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post #91 of 3822 Old 04-01-2011, 10:35 PM
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Congrats rockaway.

Coming from DLP land, I am happy with this set. Hopefully you will enjoy it too.

Regarding TV pick up: I took the the lazy route out. $50 for delivery and install. $15 for pickup of my old DLP
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Sears in St. Petersburg, FL still don't have theirs

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Wait are u saying the 735/835 are the same TV??

732 (MSRP $3300) -- 120mhz, no local dimming, no 3D
735 (MSRP $4500) -- 240mhz, no local dimming, 3D??
835 ???
935 (about $5000) -- 240mhz, local dimming, 3D
the 835 is not available in 70" according to the youtube vid nick_083 posted above. @ around 6:48 in they say it's only available in 60, 52, 46 and 40". Edge lit w/o local dimming, 3D, 240hz. The 830 is the same minus the 3D and 240hz.

I believe that any time you get 240hz you will get 3D. I think it's just doubling the same 120hz technology for each eye. So if the 735 is 240hz, you can pretty much bank on it being 3D.
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Placed my order at the Freehold NJ Sears today. They had a 60" model in the store to look at. In stock at the warehouse plus they were running a 10% off promo in the store, so discounting is available.

It's hard to imagine that there will be a significantly better bang/buck ratio in the 70" category anytime soon, especially since I have no interest in current 3D technology which mostly just gives me headaches.

I have delivery scheduled for Thursday.

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I was waiting for 935 myself, but decided on 732 instead. 935 suppose to be close to $5K based on the Sharp interview from CES. I just couldn't justify this difference in price for 3D, which I won't likely watch or local dimming. Of course if the price difference would be less then $1k it is a completely different story.
Indeed if the added is only locdim+3D this is steep price increase. There is one possibility left though: that the 935 has another, more sophisticated panel. Let's say another color filter, another antiglare layer, improved viewing angle, tighter manufacturing specs. That would be making it killer of all other high-end TVs (65" Samsung D8000 & Sony HX929).

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Sears in St. Petersburg, FL still don't have theirs



the 835 is not available in 70" according to the youtube vid nick_083 posted above. @ around 6:48 in they say it's only available in 60, 52, 46 and 40". Edge lit w/o local dimming, 3D, 240hz. The 830 is the same minus the 3D and 240hz.

I believe that any time you get 240hz you will get 3D. I think it's just doubling the same 120hz technology for each eye. So if the 735 is 240hz, you can pretty much bank on it being 3D.
Also, don't forget about 733, which only adds 240Hz, but no 3D. I could actually see the specs on Sharp website last week, but now they locked down the dev area
http://dev-staging.sharpusa.com/en/F...spx?print=true
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Sears in St. Petersburg, FL still don't have theirs



the 835 is not available in 70" according to the youtube vid nick_083 posted above. @ around 6:48 in they say it's only available in 60, 52, 46 and 40". Edge lit w/o local dimming, 3D, 240hz. The 830 is the same minus the 3D and 240hz.

I believe that any time you get 240hz you will get 3D. I think it's just doubling the same 120hz technology for each eye. So if the 735 is 240hz, you can pretty much bank on it being 3D.
That makes a lot of sense.

So summarizing the info we have thus far it will most likely be:

732 ($3300) Available Now 120mhz, full array, no local dimming, no 3D
735 ($4500) Available June/July 240mhz, full array, no local dimming, 3D
935 (above $5000; maybe $5500?) Available Aug/Sept 240mhz, full array local dimming, 3D

The 732 is available now for close to $3k so the 735 will probably have a street price of $4k. I really would like to get the 3D but waiting till June means probably missing the NBA playoffs. Very tough decision; if the 735 were available now for $4k i would get it - not sure I can wait.
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What's the deal with only being able to order this at the store? If it were available on-line then it would qualify for FatWallet 5% cashback. Do they usually make new items in-store only?

Also I remember Sears used to have the 10% off anything you buy the day you apply for a Sears card, does that promotion come and go?
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Can one of yall have a look at the back label and see if it can take 240V? The manual only lists 120V but I've found sometimes the actual sticker shows 120-240V voltage is acceptable.

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Sears has a 10% online promotion but the Sharp LC-70LE732U is only available in-store online. I asked about the Sears credit card offer but it's only for 18 month 0% interest.

I took a look at this beast at the Fry's in Fremont, CA and noticed during fast moving scenes the images had artifacts? (I turned down the 120hz motion and noise reduction off and it seemed to have solved the issue, but not sure if fast motion is an issue with Sharp) Any owners care to comment?
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Sears has a 10% online promotion but the Sharp LC-70LE732U is only available in-store online. I asked about the Sears credit card offer but it's only for 18 month 0% interest.

I took a look at this beast at the Fry's in Fremont, CA and noticed during fast moving scenes the images had artifacts? (I turned down the 120hz motion and noise reduction off and it seemed to have solved the issue, but not sure if fast motion is an issue with Sharp) Any owners care to comment?

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The blurriness was caused mainly by noise reduction. After turning that off and experimenting with a few other selections, I felt that motion was crisp and correct.
I doubt the 240Hz would make much difference, mainly because I didn't see any issues. But I admit I did not test sports. Some of the selections I played had fast motion, though.

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I notice the most motion blurring watching basketball live on my older Sharp LCD. When one of you that just purchased this set gets a chance to watch some live sports can you please report back on any motion blurring. TIA.
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I had a chance to watch a little basketball, baseball, and boxing. I was watching for blurring and didn't see any at all. I have yet to change any settings on the TV , just have not had time yet to do so.
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For those who care, spoke with a contact I've made at amazon that did some research. Appears they will be selling this set "very soon"
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I had a chance to watch a little basketball, baseball, and boxing. I was watching for blurring and didn't see any at all. I have yet to change any settings on the TV yet, just have not had time yet to do so.

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Hello folks
This is my first post. Glad to be a part of it. Many thanks to Chad for his review.

I just ordered this 70 inch tv and plan to wall mount it.

What would be the best low profile wall-mount for this TV ? Would appreciate any feedback.

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Good morning to all. Now that a few of you have had an opportunity to view and purchase the new 70 inch Sharp, I am really looking for feedback. Things like motion blur and artifacts? last week both Sears and Best buy where going to get them in so I could see the set, but neither came through for me. I would love to have a new set on the wall for the Masters this week. Also to Chad and Chris, I would really like to see some settings so I could quickly tweek a set at one of my local stores to get a good idea.
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Good morning to all. Now that a few of you have had an opportunity to view and purchase the new 70 inch Sharp, I am really looking for feedback. Things like motion blur and artifacts? last week both Sears and Best buy where going to get them in so I could see the set, but neither came through for me. .

I watched 8 hours of World Cup Cricket Final on this set. I was looking out for motion artifacts. Didn't find them. Overall very happy with the set. Blows my old DLP away.

Only complaint I have is the reflections. I have a window on the side of the TV and the reflections during daytime are tad bit annoying. I will have to buy some drapes to cover the window up.
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Here's an article I found about 735 a while ago - supposedly it's edge-lit with local dimming and 3D. But I don't trust their info as they claimed 732 to be edge-lit as well, which was not the case
http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/...lc70le735.html

Thanks for posting that review. I have been disappointed by the non-interest that manufacturers have shown in actual big screen (70+") TV's and hoping for something like this set to take the place of my 70" Sony XBR2 when the optical block fails (so far, so good). I will be looking forward to seeing one, and the price seems to be almost unbelieveably low. A couple of years ago, $3K would have got you a mediocre 46" set.
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Only complaint I have is the reflections. I have a window on the side of the TV and the reflections during daytime are tad bit annoying. I will have to buy some drapes to cover the window up.

I don't find it any more reflective than any of my newer LCD and LED-LCD TVs. I have a 40 inch Sony, 55 inch Samsung, 52 inch Sharp, and a 42 inch Vizio. All of them are about the same as far as reflective screens go. I also own three 32 inch, one 42 inch,and one 47 inch Westinghouse TVs. All of those have little to no reflection at all. Most of the Westys are about 4 years old, of the others I think the oldest is about 2 1/2 years. I think the trend in newer sets seems to be going with a more reflective screen. Not a crisis in my case. Having grown up in the 60s in a CRT world when reflective was the norm.

My new toy is in a rough place for light. It's in my garage. ( Man Cave ) It has 2 windows behind it (on either side ) and I do most of my TV viewing with the garage door open. ( Screen door closed to keep out bugs ) I also removed the builders overhead lights and replaced them with 2 ceiling fans which have 4 CFL bulbs each. I seldom (unless it's a BD movie) watch my TV in the dark. While there is some screen reflection, I hardly notice it
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This is my first post. Glad to be a part of it. Many thanks to Chad for his review.I just ordered this 70 inch tv and plan to wall mount it. What would be the best low profile wall-mount for this TV ? Would appreciate any feedback.
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Thanks for the information on the brackets. Can you or Chad please post the final settings that worked best after all the calibration work. Would be very helpful to several of us and would be much appreciated as well.
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Thanks for posting that review. I have been disappointed by the non-interest that manufacturers have shown in actual big screen (70+") TV's and hoping for something like this set to take the place of my 70" Sony XBR2 when the optical block fails (so far, so good). I will be looking forward to seeing one, and the price seems to be almost unbelieveably low. A couple of years ago, $3K would have got you a mediocre 46" set.

Yeah, pretty amazing how much the prices have fallen!
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Thanks for the information on the brackets. Can you or Chad please post the final settings that worked best after all the calibration work. Would be very helpful to several of us and would be much appreciated as well.
Thanks !

There's no way on GOD's green earth that Chad or any other pro is going to post their settings. As much as we would all love to have even a hint of them it ain't gonna happen. They make their living doing what they do. To just post even a clue would not serve them well. Besides that, I believe that all units of the same model number can have different tweak settings.
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I went back to Fry's for another look at the Sharp and it seems to me that the details seem softer than the Samsung Plasma next to it. Will calibration enhance the sharpness? I'm using a 46 inch 720p LCD Samsung 15 feet away for the past year and I'm not sure if I can wait any longer.....
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I find it interesting that the base model is fully LED back lit, but NOT locally dimmable. It would seem to me that the cost involved in local dimming comes from actually putting all those LEDs there, not the controller and firmware to do it.
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I find it interesting that the base model is fully LED back lit, but NOT locally dimmable. It would seem to me that the cost involved in local dimming comes from actually putting all those LEDs there, not the controller and firmware to do it.

Yes and no. In such very cost pressing product, connecting the LEDs to control them separately plus contoller and software results in much different design and this adds to cost. The current model is just like old CCFL.

But there is another reason: product differentiation. They position the current model as kind of low-end monster-which-looks high-end for the masses. Locdim+3D is then real high-end with much higher price and nice profits - which is still bargain for videophiles. Clever strategy, Sharp can fully use the fact competitors do not have 10G plants and can not produce so cheaply.

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I went back to Fry's for another look at the Sharp and it seems to me that the details seem softer than the Samsung Plasma next to it. Will calibration enhance the sharpness? I'm using a 46 inch 720p LCD Samsung 15 feet away for the past year and I'm not sure if I can wait any longer.....

Often the plasma has more of a CRT mirror look (YUCK) which may appear Sharper but the downfall they are usually much more reflective and you are competing with the inventory of your room staring back at you and if your used to LCD without the mirror look it's a PITA especially in a bright sunny room with large windows. Been there done that and never again.

Also, look beyond the Sharpness and observe the WHITES comparatively which are just as important as the Blacks and you'll find the LCD will blow away any plasma and comparatively you'll be staring at dirty looking white with sometimes a yellow urinated look on the plasma whites and duller during daytime viewing.

My Samsung C6400 LED has semi reflective where it mirrors sometimes with blacks but the rest of the time I do not notice reflections and of course on my matte Sharp I have no reflections whatsoever and once you get used to that for 6-7 years a plasma truly is horrendous and washes out in a bright sunny room.

Some things to look at far beyond Sharpness which is adjustable in the menu. Seems you definitely need a 65"-70" panel at 15' as you'd have zero HT immersion factor with a 46".

Samsung 65F8000, 60D8000, 40HU6350, Panasonic 50E60 LCD's
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Well it's time to make a decision. I have been waiting for about a year to purchase a new tv. Last year I was going to purchase the Samsung UN65C8000, but was not overly impressed and really didn't care for the thick silver bezel. I have it down to the following. 1. Sharp LC-70LE732. 2. Samsung plamas, either the PN64D7000 ot the Samsung PN64D8000. 3. Samsung UN65D8000. Out of these 4 tv which one will give the best PQ with the least amount of flaws. For some reason I am still nervous about plasmas. I still have not seen the Sharp in person, but hope to do so today. PLEASE HEL. It's time to pull the trigger.
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But there is another reason: product differentiation. They position the current model as kind of low-end monster-which-looks high-end for the masses. Locdim+3D is then real high-end with much higher price and nice profits - which is still bargain for videophiles. Clever strategy, Sharp can fully use the fact competitors do not have 10G plants and can not produce so cheaply.
I was thinking the same thing. But, if there is not much of difference when comparing this unit side-by-side with the local-dimming model, the projected price difference may have to be reduced. This also applies to the 3D aspect, which has lost appeal to many people (myself included) since being introduced - that would also be easy to live without for an extra grand. The major selling point is the big, high-quality image, which the 732 already appears to have.
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