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rgb?

the 632 has the standard Red Green Blue sub-pixels. The 732 has the Quattron Red Green Blue Yellow. Some people don't like the extra yellow sub-pixel. For myself, if the set is correctly calibrated it seems like it shouldn't matter. I have the 732.

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That is not true, they are both full array, 7xx has a quatron panel instead of just RGB.

http://www.sears.ca/product/sharp-aq...789-LC70LE632U
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I'm excited to see the 732 because the 632 looks really good. I would have kept it if they made it right price wise. I mean $51 more for the 732 that's a no brainer.

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My link says different:

http://files.sharp.ca/Downloads/ForH..._Sheet_ENG.pdf

Unfortunately the spec on sharp.ca is wrong! I had a long email discussion with sharp support and they confirmed that 632U is edge lit. I cancelled my order as initially I thought it is full array and image quality should be about the same as 80" model.
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Unfortunately the spec on sharp.ca is wrong! I had a long email discussion with sharp support and they confirmed that 632U is edge lit. I cancelled my order as initially I thought it is full array and image quality should be about the same as 80" model.

Good to know, thanks for clarifying. I have to admit, for an edge lit display, it is pretty good looking!
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Unfortunately the spec on sharp.ca is wrong! I had a long email discussion with sharp support and they confirmed that 632U is edge lit. I cancelled my order as initially I thought it is full array and image quality should be about the same as 80" model.

So the 732 is full lit though right?

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^^ There are calling the 732, 734, and 735 "Full Array LED". However do not get this confused as local dimming. Night and day difference there. In fact the "Full Array LED" is more like an edge lit tv in comparison. These are still great sets though
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I’m excited to see the 732 because the 632 looks really good. I would have kept it if they made it right price wise. I mean $51 more for the 732 that’s a no brainer.

I bet there is little to no difference in overall picture quality.
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So I went to the local TV store today, and they had the 70" 732 set up next to the 60" 632. The 632 of course is an edge lit unit. Wish I had my camera.
The 632 IMHO, was spanking the 70". No dark spots in the corner which the 70" had. No flashlighting, better contrast, and what looked like to me - better resolution. Weird. The 70" still looked good, but the 60" looked great. The 60 inch had finer detail.

Now, I know this has a lot to do with settings, and store video feeds, yada yada. The clincher is that according to the sales guy, they are coming out with a 70 inch edge lit like it in a few weeks, maybe for black Friday? And significantly less expensive.

Who knows, I am probably going to "pull the trigger" on the 70 soon, but under no hurry. I love the size. I was under the presumption that edge lit would not be a uniform light distribution on a display that size, (the 60") but it sure looked good in the store.

One thing that is holding me back is a suitable free standing stand. I think I can modify the old one holding a 52", by bolting some plywood to the back, and then bolting a mount to that. The stand has to hold the display 15" above the shelf for room for a center channel speaker.

Great thread, learned a lot on it!

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the 632 has the standard Red Green Blue sub-pixels. The 732 has the Quattron Red Green Blue Yellow. Some people don't like the extra yellow sub-pixel. For myself, if the set is correctly calibrated it seems like it shouldn't matter. I have the 732.

The 632 also lacks the simulated 240hz aquamotion.

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So the 732 is full lit though right?

Yes -- 732 is full array.
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The clincher is that according to the sales guy, they are coming out with a 70 inch edge lit like it in a few weeks, maybe for black Friday?

The LC70LE632U is a 70" edge lit TV. It's already on sale at Costco, BB, etc.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sharp+-+...&skuId=3641514

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One thing that is holding me back is a suitable free standing stand. I think I can modify the old one holding a 52", by bolting some plywood to the back, and then bolting a mount to that. The stand has to hold the display 15" above the shelf for room for a center channel speaker.

Are you talking about wall mounts? There are several suitable ones -- just search this thread. I bought this one at the recommendation of another person on this thread. It's a bit more expensive but very sturdy.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...01_i00_details
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The LC70LE632U is a 70" edge lit TV. It's already on sale at Costco, BB, etc.

Where are you getting your information? Sharp says its Full array

http://files.sharp.ca/Downloads/ForH..._Sheet_ENG.pdf
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Struggling with my decision between the 732 and the 734.

It seems that many folks disable the 240 aquamotion that the 734 offers oover the 732. That renders the feature and therefore the price increase seemingly worthless.

Is the 734 price tag worth it over the 732???

Also, I saw the 733 at Sams, and it had HORRIBLE blurring on a football segment on the revolving feed.
I've read that people have better results with a singular/non-split feed--Is this the universal concensus?

My other distant contender would be a refurb 65" Vizio with passive 3d--slightly cheaper with so-so 3d to satisfy that should i ever want it. BUT--it's smaller.
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Where are you getting your information? Sharp says its Full array

http://files.sharp.ca/Downloads/ForH..._Sheet_ENG.pdf

This whole thread is full of talk about it. The link I posted to Sears shows it as edge lit... somebody up further on this page said they just had a long conversation with Sharp and confirmed it was edge lit. The 60" and the 80" 632 is edge lit.
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This whole thread is full of talk about it. The link I posted to Sears shows it as edge lit... somebody up further on this page said they just had a long conversation with Sharp and confirmed it was edge lit. The 60" and the 80" 632 is edge lit.

http://files.sharp.ca/Downloads/ForH...32U_us2_en.pdf

The Sharp manual says full array, and honestly I don't think Sears, or some outsourced e-mail support person are exactly definitive proof of anything.
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The fact that it is reported (linked pdf) to be 89mm thick leads me to believe that it is back lit.

It should be well less than two grand on BF, according to the sales guy. Who knows. It must be fairly new though, right? No one seems to be talking about it, no official thread?

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I don't have any solid proof either way, and I don't really have any vested interest either way

Quite honestly, before I ever looked anywhere, I had it in my head that the 632 was edge lit because of this forum. It was only when I went looking and started finding (there are a lot) of references to the 632 being edge lit that I really believed it. There are a ton of merchants online advertising it as edge lit.

It is quite powerful evidence that the Sharp specification pdf file says full array though. It's just odd that both the 60" and 80" with the same model number are edge lit.
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Well I got the 632 picked up and just got the 732 dropped off. Right out of the box this tv destroys the 632 in pq. Have to see how it looks after some tinkering but it's definitely a better tv than the 632. My gf was in the room when I turned on both for the first time and before I could even say anything she said wow huge upgrade.
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Interesting. It was certainly the other way around in the store. Maybe the environment/source/settings and what not.

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Interesting. It was certainly the other way around in the store. Maybe the environment/source/settings and what not.

I had the 70” 632 not the 60”. These TVs don’t come out of the box set that great imo. But a tiny bit of tinkering is huge. Like the film mode is default on. And I can’t imagine ever using it. The soap opera effect is super bad with it on. No idea why it comes on or where anyone would use it. That’s just one example. I have always bought higher end TVs like Sony xbr TVs. This is my first somewhat budget TV (considering prices on tvs this size this would be super cheap). I’m very impressed with both the 632 and 732.


After some tinkering I’m even more happier with the upgrade. I thought the 632 was great so I don’t mean this as a knock on the 632 (70”) but the 732 is a much more dynamic TV. I can push it harder with the back light and contrast without losing pq. The 632 color started to get a little meshed together if I turned both up too much. The 732 is a much brighter TV with more pop without losing pq. Well worth the $51 extra I spent. It’s definitely a higher end TV.

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I don't have any solid proof either way, and I don't really have any vested interest either way

Quite honestly, before I ever looked anywhere, I had it in my head that the 632 was edge lit because of this forum. It was only when I went looking and started finding (there are a lot) of references to the 632 being edge lit that I really believed it. There are a ton of merchants online advertising it as edge lit.

It is quite powerful evidence that the Sharp specification pdf file says full array though. It's just odd that both the 60" and 80" with the same model number are edge lit.

Sharp's model numbers can be a bit screwed up. When it comes to the 632 series the 70 and 80 inch are full array. The 60 inch is edge lit. It's just plain screwed up that they would have different specs on the same model series. The manuals can also add to the confusion as the 70 inch 732 (full array) shares the same manual as the 60 inch 632. (edge lit) It's anyone's guess as to why.

There is however a press relese floating around somewhere, about the 70 and 80 inch 632. Where it is mentioned that they are both full array. There is also a video from the Elite press event in which a Sharp exec states that 70 inches is just too big for edge lit.
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Interesting. It was certainly the other way around in the store. Maybe the environment/source/settings and what not.

For comparison, you need to have them at the same settings. Our Costco had the 632 and 733 sitting side-by-side, and I used the remotes to set both TV's to switch from dynamic to standard mode with identical settings, 120 Hz low motion compensation, auto ambient light setting off, color temp medium. Then I watched them for about 40 minutes and although they were very close, the 733 looked slightly sharper, slightly brighter, and appeared to have somewhat more color saturation. The overhead halogen lighting did not appear to be a factor. The so-called corner darkening problem mentioned in previous posts about the 733 was either very slight or not apparent; perhaps Sharp has solved this problem? Although it would interesting to see what improvement the Elite offers, I think most people would be happy with either one of these sets. I'm still waiting to see the 80", but I'm afraid it will make me regret my purchase of the 70".
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Just to clarify a bit on the information I got with respect to 632 vs. 732: ordered the 632 from a local dealer as they had a promotion sale that saves a few hundred bucks. While waiting for delivery, I poked around to see if it's edge lit or full array. initially I thought it must be full array as that was stated on sharp.ca, and also 70" seems too big for edge lit. However, after asking sharp online support, I got different answers from 4/5 agents, and the last one seems to be very certain that it is edge lit. I then asked my local dealer if it's edge lit and they confirmed yes. That's when I decide to cancel the order.

I complained to sharp online support on their confusing specs on the web but apparently no actions are taken.

Also wonder why 632 model has not shown up on sharpusa ?
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Here's the press release I mentioned earlier. It however only mentions the 80, and not the 70.

http://www.sharpusa.com/AboutSharp/N...ED_LCD_TV.aspx
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Also wonder why 632 model has not shown up on sharpusa ?

I think the marketing department must be somewhat behind the times. The 80" finally showed up on Sharp's website after being available for purchase for several weeks.
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Why is this so hard for Sharp to clear this up???? I don't have much confidence in their support staff nor their website data.

Most (85%) of the online specs I've seen for the 70LE632U is Full Array. I been to the Costco a few times (Canada) and the 633 there which is identical to a 632 with Aquomotion 240 added on and the the info on the boxes indicate Full Array. I just can't see why SHarp would single out a single 70" panel and make it edge-lit while the 732/3/4/5 and 80" are full array...makes no sense.

The contrast ratio is the one spec that I have a harder time figuring out as I'd say its 50-50. Some say 4000000:1 other 50% 6000000:1 Probably don't matter as much as the edge-lit vs full array though.
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Why is this so hard for Sharp to clear this up???? I don't have much confidence in their support staff nor their website data.

Most (85%) of the online specs I've seen for the 70LE632U is Full Array. I been to the Costco a few times (Canada) and the 633 there which is identical to a 632 with Aquomotion 240 added on and the the info on the boxes indicate Full Array. I just can't see why SHarp would single out a single 70" panel and make it edge-lit while the 732/3/4/5 and 80" are full array...makes no sense.

The contrast ratio is the one spec that I have a harder time figuring out as I'd say its 50-50. Some say 4000000:1 other 50% 6000000:1 Probably don't matter as much as the edge-lit vs full array though.

Does the 632 have the dark corners like the 732? If it does that's a sure sign that it's full array and using the same array as the 732.

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Does the 632 have the dark corners like the 732? If it does that's a sure sign that it's full array and using the same array as the 732.

No it does not, but neither does the Elite. Don't forget the 70 and 80 632s came out after the Elite.
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Does the 632 have the dark corners like the 732? If it does that's a sure sign that it's full array and using the same array as the 732.

I have had both the 632 and now the 732 and I haven't seen any dark corners on either one. I have looked for it but don't see it at all.

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