distances sound about right based on what I saw.
Unfortunately I didn't test input lag.

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Thanks Chad B, you answered most of my questions. Any chance you can connect a ps3 and check game mode, 2d to 3d conversion of games, and native 3d games?

Just waiting on vizio's passives to be released to decide.
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Just waiting on vizio's passives to be released to decide.

When will that be? Anybody know?
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Hmm. Thanks for the review! The big concern I have now is this: I'm betting that game mode requires that local dimming be disabled to cut down on the lag. .0786 fL would be an absolute deal killer if so.

Why do you think the game mode requires local dimming to be disabled?
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Just waiting on vizio's passives to be released to decide.

Unless Vizio has made some major changes, they do not have the best software running there TV's which causes more than a few problems compared to the LG, Samsungs, and Sony's.
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Why do you think the game mode requires local dimming to be disabled?

Because I've seen sets that have done this before. Pretty much anything that requires processing is fair game to worry about.
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My LW5700 died yesterday. Just a flashing red standby light.

Toast!
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What a lucky man you are!

I thought this would be great set. So far not so good.
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Confirmation from an owner that local dimming is disabled in game mode
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Confirmation from an owner that local dimming is disabled in game mode

Ugh, what is the input lag on non gaming mode?
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My LW5700 died yesterday. Just a flashing red standby light.

Toast!

This on top of the news about discontinuation of LW9500 series due to the "problems" and its replacement with LW9600 honestly through me back to the GoldStar era and all the disgruntled customers of their products. I guess renaming to LG only took care of some PR issues. I am starting to get cold feet about this TV.
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Confirmation from an owner that local dimming is disabled in game mode

Well that pretty much makes me forget about this TV. IPS panels WITHOUT local dimming are pretty horrible. Gaming on this TV without local dimming would be bad with those greyish blacks.

I hope the other models will allow you to have it on in game mode.
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How long before information about this TV appears on LG's site? I'd like to check out the owners manual.

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They must have just added it.. this morning I couldn't find it, but it's on their site now..
http://www.lg.com/us/tv-audio-video/...v-55LW5600.jsp
here's the link to the manual
http://www.lg.com/us/support/product...oduct-profile#


I'm in the market for a 55" TV and am looking at the following:
Sony KDL55EX720 and the LG 55LV5500.

I came across this thread and the Passive 3D is intriguing but the set is not available in any stores near me to check out. The pricing of the 55LV5500 and 55LW5600 seems pretty close on Amazon so hopefully this translates to pretty close in price in stores as well.

Also, does this use the RealD glasses found in theaters?

The TVs I'm looking at have 3D, but I have no plans on purchasing the active glasses at over $100 a pop so the 3D feature would be a waste. The Passive 3D use of lower cost glasses could get me to purchase a few extras :-)
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RealD glasses work.
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RealD glasses work.

After another quick search for this TV, I found that Frys carries this model and they had the 47" version on their floor.

The person I spoke with hooked up a Blu-Ray player and popped in a copy of Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs.

I could see myself using this at home, the glasses were a lot lighter and cheaper than the active glasses, so if my kids had friends over I could actually afford to have glasses for everyone. Plus the TV comes with 4 pairs so we would get to watch from the moment we hooked up the set without additional cost. The ones in the kit had a cheaper feel than the ones from the movies so plan on them breaking and stock up when you go the movies and take those with you :-).
When moving from side to side, the image would shift which is to be expected, but it didn't seem to lose the 3d effect when watching it from off-center.
I also didn't have any trouble putting them over my regular glasses.
I've tried the active glasses in the store and they didn't feel as natural.

The 2d-3d conversion was pretty cool.. The demo disc had an Indy car race and switching to 3d looked decent.

Since all the sets I'm looking at are 2011 models, the reviews are scarce, but this set having passive 3d makes it more attractive since the price of admission is a lot more manageable. I look forward to seeing reviews from actual owners.
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Does this TV support Skype video calling?

I found some references to the Inifinia line supporting Skype and also saw references to this TV being part of the Inifinia line but nothing that says this set supports Skype.

Is there a list of what apps are available?
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Im still trying to figure out what exactly "SmatTV" is. From the LG site it says;

"A revolutionary easy way to access limitless content, thousands of movies, customizable apps, videos and the best of the web all organized in simple to use interface."

Is that an actual web browser that can access ALL of the web? Or just the same lame old apps and widgets that restrict you to "the best of the web". I'd love to get clarification on this. I'd much rather be able to waste my day surfing the web on my couch than hunched over my desk at the computer.
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Im still trying to figure out what exactly "SmatTV" is. From the LG site it says;

"A revolutionary easy way to access limitless content, thousands of movies, customizable apps, videos and the best of the web all organized in simple to use interface."

Is that an actual web browser that can access ALL of the web? Or just the same lame old apps and widgets that restrict you to "the best of the web". I'd love to get clarification on this. I'd much rather be able to waste my day surfing the web on my couch than hunched over my desk at the computer.

They are apps like Netflix and Pandora..there was a we browser icon, but when I clicked on it, it said coming soon.
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They are apps like Netflix and Pandora..there was a we browser icon, but when I clicked on it, it said coming soon.


Hmmmmmmmmmm?
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Hmmmmmmmmmm?
Is this a question?

Check out the following pdf for a screen shot
http://bmc.brandsmartusa.com/Product...s/20128234.pdf

When I saw the demo unit, it had an icon for the web browser, but the actual app isn't released yet.. I've read it will be out shortly, but haven't heard how much of a browsing experience you will get.

Since it does include the Magic Motion Remote browsing the web may actually work well on this set.
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All,
I got the LG 55LW5600 yesterday.

So far all I've done is set it up and test out the passive 3D with both Despicable Me 3D and Avatar 3D. I think it looks fantastic! From a 3D comparison perspective the picture is much better than any of the store demos I've seen with active shutter glasses. The picture is much brighter, viewing angles are fantastic, the image has little to no crosstalk visible to me, and my mind isn't registering the loss in resolution you get with passive. To be fair, I'm not comparing passive and active side-by-side, I'm going off of my active impressions from the store vs what I see at home.

Also, the Real3D glasses do work. I actually bought a pack of 10 of them from Amazon for $25 and they work as good as the ones that shipped with the TV.

I was nervous seeing some of the other initial reactions to this TV, but in my limited exposure thus far I'm very happy with my purchase.
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All,
I got the LG 55LW5600 yesterday.

A few questions..
does the SmartTV have a listing of the apps available?
is there a Skype app and an option to add a camera for video chat?
can you try the following with the YouTube app?
http://www.youtube.com/user/3D
It's the 3D youtube channel.. you can change the 3D settings for 3DTVs

You can change the settings for 3D TV or Monitor:
Interleaved rows, columns or checkerboard
Side by side
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Is there a 65LW5600, or is the 65" model only available in the LW6500 model? Also, any thoughts on when the 65" sets are hitting the market.

Based on the early impressions, this seems like a great value.
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All,
I got the LG 55LW5600 yesterday.

So far all I've done is set it up and test out the passive 3D with both Despicable Me 3D and Avatar 3D. I think it looks fantastic! From a 3D comparison perspective the picture is much better than any of the store demos I've seen with active shutter glasses. The picture is much brighter, viewing angles are fantastic, the image has little to no crosstalk visible to me, and my mind isn't registering the loss in resolution you get with passive. To be fair, I'm not comparing passive and active side-by-side, I'm going off of my active impressions from the store vs what I see at home.

Also, the Real3D glasses do work. I actually bought a pack of 10 of them from Amazon for $25 and they work as good as the ones that shipped with the TV.

I was nervous seeing some of the other initial reactions to this TV, but in my limited exposure thus far I'm very happy with my purchase.

What is the FCC ID of your set?
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