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post #91 of 171 Old 01-14-2012, 01:34 PM
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I'm upgrading from an old school CRT and regular digital cable, so forgive me if I have no idea what I'm talking about.

I just bought the 22" D5000. It's hooked up to our HD box via an HDMI cable. When I press the info button, it's showing the screen resolution as 1280x720. I was under the impression this was a full 1080p TV.

I can't seem to find anywhere to change this. Does anyone have any tips/advice/solutions?
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I just bought the 22" D5000. It's hooked up to our HD box via an HDMI cable. When I press the info button, it's showing the screen resolution as 1280x720. I was under the impression this was a full 1080p TV.

I can't seem to find anywhere to change this. Does anyone have any tips/advice/solutions?

The 22UND5000 has a native resolution of 1920x1080 pixels and is 1080P capable. However, 1080P source material is still rare (e.g. B-Ray), most broadcast content is produced in 720P (1280x720) or 1080i (1920x1080).

Your HD box (or provider) was only sending 1280x720 resolution (at least for the program watched at the time). Therefore your set had to down scale from 1920x1080 to 1280x720 resolution.

Check other program channels and your HD box menu to see if it is set to 1080i. If not call your service provider.

Not to long ago a lot of TVs were only 1280x720 capable and you may need a newer HD box (or your provider is behind the technology curve).
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Ahhh, thank you! I thought I would go crazy searching the menus lol.
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I was curious as to the difference between the D5000 and D5003 models, besides the lower MSRP on the D5003.

After a quick low at the Samsung site, the D5003 has a lower dynamic range (20,000:1 vs. 3,200,000:1) and less features / connectivity.

For example, PIP (picture in picture), Game Mode, Connect Share, digital audio output are items not mentioned in the D5003 specifications.

Perhaps a D5003 owner can confirm?

Wondering the same thing. Picked up the D5003 from BB tonight for our (small) bedroom and there was much confusion about difference between this model and the 5000. To his credit, one of the guys spent a lot of time trying to help us discern the differences. Besides the cosmetic differences, it appears the 5000 is Energy Star certified while the 5003 is not. The 5003 also has slightly more powerful speakers (which may be why it lost its Energy Star cert.?). Neither TV is 120hz, which is what had us most confused for a while.

There's a surprising dearth of info about the 5003 around, even here on AVS. I guess my best bet is simply to crack it open and try it out. Ultimately, I wanted to go bigger, but wife wanted it to fit on top of the dresser and is wary of trying to mount it on the wall (we live in a 1925 bungalow with plaster walls and mounting things on them can often be a crapshoot).
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At the Samsung website both the 22D5000 and 22D5003 are listed and a comparison of the features can be setup there.
The 5003 doesn't have several of the 5000's inputs and outputs including the PC/VGA and audio input, headphone and digital audio outputs, also AnyNet+ feature.
The 5000 lists 3,200,000:1 Dynamic Contrast Ratio and the 5003 lists only 20,000:1 Dynamic Contrast Ratio.
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In the UK and considering getting the UE40D5000 (the European version of the UN40D5000) for use primarily as a PC monitor. I've seen a couple of scattered reports of horrific motion blur, can anyone confirm? And is the UE definitely 60hz and not 50hz? Specifically when connected to a PC via HDMI?
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Hi all. I just got the UN22D5003, plugged it in via hdmi to my hd cable box, and it looks pretty bad. I messed around with calibrations and was able to make it look slightly better, but my current Samsung LN19A650 (720p, 60mhz, 3000:1 contrast) is so much clearer, ( i''ve moved the hdmi cable from 1 set to the other during the same scene of a show to make sure, and the 5003 looks awful in clarity in comparison, so perhaps i have one really obvious setting wrong?

During commericials i've seen words cut off at the edge, by an inch or so (i'm in 16:9). what could i have missed/done wrong? It really sucks, looked nice in the store though, better than all others around it, (well, the 5000 did, they didn't have the 5003 on display), and i see tons of reviews raving about the picture of it so i'm just hoping there's something i've missed.
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The 5003 is a version of the 5000 that left out some features, connectivity to provide a lower price point however, the picture quality should be comparable.

First, check your HD STB to be sure its output is now set for 1080 resolution.

If it's set to 720, that could account for the poor PQ and edge cutoff (e.g. scaling). Also make sure your 5003 is not set to any zoom mode.

As noted earlier in the thread, there was a firmware upgrade to improve SD content.

After buying the first UN22D5000 to use as a PC monitor/spare TV (love the PIP feature), based on the PQ, I bought another to use on BR night stand.
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The 5003 is a version of the 5000 that left out some features, connectivity to provide a lower price point however, the picture quality should be comparable.

First, check your HD STB to be sure its output is now set for 1080 resolution.

If it's set to 720, that could account for the poor PQ and edge cutoff (e.g. scaling). Also make sure your 5003 is not set to any zoom mode.

As noted earlier in the thread, there was a firmware upgrade to improve SD content.

After buying the first UN22D5000 to use as a PC monitor/spare TV (love the PIP feature), based on the PQ, I bought another to use on BR night stand.

Hmmm. Well, the TV is showing that *it* is actually set for 720, and my last tv was 720, so it still should be okay with both of them set at 720, right? dunno. Having trouble finding 1080 on the cable box, lol, i'll keep trying, but both set at 720 should be okay i think.

yeah, not set at zoom mode, but funnily enough, it does seem like it's stretched, so i'll try fiddle around with the 720/1080.
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Hey guys, got the 40D5003 the other day. Really enjoying the set but wondered if anyone had calibrated gtheirs yet.
Ive done brightness, contrast and colour but not white balance or gamma as i just dont know how too.

Ive noticed it looking a little blue and think having the right settings dialed in might be the fix.

Can anyone help out with some settings please?
Thanks.
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Ive noticed it looking a little blue and think having the right settings dialed in might be the fix.

Can anyone help out with some settings please?
Thanks.

Try warm1 or warm2 to reduce excessive blue.
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Try warm1 or warm2 to reduce excessive blue.

Seriously, warm 2 is the only way i can get a white on this tv (instead of an ugly blue to grey)

but the saturation on this television is crazy, what are the levels that i need to get some possibly normal looking colors? Like grass looks insane, but even when i bring "color" (saturation) all the way down to 32/100 but grass is still insane and pinks are blinding and blues are popping off the screen, and with the color down to 32 some scenes and some colors (browns: sand, skin, wood, etc) just look drab while still featuring insane greens, yellows and reds. man, i am hating the colors on this tv, but surely there must be a solution, or no one would keep this tv.

Has anyone else not been able to find normal colors for television watching? or is it just me.

(backlight 8, contrast 75-80, brightness 50-70, ...so nothing that would give these colors any reason to behave like this, my white balances are all set in the low 20s). and not only are those colors totally overly intense, but they all end up being the same blue, the same green. All the green/blue/red colors are so exaggerated and fake looking. So frustrating.
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Both of my UN22D5000 sets have great PQ/color.

Your settings don't seem right.

As a rule of thumb (which applies to adjusting other sets as well).......contrast should be set high (95-100), brightness half of that (40-50), sharpness low (20-30) and black light +/- 15. Just left while balance at factory settings (25). As to color tone, I use warm 1
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has anyone properly calibrated their set yet to do white balance, if so what were the results?
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Both of my UN22D5000 sets have great PQ/color.

Your settings don't seem right.

As a rule of thumb (which applies to adjusting other sets as well).......contrast should be set high (95-100), brightness half of that (40-50), sharpness low (20-30) and black light +/- 15. Just left while balance at factory settings (25). As to color tone, I use warm 1

So weird. What on earth could be wrong with my tv? Is there any way my tv could be bad? i keep reading people say it looks fine at factory settings, but i am definitely not imagining how horrible mine looks at factory or other settings. What on earth could it be? i mean, i can't imagine the tv would be bad, because for all the searches i have done regarding the 5000/5003, no one has said theirs was as awful (or even bad). I know i'm not imagining things, because when i watch my samsung 19", the colors are fine, youtube videos on my 4 year old laptop, fine.
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And even the clarity is poorer on my 5003 vs. my old samsung tv. Here's the difference btwn my new sumsung d5003 (pic 1). Both are at the same settings.

Pic 1. New Samsung un22d5003. Image not looking so good and neutral colors wash out:


pic 2: my original 19" samsung, fabulous in every way.



See how horrible the 5003 is? Both are in HD, my settings are correct as far as the 720/1080 settings. I just switched back to factory color settings on the 5003, blues are purple, reds too purple and highly saturated and unrealistic, greens are bizarre (although i didn't take a photo of those yet) and colors you see on the screen here, neutral colors, are blah, and the picture isn't even as clear. I called samsung yesterday about the images not being as clear as on my old samsung, after we checked my settings and switched my 720/1080 settings they recommended i switch out my cable box. I went to time warner, got a new cable box, and lo and behold, nothing changed on the clarity and the colors suck.

I didn't have any luck taking pics of the opposite color problem of extreme saturation, my camera keeps adjusting for it! lol, but out of the same screen with a yellow wall, my original samsugn looks normal, and the new samsung has it as a bright florescent greeny yellow, both at the exact same settings.

Any ideas?
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is your hdmi level on low? try that...
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is your hdmi level on low? try that...

Hmmm. That option i haven't seen. Where would one find that? My source options don't seem to have that as an option, or hdmi1 or hdmi2 sort of thing.

I just got off the phone with samsung, they have no idea what it could be and told me they could have me send it back, but I ALSO bought the 26D4003 and am having the same problem with it. I literally have all 3 tv's set up right next to each other, only my original (2009) sammy 19" lcd is appropriate. What in the heck? I mean, i'm not seeing things, right? does it seem that pic 2 is better than pic1? and pic 1 doesn't look so hot at all, right? and i don't just think it's a case of "they just don't make 'em like they used to".

The tech at samsung said "well, our 2011 tv's do have greater contrast, you might just be used to the lower contrast?", i told her even when i turn the contrast down the issue isn't resolved. She's having a level 2 tech call me back in 1.5 hours.
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alrighty, just got off the phone with samsung tech level 2, they have no idea what it could be. we played a dvd, same problem, so i know it's not the cable box. He recs going to get a new hdmi cable, even though my hdmi cable does produce good clarity and color on my sammy 19in. This is so bizarre. I asked him if i could send him the photos so that he could see, he didn't have the capability to view them. :P!
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go to your contrast brightness etc and go to picture options, set hdmi black level to low.
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ok, Tried changing the black value on hdmi, not an option, well, an option, but not under "standard" or "movie" mode.

But now i'm officially totally baffled. I just came back from Best Buy and returned the samsung 26d4003, but still have the un22d5003. When i first left the house, i swear it was like "Oh yeah, so that's what people look like".

While at best buy i went to double check the 5000 they had on display. What is very odd, is that there it was, white people's faces were overly peach or tan most of the time, or the opposite, pale and greyish, and black people's faces were often washed out. blues and greens were popping off the screen while neutrals were slightly washed out. The poor bear jumping for the fish in the nature scene was sort of not quite a rich brown, but faded compared to the tv next to it. The fish he caught was just like the guy's outfit in pic #1, all sorta one color, even though i know he wasn't. I didn't notice any greenish tinge on some faces like on my 5003, and scene's seemed were possible a *little* clearer than mine but just like my pic above (probably just the difference btwn the "store" setting and "home" setting), details were much less clear than my old 19 (or any other tv i can remember watching in the last half decade).

I thought, maybe i'm just getting old and bright and fake primary colors are the new thing, and neutrals being washed out in comparison are how things are these days, lol, so i went to the geek squad guy and showed him the photos that i posted above, he agreed with me that the 1st pic looked very bad compared to pic 2. i said, 'it is, right? it's not just me?' he said, anyone could see that one is better. So maybe it is a case of they just don't make 'em like they used to, but i know you guys know a lot so i know someone would have mentioned that these days colors are just bizarre. But even after that, i walked down the street and thought, let me compare with reality, nope, green greys were different than greys (like 2nd pic above), colors didn't come in the 2 modes of either flourescent or blah. So after all that, the best i can come up with is i'm just not hip to the new thing of non-realistic color.

Just ordered a new hdmi cable, and based on my trip to best buy, pretty sure that won't work. and ordered a new battery charger for my camera, since i just misplaced it, so i can take more photos and send them to samsung and they can tell me whether it's the new thing and i'm just stuck in the 3 years ago realistic color thing. *Frustrated*. If they tell me pictures like the 5003 pic #1 is better than pic 2, my old sammy that i think looks better, then i'll just return and get something different.
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I just checked and the HDMI black level (e.g. adjusts the screen depth) on my 5000 can be set to low or normal (looked best set to low).

I was wondering if this was one of the features that was eliminated on the 5003 model, to meet the lower price sales point.

I went to Samsung's support page to look at the user manual and found no information on the 5003 model (e.g. manual, firware updates etc.), just for the 5000 medel.

Have you checked your 'on screen' user manual to see if the HDMI level can be adjusted (the 5000 manual does cover it)?
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I just checked and the HDMI black level (e.g. adjusts the screen depth) on my 5000 can be set to low or normal (looked best set to low).

I was wondering if this was one of the features that was eliminated on the 5003 model, to meet the lower price sales point.

I went to Samsung's support page to look at the user manual and found no information on the 5003 model (e.g. manual, firware updates etc.), just for the 5000 medel.

Have you checked your 'on screen' user manual to see if the HDMI level can be adjusted (the 5000 manual does cover it)?

The option is there, but my up/down button just skips over it, it's greyed out. Poor Ben on the Bachelor, his probably light brown horse is a shade of baby diar**h. lol. and the girl he's on a date with is wearing a similar color sweater, it's not cute. lol. (well, in some scene's it does look like a decent okay yellow)

(if i should post about my problem with the TV in a different thread, let me know, i don't want to put this in the wrong place and bother people talking about the tv problems i'm having with this thing if it's not supposed to be here. new to the forum, not really sure)
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This is the Samsung 5000 series owners thread and the right place to discuss ownership experience.

When a menu item is grayed out, it just means not available/functional/adjustable.

What does your 5003 user manual say in regard to HDMI level adjustment being available?
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This is the Samsung 5000 series owners thread and the right place to discuss ownership experience.

When a menu item is grayed out, it just means not available/functional/adjustable.

What does your 5003 user manual say in regard to HDMI level adjustment being available?

It says, "Available only in HMDI mode (RGB signals)."

update: omg, the settings are the same as they have been, factory set "movie" (because that's better than starnard). and all the sudden skin tones in many scenes are much better, people have more realistic skin tone, and not every primary color looks the same, silver cars are silver and not just some odd light blobby grey, but there's a new heavier green tinge to things and the black is like pitch black and everything is darker (dark brown and dark grey are pitch black too), shadows under or over eyes are giving people raccoon eyes. well, seeing that, at least i know i'm not just not hip to new crazy colors. Well, I did change the 'black tone' from off to dark, but i put it back to off since that wasn't what you were talking about. what in the heck. this is wild. At this point i would think it's just this television set (hardware), but since the 26d4003 exactly as awful, i know that can't be it.

Maybe it's decided to adjust itself and it's just going through it.
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So I got the Samsung UE40D5000 yesterday, and overall I'm pretty pleased with it. PC Connectivity is perfect, no overscan, perfect 1:1 and motion blur is practically non-existent. Only qualms are light patches on the screen from the lighting, most noticeable in the corners and towards the middle when playing dark games (Dead Space 2) or watching movies with a non-16:9 aspect ratio. It also took me forever to configure the brightness and contrast and when it's in PC mode you can't change the colour saturation, I ended up abandoning the TV menu after setting the Backlight and using the nVidia control panel to set brightness/contrast/gamma/digital vibrance. Viewing angle is also fantastic with no loss of image no matter what angle you're viewing the screen from (although it does get more washed out, you can still see everything).
Overall I'm happy, but I'm open for tips on getting rid of the cloudy white patches if there are any.
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Is this thread for owners of UNxxD5300 owners too?

The picture on the UN22D5300 is outstanding using a Directv HR24 via HDMI.
Mode: Standard
Backlight: 8
Contrast: 80
Brightness: 45
Sharpness: 25

The sound on my new UN22D5300 is horrible.
I bought this tv after I returned a 19" Vizio that had sound so annoying_ I couldn't take it. There was no equalizer on the Vizio tv.

I've tried the presets and still the sound is too small and tinty.
This setting seems to give me results I can bear.
or

I even looked into the Service Menu, there is a "Sound" setting, but it doesn't look to be of help.

I have previous experience in the Service Menu area from my Samsung HL61A750.

EDIT: nothing adjustment wise works in the menu, sound is annoying on this tv too.
Any suggestions for a soundbar?
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can anybody please make a input lag test for this tv? hdtvtest.co.uk says this tv has 16ms of input lag wich seems very small amount to me, almost incredible.
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i have the ue40d5000, i have great picture quality, but i am having some major problems.

for one, i have this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkN-R...ature=youtu.be
Then i having some banding? issues. I have 3 vertical lighter colored bands on my screen with is best viewed on gray backgrounds.
and third, a am having some ghosting issues.... when i move slow or fast, my screens gets a haze when i turn around in a videogame.
and fourth, sometimes i can get a slightly grainy screen with my xbox 360 and ps3.

i have this television for 3 weeks and i called the store.
like i could have guessed, the store will send someone.... He will see nothing strange, i just know it!!!! The will take the television and bring it back after few weeks and they will have done nothing, i will call back, they will come again, and again nothing will be changed, then i will get mad and demand a new set!!!!

i know that some bleeding and clouding could occur, and i have that too. In every corner en the upper middle screen show this very clearly i a slightly dimmed room on darker images.

not the first time i had a problem:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1305730
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Okay, after a month with this TV, and after buying the Disney WOW and fiddling with the settings, and then looking at this series of TV several times in best buy compared to the other brands tv's, the color on this tv....sucks. I am so surprised to hear no one is bothered by it, but skintones look absolutely ridiculous. I kept it because i was just tired of dealing with looking for a tv to exchange it for, bought an LG, the picture noise was so bad i figured i would deal with the horrible skintones and random color interpretations for a couple of years because i really only wanted a new tv for the handful of shows i watch, one of which i mostly want for the scenery. Very surprising that so many are cool with the color, but either way, just my 2 cents, i've never seen such color issues on a tv, this thing is hideous. blech.
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