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H H Gregg has the 70" in their add (in store only) for$2369. Check ************** for info. and under comments someone has posted the ad. This TV will be dirt cheap soon the way the pricing is going.

MY God! That's about what I paid for my 60" Sony SXRD 4 years ago.

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For those of you who wall mounted the TV, did you do it yourself or did you have it done? I will need to secure another person to help me lift it up, and of course I'll need to order the mount. Or I can just pay BB to install it.

wall mounted mine all by my self. the tv only weighs 95 or so pounds. i did however have the wife help center it on the mount with her eyeballs. big help there! LOL

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MY God! That's about what I paid for my 60" Sony SXRD 4 years ago.

I paid like $4200 for my SXRD 60 inch when it first came out.
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I paid like $4200 for my SXRD 60 inch when it first came out.

I paid $6K for my 70" XBR2 -- and that was after the price dropped by $1000 within a month of release. Times have changed. But the XBR2 was (IMHO) one of the best TVs made at the time.

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Got mine yesterday. In general, it is an excellent set. I'm not a color purist, but the overall picture quality is very good. It was not that hard to wall mount. (I have an 18-yr. old son to help.) Used a Peerless tilt-mount with a VESA adapter plate.

I was replacing a Sharp - so I didn't think I would need to do much reprogramming of my controller - but it requires a code on the serial port that enables it to respond to the serial-port power-on command. That took a little while to figure out.

Biggest issue is the reflectivity. The old Sharp's were true matte. I have a window 40' behind the set. No tilt angle will block it out. It was fine with the old set - but this one is like a mirror when showing black. I'll need to get some autoshades as a first line of defense.
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Anyone selling this set in EU?
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wall mounted mine all by my self. the tv only weighs 95 or so pounds. i did however have the wife help center it on the mount with her eyeballs. big help there! LOL

I can handle the weight in the form of a barbell - lol.... just wasn't sure about the TV's different form factor. I think I'll do it myself too and maybe get a friend to help if the panel is too awkward to pick up.
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BTW, quick question on figuring out drilling location of the mounting bracket. I was looking at the Sanus website and they have a calculator for where to drill the holes for the bracket based on where I want to bottom edge of the TV to be. To do the calculation, they want the distance from the top bracket screw holes on the back of the TV to the top edge of the TV.

In the attached .jpg, am I correct in assuming that dotted lines that intersect in my red circle represent the horizontal and vertical bisecting lines of the set? The distance from the top pair of holes to the top of the TV should therefore be 975mm/2 - 190 = 297.5mm? Am I doing this right?
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I paid $6K for my 70" XBR2 -- and that was after the price dropped by $1000 within a month of release. Times have changed. But the XBR2 was (IMHO) one of the best TVs made at the time.

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Ditto on that about the XBR2. I'm ready to pull the plug on this one too and keep my XBR2. I may wait for the Sharp unit due out in August.
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Just wanted to add that people should definately switch 'film mode' to off (which most people suggest here anyway). I noticed quite a few artifacts in my 1080p23 movies and these were gone after switching that 'film mode' off.
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I can handle the weight in the form of a barbell - lol.... just wasn't sure about the TV's different form factor. I think I'll do it myself too and maybe get a friend to help if the panel is too awkward to pick up.

I don't know how anyone could pick it up by themselves. It is too wide. Get help - even if it is only a spotter.
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RobbinMerritt, over the plasma, the colors are more vivid, whites whiter and sharper pictures, even after a lot of tweaking on the plasma. Over the u88n, better colors, brighter and fresh looking.

armornone, viewing distance is said to be 2-3 times the screen size.

So 70-inches X 2 = 140/12(inches to feet)=11.6 feet.

70-inches X 3 = 210/(12(inches to feet) = 17.5 feet.

So between 11.6-17.5 feet?

I am about 13.4 feet away from the tv in my setup.

So you think I would be ok with such a large TV?

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Not to be anal armornone, but it is a 69.5" diagonal set. So that should be the basic unit to calculate distance.

If you do a google search there are several sites that can give you a good estimate of optimal, max and min distances (and some even do calculations based on viewing angles).

My wife called this morning to tell me that it's all been installed. She called it a "monstrosity". But she then proceeded to stay down in the basement and watch Netflix on it for 2 hours with my daughter.
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So 70-inches X 2 = 140/12(inches to feet)=11.6 feet.

70-inches X 3 = 210/(12(inches to feet) = 17.5 feet.

So between 11.6-17.5 feet?

I am about 13.4 feet away from the tv in my setup.

So you think I would be ok with such a large TV?

Thanks.

I don't know where you got this measurement ratio but it's not correct for HD. It may be for SD but HD and seeing how this panel does 1:1 Dot Mode viewing distance is much closer for HD than you have posted and I've viewed a 57" for 5 years at 8.5' and cannot see any pixels without putting my eyes right up to the screen.

Check the THX viewing distance calculator in my signature block and input your distance for HD and it will provide the calculation.

Here's another viewing distance article and explanation at flatpanelsHD. (Their in Scandanavia so measurements will be inch for screen size and meters for distance)

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/focus.ph...&id=1229341535

A variety of rec's: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimum...ewing_distance

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So 70-inches X 2 = 140/12(inches to feet)=11.6 feet.

70-inches X 3 = 210/(12(inches to feet) = 17.5 feet.

So between 11.6-17.5 feet?

I am about 13.4 feet away from the tv in my setup.

So you think I would be ok with such a large TV?

Thanks.

My set is 14 feet away from my seating area. Front projection fans do 100+ inches at thoese distances. 70 is certainly not too big.

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Just found out this beast can do 50 hz ! Most european TV's can do both 50 and 60 (next to 24), but I don't think there are a lot US TV's that can do 50hz. My xbr9 sure couldn't. Damn happy this one can !

Also nice is that a 1080p23.976 windows desktop displays completely on screen (my xbr9 couldn't, there was always some part outside the visible area, best mode could only show half of the task bar)
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My set is 14 feet away from my seating area. Front projection fans do 100+ inches at thoese distances. 70 is certainly not too big.

In fact, I moved my sofa a bit closer. I like 11-12 feet better than 14.
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In fact, I moved my sofa a bit closer. I like 11-12 feet better than 14.

I plan on sitting between 6-10 feet from my next HDTV, and this beast is still one of my frontrunners.

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Here's a pic of mine mounted on the wall. Thanks to Chris from Cleveland Plasma!
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Brad, I love the LED lights you have going behind the set. Did you stick the LED strip to the wall or did you attach it to the back of the TV? Also, apart from the aesthetic aspect, is there a visual advantage to leaving it on while watching the TV, especially when the room is darkened?
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Brad, I love the LED lights you have going behind the set. Did you stick the LED strip to the wall or did you attach it to the back of the TV? Also, apart from the aesthetic aspect, is there a visual advantage to leaving it on while watching the TV, especially when the room is darkened?

Thanks Scrumhalf, the led strip is stuck to the back of the TV so that it shines on the wall more directly. The adhesive is not very strong so it can be removed easily and does not leave a residue or anything. There are a lot of people that use a back light for 'bias lighting' purposes which is supposed to reduce eye strain etc. But I think there are rules as to the amount and color temperature of the light you're supposed to use etc. I'd like to say I was doing all that but truthfully I just think it looks bad4ss.
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Played around with my new one last night.

So far very impressed. Outperforms the Samsung HP-T5064 it replaced in every category, perhaps save one: I did notice some motion flicker during the hockey game on the puck when it was travelling fast, but you really had to pay attention to notice this. My old plasma would not have that issue. As for the quick movements of the players or an action scene in 24 season 8, the tv had no problem handling those and there was no discernible motion flicker, even when I stood really close.

Handles 1080p24 properly, without any need to tinker with the settings on my Blu-ray.

I found it was preferable to keep the motion plus at "120Hz low" to watch hockey/basketball last night. "120Hz high" doesn't seem to make that much of a difference, however. Motion plus doesn't seem to make any difference at all for other types of programming, althoug I'll reserve judgment on that.

I have noticed a slight difference in the black levels between the four corners of the tv and the rest of the screen when the image being displayed is black. As noticed by some on this forum previously, the image near the corners tends to look just a bit lighter (the effect of the location of the leds no doubt). Interestingly, when I changed my viewing angle to slightly from either side, this effect disappears. So the effect appears to be most prominent for the person sitting right in the middle.

Does anybody know how Film Mode should be used properly? I fiddled around with it for half an hour yesterday on all of its settings, and I just couldn't find a setting where it didn't make things worse. Like many of you in this forum, I have now turned it completely off.

Had to look carefully for the DSE mentioned in the review. It's there, but you have to go looking for it. I had to point it out to my wife and now she said that she wished I hadn't, because before she never knew it was there.

Dimly lit scenes are handled adequately (I wouldn't say excellently), although that may improve with a proper calibration, whcih I do intend to get done after about 150 hours or so.

This is the second Sharp model I've seen with a bit of natural lag between sound and lip-synch (my father's 60" has the same issue). Not a big deal, as I adjusted my receiver to compensate. 70 ms did the trick on all modes.

Haven't played with any of the apps yet, although my wife says that the Netflix interface for the TV is slightly superior to the playstation interface for Netflix.

Very happy so far. Will report again soon.
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Thanks Scrumhalf, the led strip is stuck to the back of the TV so that it shines on the wall more directly. The adhesive is not very strong so it can be removed easily and does not leave a residue or anything. There are a lot of people that use a back light for 'bias lighting' purposes which is supposed to reduce eye strain etc. But I think there are rules as to the amount and color temperature of the light you're supposed to use etc. I'd like to say I was doing all that but truthfully I just think it looks bad4ss.

Cool! Badass it certainly is! I might mosey over to barlighting.com and pick one up. my TV gets delivered on Saturday - can't wait!
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So 70-inches X 2 = 140/12(inches to feet)=11.6 feet.

70-inches X 3 = 210/(12(inches to feet) = 17.5 feet.

So between 11.6-17.5 feet?

I am about 13.4 feet away from the tv in my setup.

So you think I would be ok with such a large TV?

Thanks.


My couch is ~ 8 to 9 feet in front of the screen and it looks great. I don't see any pixels until I'm within 2 to 3 feet of the screen. Don't worry, be happy.
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So 70-inches X 2 = 140/12(inches to feet)=11.6 feet.

70-inches X 3 = 210/(12(inches to feet) = 17.5 feet.

So between 11.6-17.5 feet?

I am about 13.4 feet away from the tv in my setup.

So you think I would be ok with such a large TV?

Thanks.

Armornone, I am currently at 11 ft and I find it comfortable.
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Haha ill be 7 maybe 8 feet from mine. I've sat 3 ft from my 40 inch and I thought it was a perfect distance. Atleast when playing CoD lol.
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Does this set require a dongle to handle WiFi or is it built in?

120Hz refresh good enough for sports?

Too bad there is a big hump on the back (housing the speakers?) that makes it extra deep.
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Does this set require a dongle to handle WiFi or is it built in?

WiFi is built in.

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If any online dealers can come close to that HHEGG price at local store, I would jump on that right away. The 70-inch would make my own mini movie theater.
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I have noticed a slight difference in the black levels between the four corners of the tv and the rest of the screen when the image being displayed is black. As noticed by some on this forum previously, the image near the corners tends to look just a bit lighter (the effect of the location of the leds no doubt). Interestingly, when I changed my viewing angle to slightly from either side, this effect disappears. So the effect appears to be most prominent for the person sitting right in the middle.

It looks they calibrated backlight for direct view at every position. But the display is so big that when you sit in the center you see the edges at an angle which can not be neglected. When you change viewing you see them directly and backlight is uniform as they have calibrated it.

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It looks they calibrated backlight for direct view at every position. But the display is so big that when you sit in the center you see the edges at an angle which can not be neglected. When you change viewing you see them directly and backlight is uniform as they have calibrated it.

When I sit at about 12' back of the screen opposite the right edge with a white background I see the same amount of light drop off in all four corners.

I think it is just a matter of cutting corners (so to speak) on the LED array.

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