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I've been searching around and I can't really find a good answer to this, but how does the 8000 and the 7000 differ? I know that the contrast ration is different and there is something called Micro Dimming plus on the 8000, but that doesn't really tell me how they differ in the real world.

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Incredible Contrast with Micro Dimming Plus

See the difference with Micro Dimming Plus Technology Micro Dimming Plus is a feature that is unique to the Samsung LED 8000. TVs typically treat their light source as a single light even though there may be many bulbs making up that light. While most TVs can vary the brightness, they expose the whole scene to the same light.

As a result, a bright object in a dark scene (a candle in a dark room) is dimmed to make the room dark, or a dark object in a bright scene (an action hero silhouetted against an explosion) is grayer than it should be to make the scene bright. With the advent of LED TVs, this was no longer a limitation of TV. LED light sources can be placed behind the panel and used to light only a specific region. With many of these LEDs behind the panel, bright areas get the light they need and dark areas stay dark. This is a process commonly called Local Dimming. However, Local Dimming poses other problems: the TV must be thicker and more LEDs are needed making the set more expensive and less energy efficient.

Samsung has found a way to create the contrast improvements offered by Local Dimming without sacrificing the TVs depth, design, energy efficiency or price. This innovative technology is called Micro Dimming. It uses software to analyze the picture, break it up into many squares, and adjust the panel to account for darker and brighter areas. On the LED 8000, this is taken even further with Micro Dimming Plus.

In addition to the Micro Dimming software, the LED 8000's Micro Dimming Plus features built-in hardware that allows for each of the LEDs lights to be automatically adjusted independently. If you are looking for elite picture quality in an ultra slim TV, Micro Dimming Plus in the LED 8000 ensures that the image is as close as possible to what the camera saw when the video or film was made.


And the bezels are also different and the contrast is different as well
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To put it simple the d8000 has better blacks due to local dimming of leds. The d7000 has micro dimming which is samsungs advanced dynamic contrast software but it doesn't have local dimming of its leds.
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Some pictures of the difference form d7000 to d8000
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1328489
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Wow! You guys helped out a lot. For a while I was set on the 8000 and then I saw the 7000 today in person for a while and thought I might just save money and get that, but looking at this info and these shots I might have to get the 8000 after all.

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Wow! You guys helped out a lot. For a while I was set on the 8000 and then I saw the 7000 today in person for a while and thought I might just save money and get that, but looking at this info and these shots I might have to get the 8000 after all.

Heh, I think this thread has convinced me NOT to get the 8000. Yeah, it's a noticable difference, but it's not very often that I'm watching scenes that are very dark AND there are no lights in the room. I think for ~$500 difference I can deal.

Threads like this are what make this place invaluable at times.
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Heh, I think this thread has convinced me NOT to get the 8000. Yeah, it's a noticable difference, but it's not very often that I'm watching scenes that are very dark AND there are no lights in the room. I think for ~$500 difference I can deal.

Threads like this are what make this place invaluable at times.

Most people don't have to have what's considered the best of the best. I'm sure the d7000 is a great TV, can't fault anyone for picking it over the d8000 as long as you know what you're getting. For me price was never a concern, if it was $500 difference would make me look at the d7000. In my opinion the extra cost is worth it as you get 4 3d glasses plus better picture quality. We all watch TV in different environments so we should get the tv that best suits our needs and budget.
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I wound up buying the 8000 which was only about $200 more if that at almost every place I looked. Got a great deal I was happy with :-)

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Not to mention, my d7000 had noticeable gridding, that I believe was related to its "micro dimming" since it breaks it up into various chunks...since the 8000 goes to the led level instead of larger chunks, I'm thinking it will give a more consistent image.
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Specifications comparison Samsung UN55D7000 vs Samsung UN55D8000, http://tv-compare.blogspot.com/2011/07/samsung-un55d7000-vs-samsung-un55d8000.html
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Not to mention, my d7000 had noticeable gridding, that I believe was related to its "micro dimming" since it breaks it up into various chunks...since the 8000 goes to the led level instead of larger chunks, I'm thinking it will give a more consistent image.

Have yet to see any gridding on my D7000.... had it since Feburary.

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http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1328489

lmao at that thread..... those are the worst comparsion pics ever. If your going to compare the two, try searching for pics at bit better. Instead of finding the worst to go against "your best"

and BTW, i read both the D7000 and d8000 thread since the beginning, and bot sets suffer clouding and flashlighting, and mostly due to human error in settings. Properly setup, the only flashlighting and clouding you get "on both sets" is when you start the TV.

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lmao at that thread..... those are the worst comparsion pics ever. If your going to compare the two, try searching for pics at bit better. Instead of finding the worst to go against "your best"


I will agree that those pictures aren't the best comparison shots, not in the same environment, didn't have the same content on the screens or shot with the same camera. To my defense the picture of the d8000 was my own shot in complete darkness, those other d7000 pictures were not in complete darkness and still didn't look anywhere near black. In all fairness there is a night and day difference in the d8000 compared to the d7000 in a dark room. The fact the the d8000 has the ability to turn off its leds individually (edge local dimming ) means its going to have better black levels over the d7000. The d7000 doesn't have the local dimming so the leds are all on or all off, any content on the screen and they are all on. It may as well be a ccfl TV with leds, don't let micro dimming fool you, its just samsungs advance dynamic contrast software.
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I will agree that those pictures aren't the best comparison shots, not in the same environment, didn't have the same content on the screens or shot with the same camera. To my defense the picture of the d8000 was my own shot in complete darkness, those other d7000 pictures were not in complete darkness and still didn't look anywhere near black. In all fairness there is a night and day difference in the d8000 compared to the d7000 in a dark room. The fact the the d8000 has the ability to turn off its leds individually (edge local dimming ) means its going to have better black levels over the d7000. The d7000 doesn't have the local dimming so the leds are all on or all off, any content on the screen and they are all on. It may as well be a ccfl TV with leds, don't let micro dimming fool you, its just samsungs advance dynamic contrast software.


Umm. you have no idea of the settings in that D7000 that is listed. I can understand the need to support one's own TV. but still comparing to a image of unknown setting is just meaningless.

These are the kind of threads and half baked statements that add to confusion to potential buyers.
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I purchased a Samsung 7000 60in. 3D in March of 2012. As of two weeks later, I am completely satisfied. There is a good sharp picture, good lighting and I believe the voice quality is better than the previous Samsung that I had owned. I was originally undecided about getting the 3D, but now I am glad that ISamsung UN55D7000 60-Inch 1080p 240 Hz 3D LED HDTV, Silver did. On my home TV the 3D quality is much better than what I had seen in the stores.
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I don't have either so can not comment if the black level is that much better on the 8000, as indicated by those pictures. I do think the d7000 is much better looking set. In person its one of the sleekest looking sets ever, with that bezel. The d8000 looks cheap compared too it with the picture off, imo.
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