Originally Posted by Fleury
Im really curious how input lag will be on this years Samsung LED-LCD's. I tried 2 of last years models and they both went back because of input lag.
You said you were playing games with the auto motion on Clear. I can 100% guarantee you there is a massive amount of lag in that setting. Auto motion plus adds alot of lag and should always be off when gaming. I feel like 90% of people dont understand what lag in a tv is. It has nothing to with with how the picture looks. It is a delay in your inputs. Say if you press "a" it wont happen instantly on the screen because the TV is taking extra time to process the image. So there is "lag" in what your doing on your controller. This is can make you terrible at high reflex games like first person shooters and rhythm games. I think some people are just oblivious to the lag and just think they suck at the game. But in reality this lag can really influence how you play.
I understand your concern, and while I'm not a regular player anymore, I've been a gamer since the days of Adventure on a mainframe. I've owned everything from the first Atari, Intellivision, Nintendos, Sega, etc., through today. I have 2 Xbox 360s and a PS3. I tend to play first person shooters and coop shooters that don't work well with any noticeable lag. While I don't play much now, my son plays too much, but enough to notice lag. I don't know whether the complexity of the graphics redrawing in a game adds to lag, or if it's 100% of the TV's job.
If there was a noticeable difference btw the time I input a command to the Xbox and then on to the LCD panel until the time it was processed by the panel, I would have noticed it. I played a bit of Black Ops last night - both Zombies and team deathmatch. In team deathmatch, IMO, almost any lag would be noticeable. This is especially true with "one in the chamber," in which a split second can make the difference. That said, I played some on auto motion off and some on clear. The only time I had motion lag was when I accidently turned the TV off with the BD remote, and then back on.
It seems like there was input lag for about 15 seconds that dissapeared. I've no idea if it was the processing, the initial screen redraw, the inet connection or something else. I'm not saying you're wrong or I'm right, but that so far, I've seen no lag. That's why I asked whether the graphics demand of a game could cause additional lag.
My son played Black Ops for another hour online - on clear - again, no motion lag. Believe me, if he couldn't move instantly when trying, shoot exactly when he wanted, etc., he would have told me and complained.
I will try to test it again tonight to see if I can force lag by moving up one setting at a time, which I think will take the TV a few more miliseconds to process the data, thereby causing a bit more lag. It'll also help confirm my first impressions. I don't think I said in my eariler posts that I noticed lag. I did notice some judder, in particular during one or two commercials, and once in a repo man type show, but I changed a lot yesterday - I need to go back and do it more scientifically now. I certainly don't want to be wrong and have people to rely on me. People should certain not rely on me to make a buying decision as I'm not an expert.
Maybe I'll also try Borderlands and Rainbow Six Vegas and Army of Two just to see.