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Gonna have to call Samsung on Monday to figure out the pairing. I know a lot of people don't like Automotion but I must say that putting it on the Clear setting simply blows me away with the picture quality!

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You guys got the QWERTY remote actually in the box instead of vouchers? If so, got the glasses too?

The Best Buy i got mine at yesterday had Qwerty remote included. And they threw in the 3D starter kit as well. And still have the voucher for 2 more glasses as well.

Now if only the Qwerty remote side would work with the TV IF anyone having trouble with this figures out what is up, PLEASE post how to resolve it. Otherwise im calling samsung up and wasting probably an hour of my life on hold or waiting for some poorly trained guy to read manuals to me lol
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Those guys are blind if they think the d7000 Looks better than the d8000.
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The D8000 looks to be a real winner. My buddy picked one up earlier today and told me to stop by. I was in shock....the set was Black...he had hooked up his laptop and the mouse was the only thing on the screen. Pure BLACK as he moved the cursor around no clouding, no halo effect, no flashlighting. DEEP BLACK. His brother was also over to check it out, he has a Kuro...the first words out of his mouth were "Its close" ...I've seen alot of displays and calibrated displays...this thing is a game changer, can't wait for the 60'' or 65''
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Those guys are blind if they think the d7000 Looks better than the d8000.

Have you had the time to thoroughly compare the D7000 and D8000?
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Have you had the time to thoroughly compare the D7000 and D8000?

I have, and think the UK Cnet guys are nuts. Spent a few hours at my local store before picking up my D8000. And while the 7000 looked pretty cool with the clear plastic rim. I couldn't help but think it looked like the edge of an aquarium.. And it reflected a lot more light than the 8000's black/silver rim did. Which to me is the deciding factor.

As for actual PQ, it's not even a question. Which is why i spent the $500 more for the 8000.
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Those guys are blind if they think the d7000 Looks better than the d8000.

na, i think so too. silver bezel is ugly in my eyes.
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Speculations and production of sci-fi about Micro Dimming will only dim the picture . What is known now comes from official Samsung explanation. Here is the copy of relevant text, emphasis on key aspects is mine:

... This innovative technology is called Micro Dimming. It uses software to analyze the picture, break it up into many squares, and adjust the panel to account for darker and brighter areas. On the LED 8000, this is taken even further with Micro Dimming Plus. In addition to the Micro Dimming software, the LED 8000’s Micro Dimming Plus features built-in hardware that allows for each of the LEDs lights to be automatically adjusted independently. If you are looking for elite picture quality in an ultra slim TV, Micro Dimming Plus in the LED 8000 ensures that the image is as close as possible to what the camera saw when the video or film was made. Here is the pic illustrating the principle:

Attachment 205049


This is all what is known. Part of the story seems to be clear. Micro Dimming operates by local contrast enhancement in small areas that is bright areas get bit brighter and dark areas get bit darker. This provides subjectively better contrast. But it does not explain yet why big black areas are totally black.
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na, i think so too. silver bezel is ugly in my eyes.

WHAT!!! Yeah, I always buy my TVs based on the bezel... NOT!!! Anyone who thinks the D8000 is ugly because of the bezel must have rocks in his head. With the outstanding picture, I wouldn't really care what the bezel looked like; I'd be too busy concentrating on the screen. However, since you brought it up, I think the "disappearing" silver bezel just adds to the overall beauty of the TV.
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Excuse my English, are Italian, a technician Hardware
systems and HDTV, I would like to specify that the
Micro Dimming Plus Samsung D8000 is a system of two synergies,
a software el 'other hardware, software deals with the dynamic of 4000
controlled areas where the contrast is adjusted by analyzing the frame.

The hardware is also explained as a technical Croatian,
a LGP (Light Guide Plate) divided into 23x12 = 276 regions
for 46", the zones are controlled local dimming, emulating
FULL LED local dimming technology!

Tech link:

http://hdtelevizija.com/2011/02/01/s...-osvjetljenja/
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All right. Figured out the pairing. Bring the remote about 3 inches from the sensor of the TV and press the Sym+Tab button for 2 seconds........ PAIRED! Enjoy your new TV dudes!

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Excuse my English, are Italian, a technician Hardware
systems and HDTV, I would like to specify that the
Micro Dimming Plus Samsung D8000 is a system of two synergies,
a software el 'other hardware, software deals with the dynamic of 4000 controlled areas where the contrast is adjusted by analyzing the frame.

The hardware is also explained as a technical Croatian,
a LGP (Light Guide Plate) divided into 23x12 = 276 regions
for 46", the zones are controlled local dimming, emulating
FULL LED local dimming technology!

Tech link:
http://hdtelevizija.com/2011/02/01/s...-osvjetljenja/

About the light guide plate divided into zones, Croatian is very easy here but this has not been confirmed by Samsung. There is every reason to believe Smasung would tell about this in their official explanation (look messages above).
Since Samsung does not mention it, this should has status of
urban legend in-the-making.

Even the 4000 areas for software analysis were not stated by
Samsung.

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Does anyone know if the D7000 has the illuminated logo like the D8000?
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Has anyone had any contact with a 7900? Id like to know how it differs from the 8000
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WHAT!!! Yeah, I always buy my TVs based on the bezel... NOT!!! Anyone who thinks the D8000 is ugly because of the bezel must have rocks in his head. With the outstanding picture, I wouldn't really care what the bezel looked like; I'd be too busy concentrating on the screen. However, since you brought it up, I think the "disappearing" silver bezel just adds to the overall beauty of the TV.

As you can read in every review so far, D7000 and D8000 are equal in picture quality. so next is design and for me black bezel looks much better.
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new review:
http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/tvs/samsun...view-50003099/

These reviewer guys must be thinking all the time about new superlatives. So a new one for D8000 is: STONKING IMAGE QUALITY.

Stonking - ever heard abou this British English word? Sources tell:

Stonking - (chiefly UK) impressively large; exciting; used by glider pilots to describe excellent weather conditions

Stonking - British colloquial: Impressive, wonderful

Stonking - F**ing awesome, like in: Oh my f**king god! Did you see that girl's stonking great tits?!

Stonking - (UK) very sexually attractive (usually of girl), like in: That Brenda is f**kin' stonking


So yes, the D8000 is stonking TV

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As you can read in every review so far, D7000 and D8000 are equal in picture quality. so next is design and for me black bezel looks much better.

I saw this in the Cnet UK review but what other reviews state that PQ on the D7000 is the same as the 8000
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Although the d7000 does have good pq. It's not even close to being even with the d8000.
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so you have both and have tested them side by side?
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Saw theme both side by side at a local electronics store.
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Saw theme both side by side at a local electronics store.

Did you happen to notice if the D7000 has the illuminated logo? I like both of them but wondered about this detail?
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No the d7000 does not have the illuminated logo.
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About the light guide plate divided into zones, Croatian is very easy here but this has not been confirmed by Samsung. There is every reason to believe Smasung would tell about this in their official explanation (look messages above).
Since Samsung does not mention it, this should has status of
urban legend in-the-making.

Even the 4000 areas for software analysis were not stated by
Samsung.

There is a question time in Flat Panels HD that maybe you DO NOT
read, speak and Samsung's engineers are revealing their
control software on the 4000 area, I have time just post the link!
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The difference is the D7000 does not have micro dimming plus. It also has a lower contrast ratio. Does not come with 3d glasses. Side by side the D8000 picture is noticeably better. It is more than worth the price difference. The D8000 have depper blacks, whiter whites, better color, way less flashlight effect, no halo effect. On the D7000 I did see the flashlight effect and also saw the halo effect.
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Link, bottom of the page you will find the question time Samsung !!

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...&id=1298534082

Samsung responds

"a software controller that analyzes the picture
in 4000 different zones and adjusts accordingly."

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...05&postcount=1



LGP hardware this below
and control in local dimming emulated!

http://www.avmagazine.it/forum/showp...&postcount=104

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I saw this in the Cnet UK review but what other reviews state that PQ on the D7000 is the same as the 8000

Some german reviews.

It's ok that you all are convinced that the D8000 is better than the D7000. If I had just bought a new set I would also argue like that

Maybe we can agree that both sets are very good TVs
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Felsi. I agree that both are great tvs also.
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Incredible Contrast with Micro Dimming Plus

http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/...YFXZA-features

See the difference with Micro Dimming Plus Technology Micro Dimming Plus is a feature that is unique to the Samsung LED 8000. TVs typically treat their light source as a single light even though there may be many bulbs making up that light. While most TVs can vary the brightness, they expose the whole scene to the same light. As a result, a bright object in a dark scene (a candle in a dark room) is dimmed to make the room dark, or a dark object in a bright scene (an action hero silhouetted against an explosion) is grayer than it should be to make the scene bright. With the advent of LED TVs, this was no longer a limitation of TV. LED light sources can be placed behind the panel and used to light only a specific region. With many of these LEDs behind the panel, bright areas get the light they need and dark areas stay dark. This is a process commonly called Local Dimming. However, Local Dimming poses other problems: the TV must be thicker and more LEDs are needed making the set more expensive and less energy efficient. Samsung has found a way to create the contrast improvements offered by Local Dimming without sacrificing the TVs depth, design, energy efficiency or price. This innovative technology is called Micro Dimming. It uses software to analyze the picture, break it up into many squares, and adjust the panel to account for darker and brighter areas. On the LED 8000, this is taken even further with Micro Dimming Plus. In addition to the Micro Dimming software, the LED 8000's Micro Dimming Plus features built-in hardware that allows for each of the LEDs lights to be automatically adjusted independently. If you are looking for elite picture quality in an ultra slim TV, Micro Dimming Plus in the LED 8000 ensures that the image is as close as possible to what the camera saw when the video or film was made.
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well, I just bought the 55d8000 this morning,
But there warehouse is closed on the weekends. (weird, anyways)
I will post pic's when I bring it home after work on monday.
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