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My backlight is set to 40, but my contrast is exceptionally high at 97.
These settings were just based on the Avia and WOW disks and the use of filters - no professional tools/calibration so I make no claims or warranties

Backlight: 40
Contrast: 97
Brightness: 54
H Sharpness: 50
V Sharpness: 50
Colour: 53
Tint: G2
True Motion: Off
Local Dimming: medium

I haven't played much with the below settings yet...

Dynamic Contrast: off
Noise Reduction: off
Mpeg NR: off
Super Res: off
Black level: low
Real Cinema: on
Colour Gamut: Standard
Edge Enhancer: high
Colour FilteR: Off
Colour Temp: warm
Gamma: 2.2
Method: 2 points
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Well I did some testing...I cannot see the black lines arkasi is referring to in the first link u posted...still haven't sourced any passive/active glasses locally to try it with.

That's exactly my point and the basis of my assuredness that the panel is not passive. The passive FPR panels show those lines as that is how the passive technology works, it uses polarisation to "separate" the lines for each eye.
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Might as well post my calibrated settings too, with the caveat that different panels will have different characteristics so these settings might not look good for others. I calibrated using an Eye-One Display 2 and Color HCFR.

[Basic settings]

Mode: ISF Expert
Backlight: 30 (dark room)
Contrast: 90
Brightness: 50
H and V Sharpness: 50
Colour: 50
Tint: 0

TruMotion: Off
Local Dimming: Low

[Expert settings]

Dynamic contrast: Off
All noise reduction: Off
Super Resolution: Off
Real Cinema: On
Edge enhancer: Off

Black level: Low
Gamut: BT709

R-Contrast: 20
G-Contrast: 0
B-Contrast: 33
R-Brightness: 16
G-Brightness: 0
B-Brightness: 2

I've also made changes to the 10 pt IRE settings, but the necessary adjustments will certainly differ between panels so there's no point posting them. Same is true of changes to the CMS (and I'm also not sure my sensor/Color HCFR are properly reporting the colour data).

Just a note for anyone using a cheaper sensor like the Display 2 to calibrate -- I found I had to let the TV warm up for around an hour and also allow the Display 2 to warm up on the screen (or at least in a warmish room) before I could get stable readings. I found that on the greyscale, blue levels would rise and red levels would fall fairly steadily for at least an hour as the TV warmed up.
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You may want to check the cut off point for the Local Dimming. Previous LGs, that was 52. After that Local Dimming stays on all the time and you start to get Milky Blacks the higher you go above 52.
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You may want to check the cut off point for the Local Dimming. Previous LGs, that was 52. After that Local Dimming stays on all the time and you start to get Milky Blacks the higher you go above 52.

Yes -- as I think I posted earlier, black levels start to rise (at least on my set) as soon as you go above 50 brightness.
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I've been lurking this forum after googling this TV. I appreciate everyone's insight. Got mine and set it up last night. Overall, I'm very pleased with the TV.
The only 2 problems were:
1- the automatic bright levels were too low when all lights in the room were turned off (that was a pretty simple fix)
2- football was horrible as has already been described

Help! how do I turn off the trumotion?
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Mine came a day early! She's all setup and I'm tweaking with DVE (basics) and the settings listed here, honestly out of the box it looks great!; my settings are within 2-3 of fullerdk's give or take (though I'm not sure about the expert settings as I cannot test them against anything.

I've always had issues with the backlight setting and how it factors into Brightness and Contrast.

There is glare
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Hi I'm new to this thread, I was reading all of the post on this tv , which I have not rec yet, I hope I order a great set and hope I can activate the 3d if it available, Im not tech savy hope I can keep up
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I appreciate everyones' help. I'll be back at it tonight. I'll tell you what, does anyone remember the LG Shine phone? The front of this tv looks like it. I did not know it would look like a mirror. All the photos make it look like a black sheet of glass.

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Is this an uniformity issue I should be concerned about - its only along the top edge of the screen (its hard to get a shot of it, can't use a flash and my camera was having trouble focusing in the dark)? Noticed it about a week ago. Its only visible on the startup screen - more noticeable if the TV has been off a long time. Its hard to see with light in the room and its impossible to see on test patterns. It almost looks like what happens when you press hard on a LCD while its on.

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Mine has that too. As you say, it's only visible on the startup screen where local dimming is forced off and in other cases where you turn local dimming off. Since I don't plan to use the TV without local dimming, I wasn't too worried about it. Having said that, it is a obviously a flaw and it's unfortunate that issues like that are present with what's meant to be LG's flagship panel.
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Mine has that too. As you say, it's only visible on the startup screen where local dimming is forced off and in other cases where you turn local dimming off. Since I don't plan to use the TV without local dimming, I wasn't too worried about it. Having said that, it is a obviously a flaw and it's unfortunate that issues like that are present with what's meant to be LG's flagship panel.
My set has it as well, I freaked out at first when I first saw it but have yet to see it during normal watching/black scenes.

I will say, after a few hours of watching, this set is, compared to my old Sammy LED HLT, much better! 'texture' to materials...I can't put my finger on it yet but I had noticed this on current gen sets compared to my 5 year old set, more depth...even uncalibrated it's better (new tech) compared to the old set. Very pleased and can't wait to get it calibrated!

I forgot to add: UA.AUSWLHR made in August
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My set has it as well, I freaked out at first when I first saw it but have yet to see it during normal watching/black scenes.

I will say, after a few hours of watching, this set is, compared to my old Sammy LED HLT, much better! 'texture' to materials...I can't put my finger on it yet but I had noticed this on current gen sets compared to my 5 year old set, more depth...even uncalibrated it's better (new tech) compared to the old set. Very pleased and can't wait to get it calibrated!
I freaked too, I have it in the lower left hand corner and in the top middle of my screen. Full black I can see it, but I can't with 2:35 viewing.

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Is this an uniformity issue I should be concerned about - its only along the top edge of the screen (its hard to get a shot of it, can't use a flash and my camera was having trouble focusing in the dark)? Noticed it about a week ago. Its only visible on the startup screen - more noticeable if the TV has been off a long time. Its hard to see with light in the room and its impossible to see on test patterns. It almost looks like what happens when you press hard on a LCD while its on.

this is also common when one of the screws in the back is to tight. may want to at least back off the torque a little bit and see if this corrects it.

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this is also common when one of the screws in the back is to tight. may want to at least back off the torque a little bit and see if this corrects it.
No effect. I think the top screws (which weren't too tight) only hold on the bezel. The screws that might be too tight are probably inside the case.
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Just picked up a UA.AUSWLHR. Haven't opened it yet so I don't know the date.
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Just picked up a UA.AUSWLHR. Haven't opened it yet so I don't know the date.

Awww..too bad u didn't get a y....the w's don't seem to have the correct hardware for a shot at getting 3d to work...still a fantastic deal for this caliber of tv though
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So as other's have mentioned LG pulled a fast one on HSN, promoting the specific model and selling different models, not cool.
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LG 55LHX - BLACK Panel. almost the same Black as the Bezel, except Bezel a Shiny Black - Bars and Bezel cannot be seen in night viewing!
LG 55LH90 - Very Dark Grey - but you can see the difference in the Black Levels from the 55LHX
LG 55LV9500 - W series - Very Dark Grey - Black Levels almost the same as the 55LH90, but not up to the 55LHX BLACK Standard!
LG 55LV9500 - Y series - ? - Are the panels Dark Grey as well, or as Black as the Bezel? Is there an actual difference between the W and Y Panels?
Appears, to get the price down, a Dark Grey Panel was used instead of a Black - check out a 55LW6500 at a local retailer - Panels are Black!
Anyone with a Y, please let us know whether the Panel is actually Black, or Dark Grey.
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LG 55LHX - BLACK Panel. almost the same Black as the Bezel, except Bezel a Shiny Black - Bars and Bezel cannot be seen in night viewing!
LG 55LH90 - Very Dark Grey - but you can see the difference in the Black Levels from the 55LHX
LG 55LV9500 - W series - Very Dark Grey - Black Levels almost the same as the 55LH90, but not up to the 55LHX BLACK Standard!
LG 55LV9500 - Y series - ? - Are the panels Dark Grey as well, or as Black as the Bezel? Is there an actual difference between the W and Y Panels?
Appears, to get the price down, a Dark Grey Panel was used instead of a Black - check out a 55LW6500 at a local retailer - Panels are Black!
Anyone with a Y, please let us know whether the Panel is actually Black, or Dark Grey.

My y panel is about as black as black can be and very close to the bezel color
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Awww..too bad u didn't get a y....the w's don't seem to have the correct hardware for a shot at getting 3d to work...still a fantastic deal for this caliber of tv though

Perhaps you haven't been paying attention. All, I repeat all LV9500s and LW9500s have the hardware to support Active 3D (and only Active 3D).
However this capability has been intentionally disabled by LG.

W sets have 2010 V5 panels and V5 main boards.
Y sets have 2011 V6 panels and V6 main boards.

The V6 panels may have an improved response time over the V5s.
The V5 panels may also have some advantages over the V6s

W LCM - LC550MUT-SCA1 (LG Display p/n)
Y LCM - LC550DUT-SDA1 (LG Display p/n)

The above V5 panel has previously been employed in the 55LX9500-UA fitted with an IOP backlight.
The identical V5 panel can be found in the 55LW9500-TA fitted with an ALEF backlight.

All LV9500 and LW9500 variants should outperform the LX9500 (in 2D), which was rated the top 2010 set at the shootout.

Refer to the reference material below -

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All three shipping 55LV9500 variants to date are 3D capable. See my part number analysis,

Some useful references in the following Service Manuals-

http://aic.lgservice.com/DATA/SVM/KR...0192911-b1.pdf
http://www.lg.com/lgecs.downloadFile....pdf&TC=DwnCmd

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All, I repeat all LV9500s and LW9500s have the hardware to support Active 3D (and only Active 3D).
However this capability has been intentionally disabled by LG.

Nony, is it your opinion that LG has disabled 3D via software or a hardware mod? I cant imagin hardware as once FCC approved, thats how it has to go out... correct me if im wrong of-course.
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Is this an uniformity issue I should be concerned about - its only along the top edge of the screen (its hard to get a shot of it, can't use a flash and my camera was having trouble focusing in the dark)? Noticed it about a week ago. Its only visible on the startup screen - more noticeable if the TV has been off a long time. Its hard to see with light in the room and its impossible to see on test patterns. It almost looks like what happens when you press hard on a LCD while its on.


Is this the Y or W set having this problem?
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Perhaps you haven't been paying attention. All, I repeat all LV9500s and LW9500s have the hardware to support Active 3D (and only Active 3D).
However this capability has been intentionally disabled by LG.

W sets have 2010 V5 panels and V5 main boards.
Y sets have 2011 V6 panels and V6 main boards.

The V6 panels may have an improved response time over the V5s.
The V5 panels may also have some advantages over the V6s

W LCM - LC550MUT-SCA1 (LG Display p/n)
Y LCM - LC550DUT-SDA1 (LG Display p/n)

The above V5 panel has previously been employed in the 55LX9500-UA fitted with an IOP backlight.
The identical V5 panel can be found in the 55LW9500-TA fitted with an ALEF backlight.

All LV9500 and LW9500 variants should outperform the LX9500 (in 2D), which was rated the top 2010 set at the shootout.

Refer to the reference material below -
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LG AKB72914042 Remote that Comes with the 55LV9500
LG AKB73295502 Wand that comes with the 55LV9500, 55LW9500
LG AKB72914043 Remote that Comes with the 55LW9500 - now SOLD OUT - more arriving later

Middle Button for the 55LV9500 is a Ratio Button
Middle Button for the 55LW9500 is a 3D Button

Remote for my 55LW9500 is AKB73275618 and has no 3D button, but has the ratio button

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Curious what everything one thinks as a general consensus? Is this TV worth the 1500 that the majority of people picked it up for? From the overall posts it seems the majority of people are happy with it but there is an issue or here two but it seems other higher end tvs can experience that as well.

I am no where near a TV expert but so far I been happy with it but I also do not have an TV to compare it with. My other TV is a 32 lcd sammy which I bought years and years ago. On paper it looked great for the price 55" local dim 480Hz built in wifi for 1500 shipped. I do notice some minor light leakage across the TV but I have only noticed when the TV is not playing anything (except I have noticed when streaming netflix) but I have not seen it any where else for example black scenes when streaming from my NAS.
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Nony, is it your opinion that LG has disabled 3D via software or a hardware mod? I cant imagin hardware as once FCC approved, thats how it has to go out... correct me if im wrong of-course.

In general, disabling an exising feature from the UI, doesn't trigger a new regulatory certification requirement. However, as pointed out above, the FCC ID for the 55LV9500 is BEJ55LW9500UA, and this is potentially problematic. (And not to be confused with our 55LV9500-UA.AUSYLHR / 55LV9500-UA.AUSWLHR / 55LV9500-UA.AUSYLJR differentiation.)

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Who needs the Active Headaches?

Agreed. It's not clear whay you ordered two units, since you are very happy with your 55LHXs.

But you have to admit that I nailed down the LCM info.


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Earlier in the thread, VoidbioV took a pic of the set in a darkened room (of the Seahawks pre-season game); I asked about glare, and whether he or anyone with the set could take some bright room pics of it. He posted that he looked at the set during the day with 3 open windows & an open front door, and there was "no glare," also indicating that he'd follow up with a pic. That hasn't happened yet (people DO get busy living life away from their AV gear, I know!), and since then Nony in this thread posted the FCC docs for the LW9800. That model looks virtually identical to the LV - and also appears to double as a mirror in the confines of the FCC testing cave.

Does anyone have any bright room pics that reveals whatever AR coating LG has used & its real world effectiveness?

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