Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U
However, copying settings and/or trying to set advanced picture settings like grayscale, gamma, and CMS controls by eye with test patterns alone is not only a waste of time but it also provides no guarantee of making the picture any closer to the reference standards. At best, the image is no better than when you started and at worst, it is much worse than when you started. These two approaches are simply ineffective and just plain pointless. This has been proven time and time again by calibrators, both DIY and professional. They are not viable alternatives to actual calibration, only using a setup disc to set the basic controls properly by eye is.
And this is the AV Science forum, so making white balance worse from a technical perspective is not something to encourage nor recommend to new TV owners/users of AVS. I don't think AVS needs any more posters contributing to the misinformation all too common on this side of the display forum.
Well, this IS an owner's thread not a calibration thread. Posters come here with a perceived picture issue looking for help. "Go buy a meter" or "Get a professional calibration" just isn't a very helpful response.
I personally had no luck with "other people's settings" - and I tried a bunch of them. That's why I ended up with a meter. But plenty of folks have had success with borrowed settings - good for them. Sure there's no way that their set would "measure right" per the standards. But it doesn't matter. Take for example the owner a few pages back who said he's got his picture set on Vivid and is loving every minute of it. Awesome.
To best explain how I see our difference of opinion on this topic I'll present a fictitious dialog between a new owner of this set and someone with your rigid point of view:[New owner]:
Hey everybody! I just picked up one of these bad boys and plugged in the CNET review settings. Picture looks awesome - you guys should check these settings out. Here's a link...[Calibration Purist]:
No, no, no - you can't do that. Sharing display menu settings between different sets will not work. You've made the picture worse.[New owner]:
But I really didn't like the way the picture looked before I entered the CNET settings. The picture had a yellowish-green cast to it that kind of strained my eyes to watch.[Calibration Purist]:
The settings you have changed can only be set with a meter on your specific TV, in your specific environment.[New owner]:
But I really can't afford to buy a meter, and I don't have any idea how to use one. And it really does look better to me with the CNET settings.[Calibration Purist]:
Well, you probably have no idea what the picture is supposed to look like in the first place - and trust me, you have certainly created a situation in which your set is far from established industry standards. You would be better off not using display menu settings developed on another TV.[New owner]:
So I should reset it?[Calibration Purist]:
Ok. Bummer...[Calibration Purist]:
You are doing the right thing.
I hope you can see how ridiculous this looks.