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Just wanted to say what's up guys!

I have 2 questions maybe someone can answer.

Got a 65-929 coming this week. Currently have a 52xbr4 that was calibrated by Circuit City when I got it. I'm wondering if I just input those settings if that will work, or is the 929 drastically different and I'd be better off using a calibration DVD?

Also, are all ISF calibrators able to deal with every new TV and the multitude of settings and understand how they work and how to set them? There are so many settings that I don't even know what they all do. Would I be better off trying to find a calibrator that has worked on 929's? I am close to Boston and have heard there are a few great calibrators there.

I would recommend a professional calibrator but not after breaking in the tv for at least 100 hours from what I've heard.
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Thanks editorius...I thought I read that somewhere, that it shouldn't be calibrated until after 100 hours.

Do the wifi TV firmware updates affect calibrations in any way?
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Thanks editorius...I thought I read that somewhere, that it shouldn't be calibrated until after 100 hours.

Do the wifi TV firmware updates affect calibrations in any way?

Ive had mine updated and my calibrated settings was not affected but to be safe just write down your calibrated settings or the calibrator will sometimes provide you a copy of the calibrated settings with the calibration report.
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You will lose calibrated settings only if you perform a hard reset procedure..
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edtorius,

Thanks for the calibration settings. I was able to enter them a few days ago.

The settings seem very good, and the picture colors are much better than the settings I was using.

I assume that some of the color quality improved due to the gamma setting, but I'm not sure. I was at '+2', and now I'm at '-1'. All of the 'White Balance' settings were very different from mine.

I do have a few questions for you regarding the settings:

i/p Conversion Preference - Speed (Mine is grayed out, not adjustable and set to quality.)

Auto Display Area - Full Pixel (Mine is either 'on' or 'off')

...is there some way I can access these settings?

Again, thanks for sharing!

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edtorius,

Thanks for the calibration settings. I was able to enter them a few days ago.

The settings seem very good, and the picture colors are much better than the settings I was using.

I assume that some of the color quality improved due to the gamma setting, but I'm not sure. I was at '+2', and now I'm at '-1'. All of the 'White Balance' settings were very different from mine.

I do have a few questions for you regarding the settings:

i/p Conversion Preference - Speed (Mine is grayed out, not adjustable and set to quality.)

Auto Display Area - Full Pixel (Mine is either 'on' or 'off')

...is there some way I can access these settings?

Again, thanks for sharing!

you can access the i/p conversion preference when you're in Game Scene mode.

Auto Display Area - Full Pixel will only show that option when you're actually watching HD video, try accessing that settings, while you're watching HD video, preferrably on 1080p and then you'll see that option.
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Aha!

Thanks again.

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FRESH settings v1.0

Here I present my own FRESH settings:

FRESH Cinema 1 - best for 1080p normal movies except animated ones (e.g. Shrek, Wall-E, ...)
FRESH Cinema 2 - best for all 1080p animated movies (Shrek, Wall-E, ...) but not for normal movies
FRESH Game - best for most games if you (or the game) are not "lag sensitive"


In my opinion, these 3 are great all-around settings but they just had to be separated for 3 basic types of content - normal movie, animated movie and game. Once you dial-in all 3 settings, you can easily switch between them because these settings do not use just 1 General Scene Mode

Introduction
These settings doesn't use the General Scene Mode like the rest of the settings around here, they were meant to enhance the factory Scene Modes like Cinema and Game. So if you now have calibrated your TV for General Scene Mode, you can easily use my settings to try them because they do not mess up with General Scene Mode, but with other Modes only.

To switch between animated and normal movie settings, you are just switching Picture Mode from Cinema 1 to Cinema 2 - very easy.

My environment/setup
Your mileage may very. I am situated in a medium to totally dark room. White walls. 3 meters viewing distance. 65" display. Picture quality goes to sh*t with wider viewing angles so I sit right in the sweet middle spot.

Calibration methods used

None, my eyes only. I have been tweaking these settings for around 2 weeks. I have tested these settings on 1080p movies only and PS3. I tried to be as balanced as possible with these settings so they look great on a very wide range of movies from Godfather to Wall-E, Dark Knight and Sin City. I really tried to find the perfect balance between good blacks and details in shadows. I also tried to find a perfect balance between boring dimmed picture and torch mode.

General Settings outside of Scene or Picture - same for all 3 settings below!!

Code:
Ambient Sensor - Off

Wide Mode - Full
Auto Wide - Off
Auto Display Area - Full Pixel (for 1080p/i only)

Pro Picture Setup:

Color Matrix - Default
HDMI Dynamic Range - Auto
SBM - On

Preferences:

Power Saving - Off
Presence Sensor
Sensor Mode- Off
Light Sensor - Off

Distance Alert - Off

Position Control - Off
FRESH Cinema 1 - Normal Movies


Code:
Scene Mode - Cinema

Target Inputs - Common
Picture Mode - Cinema 1

Backlight - 1 (Do not use anything lower than 1 - even in totally dark room. Also, try to use 1 and not more, your eyes will adjust after a few days.)
Picture/Contrast - 90
Brightness - 50
Color - 50
Hue - 0
Color Temperature - Warm 2
Sharpness - 60
Noise Reduction - Low
MPEG Noise Reduction - Low
Dot Noise Reduction - Auto
Reality Creation - Manual
   Resolution - Min
   Noise Filtering - Min
Smooth Gradation - Low
Motionflow - Clear Plus
CineMotion/Film Mode - Auto 1

Advanced Settings

Black Corrector - Low
Adv. Contrast Enhancer - Low
Gamma - 0
LED Dynamic Control - Standard
Auto Light Limiter - Off
Clear White - Off
Live Color - Off
White Balance
   RG: -3
   GG: -3
   BG: -5
   RB: 0
   GB: 0
   BB: 0
Detail Enhancer - High
Edge Enhancer - High
Skin Naturalizer - N/A
i/p Conversion Preference - N/A
FRESH Cinema 2 - Animated Movies

Code:
Scene Mode - Cinema

Target Inputs - Common
Picture Mode - Cinema 2

Backlight - 1 (Do not use anything lower than 1 - even in totally dark room. Also, try to use 1 and not more, your eyes will adjust after a few days.)
Picture/Contrast - 90
Brightness - 50
Color - 50
Hue - 0
Color Temperature - Warm 2
Sharpness - 80
Noise Reduction - Off
MPEG Noise Reduction - Off
Dot Noise Reduction - Off
Reality Creation - Manual
   Resolution - 10
   Noise Filtering - Min
Smooth Gradation - Off
Motionflow - Clear Plus
CineMotion/Film Mode - Auto 1

Advanced Settings

Black Corrector - Off
Adv. Contrast Enhancer - Low
Gamma - 0
LED Dynamic Control - Standard
Auto Light Limiter - Medium
Clear White - Off
Live Color - Medium
White Balance
   RG: -3
   GG: -3
   BG: -5
   RB: 0
   GB: 0
   BB: 0
Detail Enhancer - Medium
Edge Enhancer - Low
Skin Naturalizer - N/A
i/p Conversion Preference - N/A
FRESH Game

Code:
Scene Mode - Game

Target Inputs - Common
Picture Mode - Game-Standard

Backlight - 1 (Do not use anything lower than 1 - even in totally dark room. Also, try to use 1 and not more, your eyes will adjust after a few days.)
Picture/Contrast - 90
Brightness - 50
Color - 50
Hue - 0
Color Temperature - Warm 2
Sharpness - 50
Noise Reduction - N/A
MPEG Noise Reduction - N/A
Dot Noise Reduction - N/A
Reality Creation - N/A
   Resolution - N/A
   Noise Filtering - N/A
Smooth Gradation - N/A
Motionflow - N/A
CineMotion/Film Mode - N/A

Advanced Settings

Black Corrector - Low
Adv. Contrast Enhancer - Low
Gamma - 0
LED Dynamic Control - Standard
Auto Light Limiter - Off
Clear White - Off
Live Color - Off
White Balance
   RG: -3
   GG: -3
   BG: -5
   RB: 0
   GB: 0
   BB: 0
Detail Enhancer - Medium
Edge Enhancer - Low
Skin Naturalizer - N/A
i/p Conversion Preference - Quality
Please let me know how do you like my so-called fresh settings if you do try them. I am really interested to see if there will be more people like me. Let me know here or on the official HX929 thread or just send me PM. Thanks and I hope you will enjoy them!

P.S: This TV is so good that messing with brightness or gamma is in my opinion absolutely crazy. I tried some of the settings posted here and didn't like any of them, including the most favorite settings by rizzo (ambient sensor ON?) - sorry mate
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@granddavis

Tried your settings but it seems off on mine, I don't know if it's because I have a 55' and yours 65'. I do use the default Game Scene mode except I change the WB settings per my calibrated settings.

Have you tried the Animation scene mode? I use it for animated videos and also I use the default settings except I change the WB settings again per my calibrated settings.

I tried turning on the extra features for the non-animated and non-game videos, Noise Reductions, Motionflows, Enhancers and etc... but to me it makes my videos look fake, adding stuff to the videos not intended per the original content of the videos, it looks good but for me it's kind of Vivid settings, it looks unnatural.

Have you tried running disc calibration on your settings? Just like you, I tried all settings before but still feels like something's missing and when I got mine pro-calibrated, that's when I found what's missing and has been happy ever since and so I still hope you would consider getting yours pro-calibrated especially for the 65' but as long as you're happy with your settings, calibrated or not, then by any means enjoy!
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I have recently purchased LG LW9800 and it is a complete failure and now I have the 46hx925 (or 929). Everything is great but when I play FIFA 12 the picture is not so great. I have no clue about calibration settings. May anyone please help me to maximize my gaming experience.


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Thanks UnixGuru.

Edit: The setting is for 55HX929.

I thought I'll share the picture settings that I'm currently using. I'm not Pro or did a professional calibration. I just tweaked the settings found on this forum and other places on Internet and find these settings more natural and the PQ looks quite good too.

Scene Cinema 1

Picture Adjustments

Setting Memory Current Input
Picture Mode Cinema1
Backlight 1
Picture 70
Brightness 53
Color 46
Hue G1(or 0 personal preference)
Color Temp Warm2
Sharpness 34
Noise Red. Off
MPEG Noise Red. Off
Dot Noise Red. Off
Reality Creation Manual
Resolution Min
Noise Filtering Min
Smooth Gradation Off
Motionflow Off
Cinemotion Auto 2 (Auto 1 on some sources doesn't play well. Your mileage may vary)

Advanced Settings

Black Corrector Off
Adv. Contrast Enha. Off
Gamma +2
LED Dyanmic Control Standard
Auto Light Limiter Off
Clear White Off
Live Color Off

White Balance
R-Gain -5
G-Gain -1
B-Gain -6
R-Bias 0
G-Bias 0
B-Bias 0

Detail Enhancer Off
Edge Enhancer Off

3D Settings
Auto 3D On
3D Signal Notififi. On

Ambient Sensor Off

Pro Picture Setup
Color Matrix Auto
HDMI Dynamic Range Auto
SBM On

Screen

Setting Memory Current Input
Wide Mode Full
Auto Wide Off
4:3 Default Greyed out
Auto Display Area Off
Display Area Full Pixel
Screen Position Greyed Out
Vertical Size Greyed Out

Let me know how it works out to you guys.

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I have recently purchased LG LW9800 and it is a complete failure and now I have the 46hx925 (or 929). Everything is great but when I play FIFA 12 the picture is not so great. I have no clue about calibration settings. May anyone please help me to maximize my gaming experience.

Thank you

Have you tried playing in Game Scene mode?
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I have recently purchased LG LW9800 and it is a complete failure and now I have the 46hx925 (or 929). Everything is great but when I play FIFA 12 the picture is not so great. I have no clue about calibration settings. May anyone please help me to maximize my gaming experience.

Thank you
Have you tried playing in Game Scene mode?

Yes I did..
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I have recently purchased LG LW9800 and it is a complete failure and now I have the 46hx925 (or 929). Everything is great but when I play FIFA 12 the picture is not so great. I have no clue about calibration settings. May anyone please help me to maximize my gaming experience.

Thank you
Have you tried playing in Game Scene mode?

Yes I did..

Are you playing xbox or PS3? Do you connect it directly to the TV via HDMI? or via a receiver? What is it exactly wrong with the picture that is not great when you are playing on Game Scene mode? Can you elaborate?
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Are you playing xbox or PS3? Do you connect it directly to the TV via HDMI? or via a receiver? What is it exactly wrong with the picture that is not great when you are playing on Game Scene mode? Can you elaborate?


I am playing ps3 and I am using a monster hdmi cable and connecting it directly to the tv. When game scene is On, there are slight black vertical lines at the back ;/
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I am playing ps3 and I am using a monster hdmi cable and connecting it directly to the tv. When game scene is On, there are slight black vertical lines at the back ;/

I hope that's not a stuck pixels. When game scene off, how does it look?
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I hope that's not a stuck pixels. When game scene off, how does it look?

even worse, it gets more blurry and its a bit unclear. I am disappointed honestly.
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even worse, it gets more blurry and its a bit unclear. I am disappointed honestly.

How about your PS3 settings? Did you set it up correctly? How about on blurays? Do you have the same problem? And you're not playing on 3D right? Not sure if that game is on 3D also. If you still having problem then I think it's time to call Sony, I don't think the settings is the problem.
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How about your PS3 settings? Did you set it up correctly? How about on blurays? Do you have the same problem? And you're not playing on 3D right? Not sure if that game is on 3D also. If you still having problem then I think it's time to call Sony, I don't think the settings is the problem.

What are the settings that should be done on my ps3? the blu ray and 3d experience is perfect.. and also other games are great.. but fifa12 is the only problem i have with this TV.
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this is my current and best setting i have tried. Shadow details and picture clarity never been better


Backlight 1
Picture Max
Brightness 55
Color 50
Hue 0
Color Temp Warm2
Sharpness 50
Noise Red. Off
MPEG Noise Red. Off
Dot Noise Red. Off
Reality Creation Manual
Resolution Min
Noise Filtering Min
Smooth Gradation Min
Motionflow Off
Cinemotion Auto 1

Advanced Settings

Black Corrector Off
Adv. Contrast Enha. Off
Gamma 0
LED Dyanmic Control Standard
Auto Light Limiter Off
Clear White Off
Live Color Off

White Balance
R-Gain -5
G-Gain -0
B-Gain -5
R-Bias -1
G-Bias -1
B-Bias -1
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Hey guy!

Let me preface all this quickly by saying, I'm a complete noob when it comes to changing my settings.

I've had my 55HX929 for around a year now, and I've been trying the CNET setting lately.
I have to say, they do look a little dark to me. I know I'm probably just used to how bright the factory setting are, so I decided to watch something I know really well (Drive), and it still seemed a little off to me.
I just remember it being a little brighter, even in the theater.
I also use my PS3 pretty frequently, and I'm not always thrilled with the changes while I'm playing, either.
My fiance' and I usually have a little ambient lighting on, and my place is bright during the day.
Having said all that, can anyone, and I know this is a pain in the ass, walk me through a setting/settings that might alleviate those problems?

I have the PS3 and a Blu-ray player, as well as the TV all through a bravia receiver.

Thanks for your time, everyone, and I appreciate it in advance.
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Hey guy!

Let me preface all this quickly by saying, I'm a complete noob when it comes to changing my settings.

I've had my 55HX929 for around a year now, and I've been trying the CNET setting lately.
I have to say, they do look a little dark to me. I know I'm probably just used to how bright the factory setting are, so I decided to watch something I know really well (Drive), and it still seemed a little off to me.
I just remember it being a little brighter, even in the theater.
I also use my PS3 pretty frequently, and I'm not always thrilled with the changes while I'm playing, either.
My fiance' and I usually have a little ambient lighting on, and my place is bright during the day.
Having said all that, can anyone, and I know this is a pain in the ass, walk me through a setting/settings that might alleviate those problems?

I have the PS3 and a Blu-ray player, as well as the TV all through a bravia receiver.

Thanks for your time, everyone, and I appreciate it in advance.

Have you already tried the settings that others has shared here? I know you've had it for a year now but I would recommend getting your TV professionally calibrated still.
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Have you already tried the settings that others has shared here? I know you've had it for a year now but I would recommend getting your TV professionally calibrated still.

How do you calibrate the TV professionally? By equipment or someone should come in and calibrate it? if by use of equipment, which one do you recommend. Thanks
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I'll post my settings if you guys want. I'll promise you they'll be the best you've ever seen. I have severe OCD when it comes to certain things and my HX-929 settings are perfect. Send me a PM if you're interested.

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I'll post my settings if you guys want. I'll promise you they'll be the best you've ever seen. I have severe OCD when it comes to certain things and my HX-929 settings are perfect. Send me a PM if you're interested.

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Why go the PM route? I say just post them. Of course not everyone will agree that they are perfect. That is life on the internet.

If you are not comfortable posting them, I would like you to PM them to me so I can compare them to mine. Thanks.
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Why go the PM route? I say just post them. Of course not everyone will agree that they are perfect. That is life on the internet.

If you are not comfortable posting them, I would like you to PM them to me so I can compare them to mine. Thanks.

Makes them seem secret, more important. Hahaha. I'll get em up after work tonight.
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Have any of the calibrations dialed back some of the blue over modulation you might see in dark scenes or dark content on films like Sin City?

I know some of the over modulation of color is inherent in the design of the film, but the 929 does seem to exaggerate some colors, of which blue is the most common on my panel.

The over modulation has always seemed like some level of auto contrast, or gamma expansion which can not be fully disabled.

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How do you calibrate the TV professionally? By equipment or someone should come in and calibrate it? if by use of equipment, which one do you recommend. Thanks

Someone calibrated mine and done by a local in my area at San Diego, CA. I suggest you check out the calibration forum somewhere here if you're interested.
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I own a 46HX729 I recently purchased. I've used all of the settings from the HX729 owners thread and am not fully satisfied. There are a lot more options in this thread. Do you all think that the settings in this thread are worth a shot? Or would they be unfit for my tv? I know it may seem like a stupid question, just wondered what the general consensus was. Thanks!
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Seriously, paying somebody a couple hundred dollars to calibrate your tv is ridiculous. Buy a damn calibration disc and calibrate it yourself. That way you know it's fully calibrated to your tastes by you. Just because a "professional" says its calibrated doesn't mean it's just the way you like it. Get out there and calibrate, you'll thank me for it later, and thank yourself as well.
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