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#1 ·
I wanted to start a new thread for the 2011 LG LK Series. I almost bought a 42LK520 today but I am concerned since it is so new and there is zero information/reviews out.


I'm also interested to see if there will be a panel lottery for these sets too.
 
#52 ·

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Originally Posted by emmat2011 /forum/post/20434485


Actually I had the 47lk520 with a w in the bar code, but I got rid of it to get the lk530 now my question is does anybody know why isn't this model on the LG website which I got to chat to one of the representatives and he ask me from where did I get this tv? I got this tv from a local furniture store ..he said that model its not yet available in the us market! Then how did I get this model then? Which it is kind of weird that only Amazon has the lk530 for sale! As I understand the lk530 is better than the lk520 because it has the smart tv feature. I also found this model on the abt website and its listed as discontinued! That's weird since this model has only been available for 2 months according to another thread. If anybody knows anything about the lk530 please respond, thanks in advance.

I have the 47LD520, which is last year's model and I love it! Sounds to me like the LK530 is a European model but I haven't kept up with the new LG series. Just because it has SmartTV doesn't make it better. What you are looking for is pq quality, not add-on features. The LD520 has the S-IPS panel, haven't a clue as to what the LK530 has.
 
#53 ·
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Originally Posted by Otto Pylot
It's not yet confirmed that LG has continued it's product code labeling in respect to the S-IPS panels. If LG follows the 2010 product coding, then no, you don't have an S-IPS panel because there isn't a "W" in the product code. It could be an e-IPS or an H-IPS. However, until more people start doing the "loupe" test (magnifying lens) and look for the chevron-shaped pixel pattern (
 
#59 ·

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Originally Posted by djams /forum/post/20436755


S-IPS and, I would imagine Alpha-IPS in the high end sets.

Panasonic advertises IPS Alpha in their sets, and they aren't expensive.


Panasonic VIERA TC-L32U3 32-Inch 1080p LCD HDTV
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=ATVPDKIKX0DER


Not sure whether S-IPS or IPS Alpha is better though. Kudos to Panasonic for at least listing the panel type rather than having a ridiculous panel lottery.
 
#60 ·

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Originally Posted by Antipodes /forum/post/20442968


Panasonic advertises IPS Alpha in their sets, and they aren't expensive.


Panasonic VIERA TC-L32U3 32-Inch 1080p LCD HDTV



Not sure whether S-IPS or IPS Alpha is better though. Kudos to Panasonic for at least listing the panel type rather than having a ridiculous panel lottery.

Moving Picture Resolution: 300 Lines... Yikes.


I'll stick with LG instead for now. Panasonic's pretty much new to the LCD game and their picture settings aren't as versatile as LG's yet!
 
#61 ·

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Originally Posted by mkn0927 /forum/post/20443879


Moving Picture Resolution: 300 Lines... Yikes.


I'll stick with LG instead for now. Panasonic's pretty much new to the LCD game and their picture settings aren't as versatile as LG's yet!

I think you'll be happy with an LG. This is my first LCD but I can't imagine a tv any better or with as many features for the price that I paid for my 47LD520. And once you correctly calibrate it.... my oh my
 
#62 ·
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Originally Posted by mkn0927
Does LK520 use IPS-Alpha panel? or would I have to buy a top-end LED model for that?


Also, I've heard LG uses S-IPS as their main panel tech. Never heard of LG using IPS-Alpha panels.
So I went off in search of my source for my IPS-Alpha statement, and it turns out that I stand corrected. What I meant was "AS-IPS" in the high end sets (according to my source: http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-l...l#post10716979 ) I got the terminology confused.


Thanks for questioning the mis-statement.
 
#63 ·
I just purchased a 32LK450 at Best Buy this last Saturday. They had it on sale for $50 off. I could have purchased online for less money, but I wanted to have an easy to return it if I don't like it.


I have it connected to my computer via the HDMI1 port. I just hooked it up and am tweaking it now. So far, I am really liking it (only two hours of use), so I will probably keep it.
 
#64 ·

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Originally Posted by mkn0927 /forum/post/20443879


Moving Picture Resolution: 300 Lines... Yikes.


I'll stick with LG instead for now. Panasonic's pretty much new to the LCD game and their picture settings aren't as versatile as LG's yet!

Do you even know what moving picture resolution means? Because I didn't and assumed that just meant 60 hz, which is the same as the LK450. And my quick search seems to imply that too.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post20292165


Don't discount Panasonic, especially considering they were the set to get for gaming prior to last year.


If I sound annoyed it is because I hate 1) people who comment on specs they don't understand 2) make unhelpful generalizations.
 
#65 ·

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Originally Posted by dragon57 /forum/post/20444839


I just purchased a 32LK450 at Best Buy this last Saturday. They had it on sale for $50 off. I could have purchased online for less money, but I wanted to have an easy to return it if I don't like it.


I have it connected to my computer via the HDMI1 port. I just hooked it up and am tweaking it now. So far, I am really liking it (only two hours of use), so I will probably keep it.

what product code did you get? CUSD or CUSY?
 
#66 ·

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Originally Posted by djams /forum/post/20436760


@kanedo - wondering how things are going on the calibration?

@djams - Thanks for your tips. Using the 10pt IRE, I've now gotten really accurate gamma, temperature, and luminance curves. However, I'm still struggling with the color gamut. I'm still getting red and green primaries that are outside the BT709 gamut. If I drop the red and green in CMS to match the reference, then my red and green luminance goes way down. Could you offer some suggestions to this? Could you explain the 75% technique?


Thanks.
 
#67 ·

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Originally Posted by kanedo /forum/post/0



@djams - Thanks for your tips. Using the 10pt IRE, I've now gotten really accurate gamma, temperature, and luminance curves. However, I'm still struggling with the color gamut. I'm still getting red and green primaries that are outside the BT709 gamut. If I drop the red and green in CMS to match the reference, then my red and green luminance goes way down. Could you offer some suggestions to this? Could you explain the 75% technique?


Thanks.

You're very welcome.


Could you post (or PM would probably be better) your latest .chc file? I'd like to look at the color readings before giving advice. I'll try to look at it later tonight.
 
#68 ·

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Originally Posted by Antipodes /forum/post/20445963


Do you even know what moving picture resolution means? Because I didn't and assumed that just meant 60 hz, which is the same as the LK450. And my quick search seems to imply that too.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post20292165


Don't discount Panasonic, especially considering they were the set to get for gaming prior to last year.


If I sound annoyed it is because I hate 1) people who comment on specs they don't understand 2) make unhelpful generalizations.

300 Moving Picture Resolution is VERY low according to this comparison chart. Please do yourself a favor and steer clear away from that horrible LCD!!!


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1066429


Panasonic's great if you're buying plasma tv's. But when it comes to LCD's, LG, Samsung and Sony seem to be the best from all the reviews I've read AND the showroom tv's I've seen compare to the Panasonic's.
 
#69 ·

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Originally Posted by mkn0927 /forum/post/20446646


300 Moving Picture Resolution is VERY low according to this comparison chart. Please do yourself a favor and steer clear away from that horrible LCD!!!


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1066429


Panasonic's great if you're buying plasma tv's. But when it comes to LCD's, LG, Samsung and Sony seem to be the best from all the reviews I've read AND the showroom tv's I've seen compare to the Panasonic's.

60hz ~= 300 motion picture resolution. Apparently, that makes the LK450 also "yikes" and a "horrible LCD!!!
"

http://hdguru.com/how-to-pick-the-right-hdtv/2630/


"Standard LCDs incorporate a 60 Hz refresh rate. This produces motion resolution of around 320 lines (per picture height) out of a possible1080 lines. 120 Hz refresh ups the motion resolution to around 600 lines, while 240 Hz kicks it up to 900 lines or higher."

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post17709239

http://www.avforums.com/forums/14595311-post3.html
 
#70 ·

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Originally Posted by kanedo /forum/post/20446300


If I drop the red and green in CMS to match the reference, then my red and green luminance goes way down. Could you offer some suggestions to this? Could you explain the 75% technique?

The problem I encountered with my 2010 LD series is that the CMS controls for primaries don't adjust 'right' when using 100% color windows. However, if a 75% saturation window is used, the color and tint adjustments behave as they should.


Here is a very good post that describes adjusting CMS using 75% saturations:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1134710


Using this approach, I was able to make CMS adjustments that improved my primaries, where previously (using 100% color) my adjustments always made the deltaE's worse.


Be sure to grab the calibration aid spreadsheet that's linked in the thread - it's very handy.
 
#71 ·

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Originally Posted by emmat2011 /forum/post/20434485


Actually I had the 47lk520 with a w in the bar code, but I got rid of it to get the lk530 now my question is does anybody know why isn't this model on the LG website which I got to chat to one of the representatives and he ask me from where did I get this tv? I got this tv from a local furniture store ..he said that model its not yet available in the us market! Then how did I get this model then? Which it is kind of weird that only Amazon has the lk530 for sale! As I understand the lk530 is better than the lk520 because it has the smart tv feature. I also found this model on the abt website and its listed as discontinued! That's weird since this model has only been available for 2 months according to another thread. If anybody knows anything about the lk530 please respond, thanks in advance.

From what I heard where I work, the LK530 series was a step up from the LK520 series, it added connectivity and the "Magic Remote." LG decided not to go forward with the series and only produced limited number of the LK530s.
 
#72 ·

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Originally Posted by Antipodes /forum/post/20447685


60hz ~= 300 motion picture resolution. Apparently, that makes the LK450 also "yikes" and a "horrible LCD!!!
"

http://hdguru.com/how-to-pick-the-right-hdtv/2630/


"Standard LCDs incorporate a 60 Hz refresh rate. This produces motion resolution of around 320 lines (per picture height) out of a possible1080 lines. 120 Hz refresh ups the motion resolution to around 600 lines, while 240 Hz kicks it up to 900 lines or higher."

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post17709239

http://www.avforums.com/forums/14595311-post3.html

I'll trust scientific measurements over random quotes. Thanks anyway Panasonic rep!


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1066429
 
#73 ·

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Originally Posted by cj1319 /forum/post/0



From what I heard where I work, the LK530 series was a step up from the LK520 series, it added connectivity and the "Magic Remote." LG decided not to go forward with the series and only produced limited number of the LK530s.

Yes that's what I thought , i was apparently the only one that had that model, so I decided to return it and I picked up the 47lv5500
 
#74 ·
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Originally Posted by djams
The problem I encountered with my 2010 LD series is that the CMS controls for primaries don't adjust 'right' when using 100% color windows. However, if a 75% saturation window is used, the color and tint adjustments behave as they should.


Here is a very good post that describes adjusting CMS using 75% saturations:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1134710




Using this approach, I was able to make CMS adjustments that improved my primaries, where previously (using 100% color) my adjustments always made the deltaE's worse.


Be sure to grab the calibration aid spreadsheet that's linked in the thread - it's very handy.
UPDATE: Incorrect calibration file included. Do not use. I'll have new corrected on up soon.


djams,


I've been calibrating my 32LD450 using the above mentioned 75% saturation method. In HCFR, I'm actually using 8points for saturation rather than 4 points, and it seems that my saturation is pretty good up to 87%. Of course after that, it shoots up to quite high. At least 87% of my colors should stay fairly true to rec709. I'm attaching my HCFR file for you to check out.


Thanks again for all the help.


P.S. Out of curiousity, does your Eye-One Display2 work with Lacie's Blue Eye Pro software?


.

 

32LD450 proper saturation.chc.zip 7.6376953125k . file
 

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#75 ·

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Originally Posted by emmat2011 /forum/post/20452765


Yes that's what I thought , i was apparently the only one that had that model, so I decided to return it and I picked up the 47lv5500

@emmat,


On your 47LV5500, is the Edge Enhancer forced to High for isf Expert menus in PC-input mode? Vice versa, is Edge Enhancer forced to High for non-PC input mode?
 
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