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I just got the 46" model. I have been waiting for this set to come out ever since I have heard about it. I can not find any reviews on it at all and am curious as to why Toshiba does not have this listed on their site anymore. Cevo Engine, fine local dimming, 480Hz, and 3D. Hopefully there will be no minor issues with this set. I will give some updates. Prolly wont hook up till tomorrow. Oh yeah, 1199 if you were wondering. I will be tweaking picture for a long time.
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I am very excited to see an owner. I'm looking into buying this set, the 65" probably. Like you i have been trying to find reviews and feedback on this set. I start putting some questions up. I hope you dont mind

Do you have any solid proof wheter this is full-array vs edge-lit?
How is the screen? Matte? Glossy? Single sheet of glass?
Please provide your review of picture quality.

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That's a good deal. I see it listed for 1,999 @ a few sites online. Where did you buy the tv? You can see the specs at Crutchfield now. States clearly that it is back lit and not edge lit. Weird that it isn't on Toshiba's web site. Interestingly this set was on the Crutchfield site about a month ago and then it just up and disappeared. I inquired & the rep told me that they did not know what happened.
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I am very excited to see an owner. I'm looking into buying this set, the 65" probably. Like you i have been trying to find reviews and feedback on this set. I start putting some questions up. I hope you dont mind

Do you have any solid proof wheter this is full-array vs edge-lit?
How is the screen? Matte? Glossy? Single sheet of glass?
Please provide your review of picture quality.

Thanks

Ha! I am very glad to see that you have the same TV that this one is replacing. I have the Toshiba 46SV670U and absolutely love it. It will be missed dearly. I am selling it for $500. To answer your questions, the screen is glossy. Single sheet of glass, I really dont know. I BELIEVE it is full array but could be wrong. I do know it has 32 local dimming panels. I got this one to hold me over till the ZL series comes out which has 512 local dimming panels. I had a very hard decision to make which was between the 55" or 46". It is going in my bedroom. The 55" was $1599 and 46" was $1199. There is still a possibility that I may take back and get the 55". But I will set it up today and of course I took off work tomorrow so I can have a litle time alone with this set. The border around the edge of the screen is pretty thin so it looks much smaller than the 46SV670U. But I guess you can say that it is pretty much all screen. First thing I gotta do is hook my HTPC up to it and watch some 1080P media using the madvr renderer and see what the 480hz is all about. Plus convert 2D to 3D games. The 3D glasses are active and not passive. I will try using the say settings I use with the 46SV670U to see if the picture is the same. The hardest part will be to get the ColorMaster settings right. I will update you guys. I hate that I gotta be the the lab rat and could not find any reviews.
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That's a good deal. I see it listed for 1,999 @ a few sites online. Where did you buy the tv? You can see the specs at Crutchfield now. States clearly that it is back lit and not edge lit. Weird that it isn't on Toshiba's web site. Interestingly this set was on the Crutchfield site about a month ago and then it just up and disappeared. I inquired & the rep told me that they did not know what happened.

Got it from conns. I think that people were reporting problems with the set, that is why it is no longer on Toshiba's site. But I have no solid proof. The main complaint about the 515 series was that it took 20 seconds to turn on. I will let you guy know If I have any beef with it. 65" was $2999.
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Ha! I am very glad to see that you have the same TV that this one is replacing. I have the Toshiba 46SV670U and absolutely love it. It will be missed dearly. I am selling it for $500. To answer your questions, the screen is glossy. Single sheet of glass, I really dont know. I BELIEVE it is full array but could be wrong. I do know it has 32 local dimming panels. I got this one to hold me over till the ZL series comes out which has 512 local dimming panels. I had a very hard decision to make which was between the 55" or 46". It is going in my bedroom. The 55" was $1599 and 46" was $1199. There is still a possibility that I may take back and get the 55". But I will set it up today and of course I took off work tomorrow so I can have a litle time alone with this set. The border around the edge of the screen is pretty thin so it looks much smaller than the 46SV670U. But I guess you can say that it is pretty much all screen. First thing I gotta do is hook my HTPC up to it and watch some 1080P media using the madvr renderer and see what the 480hz is all about. Plus convert 2D to 3D games. The 3D glasses are active and not passive. I will try using the say settings I use with the 46SV670U to see if the picture is the same. The hardest part will be to get the ColorMaster settings right. I will update you guys. I hate that I gotta be the the lab rat and could not find any reviews.

Congrats. Are you sure this set has 32 dimming zones? That sounds low.
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32 local dimming panels or zones sounds like something between edge lit and full array. How did you determine it had 32 local dimming panels?

Also, I am a 670U owner as well and would be interested in your opinion on how the picture quality compares between the two sets.
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32 local dimming panels or zones sounds like something between edge lit and full array. How did you determine it had 32 local dimming panels?

Also, I am a 670U owner as well and would be interested in your opinion on how the picture quality compares between the two sets.

Well I am really unsure of how many local dimming zones there are. The salesman said 32 which does sound low for 'fine local dimming', but he could have been wrong. I will have to check the manual to see if it has an actual count.
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Well I am really unsure of how many local dimming zones there are. The salesman said 32 which does sound low for 'fine local dimming', but he could have been wrong. I will have to check the manual to see if it has an actual count.

Manual probably won't say. Your probably gonna have to connect a laptop to the display with a mouse. Pull up a BLACK Screen & slowly run the mouse across the top & sides of the display to get a somewhat of an accurate zone count
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The official Spec sheet can be seen on Amazon's listing. It is located in the picture box and you can magnify it. It says it has an increased number of zones and more than average.

http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-65UL61...6537530&sr=8-1
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The official Spec sheet can be seen on Amazon's listing. It is located in the picture box and you can magnify it. It says it has an increased number of zones and more than average.

I suppose my question is increased compared to what?
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Ha! I am very glad to see that you have the same TV that this one is replacing. I have the Toshiba 46SV670U and absolutely love it. It will be missed dearly.

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Well I am really unsure of how many local dimming zones there are. The salesman said 32 which does sound low for 'fine local dimming', but he could have been wrong. I will have to check the manual to see if it has an actual count.

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Manual probably won't say. Your probably gonna have to connect a laptop to the display with a mouse. Pull up a BLACK Screen & slowly run the mouse across the top & sides of the display to get a somewhat of an accurate zone count

It will probably help to look at the screen from angle around 45 or more, so the zones appear more obvious as you scroll the mouse across the screen. (dark room helps too).
I would run the mouse twice, once vertically and once horizontally, edge to edge and count the zones. Multiply the two numbers and it should give you total zone count for the screen.

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One other thing that will allow the zones to bloom a bit more, increase back light, contrast and brightness settings while you count.
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I am also interested in how it compares to a 670U. I was going to buy one of those but it is a smidgen too big for my cabinet. My friend has one and that is a nice set! The 610U will fit and the LG 47LW9800 probably will if they will ever release it. I'll probably go with the 610 or 9800. I'm still using and old 34" XBR Tube sony and while the picture is great I need a bigger set.
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Let's keep this thread going.... I want to know how many dimming zones this thing has. I can't wait for the shootout...I have my eye on this and the panasonic vx300..
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So this tv is finally surfacing but what is strange is not only has this been off toshibas website for months now but none of the usual suspects on amazon such as audio and video center, vannss, abt, etc. are selling this television, just a bunch of different sellers coming out of the woodwork selling this
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So this tv is finally surfacing but what is strange is not only has this been off toshibas website for months now but non of the usual suspects on amazon such as audio and video center, vannss, abt, etc. are selling this television, just a bunch of different sellers coming out of the woodwork selling this

Crutchfield and Conns have them. But I hear what you are saying. I wish I could make sence of it.

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Have you plugged this thing in yet. What is your review? Whats this thing look like
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Ok. I have plugged it up and viewed for most of the day. It has a much better picture than the 670U. Black levels are way better too. I am still playing around with the picture settings. I have not tested 3D material at all yet but plan to soon. I am overall happy with the TV and I feel it is a perfect replacement for the 670u. I actually feel that it was an upgrade. The only complaint I have is that windows 7 won't let me play my movies at 1080p23 with a full screen. I can watch at 60Hz in fullscreen but 23Hz fullscreens at 1770x1000p. It creates black bars on the left and right of the picture. So far, it is my only complaint.
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Did you put up a black screen and do a zone count with the cursor?
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Did you put up a black screen and do a zone count with the cursor?

I was trying. It was kind of hard to count them. I had the brightness settings wrong. The black levels on this TV are insanely black.
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It can be hard to tell when you are over a zone particularly if they are close together. What you are looking for is a slight bloom or glow when you are over a zone. If you can count at least one row and column, that will give a good guess on what the zone count is.
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its good to hear the picture and black levels are impressive.
How is the screen uniformity?
Feel free to copy these jpegs to a USB stick and view them on that TV. Once viewing in dark room, look around the edges and corners of screen for any clouding or flash lighting. It this is a true Full Array, it should be able to keep the black sections PURE black. Also make sure the Local Dimming is ON. I believe its called "DynaLight".
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I will try images on a USB. And will see if I can count the panels today. Been a lil busy trying to repair my fence.
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I will try images on a USB. And will see if I can count the panels today. Been a lil busy trying to repair my fence.

Great, we do appreciate your efforts here

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One thing I can say is that I love this tv. It is way better than my 55LX6500. In this case, size does NOT matter.
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Ok so like i said i found it odd that this tv was pulled from toshibas website a few months ago before this television was ever released and now they are showing up for sale.. and according to toshiba this is not bein manufactured for the usa at this time..

So i called connss retail store and they said that this tv had been discontinued and they bought the majority of thee remaining inventory for this television from toshiba to sell..
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These sets have active 3D right? Could be they are phasing out to passive 3D. There is also the TL515U models that have CEVO and passive 3D. How do these sets compare?
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Ok so like i said i found it odd that this tv was pulled from toshibas website a few months ago before this television was ever released and now they are showing up for sale.. and according to toshiba this is not bein manufactured for the usa at this time..

So i called connss retail store and they said that this tv had been discontinued and they bought the majority of thee remaining inventory for this television from toshiba to sell..

Wow. I am really confused then as well. Robert has added this set to the lineup for the HDTV shootout at VE in a few weeks. You would think he would be aware of the Toshiba's status...
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Wow. I am really confused then as well. Robert has added this set to the lineup for the HDTV shootout at VE in a few weeks. You would think he would be aware of the Toshiba's status...

Bama29,
I think Robert is most accessible on HTS forum. I know you have an account there. Do you mind asking him:

Where does Toshiba stand on this model?
Is it in fact Full Array?
and his thoughts on it...

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