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post #31 of 57 Old 09-26-2011, 08:36 PM
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Sharp won my business with the 60 835u. They certainly seem to have every corner of the lcd market covered this year.
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LG 55LW5600 puts a smile on my face and pocket book. Seriously, best set I have owned to date and this is coming from a hardcore Sony fan. Texans and Cowboys in 3D made a believer out of me. Maybe smoke and mirrors, but it looks great to me and my buds. It got 2 friends ordering one this week!
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We have to get over the "Sharp" is inferior as a brand stuff.

Samsung in 2000 - pretty much a joke.

LG (Lucky Goldstar) in 2005 - pretty much a joke.

Hyundai - Anything before 2005, pretty much a joke.

Things change. Will Sharp ever be able to build its brand as Samsung did so quickly with DLP and LED? Who knows...but they have delivered this year, and own a lot of plants oversees.

And there is a rumor Sharp will produce the next iPhone screen.

Times change.

They certainly do. But, I certainly won't be one of the first to take the plunge and hope their stuff is high-quality now. LOL!

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Wasn't there a thread not long ago claiming that there would be a market for a 70 inch screen and just about all the pundits on this forum called him crazy???

Not long ago? Don't know which one but this thread been around for some time...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1306090
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Really... Because of one 70", they are automatically the winner of what exactly..?
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My opinion of the 2011 winners is that i hope they release the 2012 versions soon!

Do not expect wallbusters from 2012 TVs. TV business is in really bad shape: demand is far below expectations, companies are struggling to contain losses, giants like Sony are saying goodby to manuf leaving only their badge on the sets. Add to this overall prospects that one would like to jump directly to 2013 skipping the 2012 altogether.

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Sharp invented the LCD and owns many patents, just ask Samsung about them.

Of course if cost is no object they are fully capable of teaming up with the Pioneer team to develop an amazing display.

Also consider Sharp makes money selling panels to other manufacturers so motivation to take over the market is likely not there and would probably cut into the profits of their low risk panel sales to their competition.
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Sharp more or less invented the LCD TV market. We have to get over pretending this somehow relates to 1985 Hyundai Excels.

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. (Oh, and plasma didn't die because of logistics problems, nor does OLED ship in big boxes because it comes from Korea.)
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Since so many companies get panels from Sharp, aren't you essentially getting a Sharp TV 90% of the time when you buy an LCD anyway? LOL!

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Since so many companies get panels from Sharp, aren't you essentially getting a Sharp TV 90% of the time when you buy an LCD anyway? LOL!

No, Sony takes the panels and puts their own technology into them. Sony sets always have a certain look and colors no matter which panels they use. Other manufacturers do the same, some using cheap parts that cause a poor performer, no reflection on the panel.
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Sharp doesn't sell much in the way of commodity panels right now anyway. And they are apparently trying to get out of the mid-range panel business to focus on the 60/70 business.

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. (Oh, and plasma didn't die because of logistics problems, nor does OLED ship in big boxes because it comes from Korea.)
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As much as I love the benchmark of the Elite, I think its way over priced and is a nose dive into the realm of insanity. The market for such a high end price in this economy is just not there.

That's just not true; it may not be a mass market but it's there.

Sony and JVC are coming out with 4K or pseudo-4K projectors in this market as well, and Runco hasn't stopped selling their products either.
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Really... Because of one 70", they are automatically the winner of what exactly..?

I think you really missed the point. It was felt by most on this forum that 70 inch panels would not sell at all.
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well sure sharp probably has the best PQ with their elites...but shouldn't we consider price too?? i think its about PQ vs Price vs Size. and that takes out sharp's elite panels out of the equations according to me...

so now sharp's 60/70inch 732/735/830 with good pq and great price
vs
sony's 55/46inch with amazing pq (the best in the market for these sizes and decent to great prices (below 2000 for most of the 55inches)
vs
samsung's very good PQ in most parts vs decent to great prices (i am not familiar with the model numbers of samsungs)
vs
LG's average PQ and great prices and 55 or below sizes

my choice would be sony (well i do own all sony products)..but i can understand why someone would say sharp coz of the added advantage of size minus the picture quality. I dont think Samsung or LG had that great of a year when it comes to delivering price vs performance.

but to each his own
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What Sharp has done is to re-establish awareness of the Sharp brand in the minds of the fickle public who for a few years were seduced by Samsung's often deceptive marketing blitz.

They've done this by building good (not videophile, but good) large screen sets at very reasonable prices and a truly premium line at premium prices. They've stopped trying to be all things to all people--those rebranded 20" Funais and other WalMart sets that soured thier image are gone.

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I think you really missed the point. It was felt by most on this forum that 70 inch panels would not sell at all.

No it wasn't. Please show us these posts as they don't exist.

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. (Oh, and plasma didn't die because of logistics problems, nor does OLED ship in big boxes because it comes from Korea.)
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Sharp has no presence at most Walmarts, which is sadly one of the biggest sellers of HDTVs.

If they could get Walmart to carry the 70" 732, then they might see their marketshare rise into the 5%-10% range....

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I think you really missed the point. It was felt by most on this forum that 70 inch panels would not sell at all.

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No it wasn't. Please show us these posts as they don't exist.

Not this year I think but certainly last year:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post20198628

I do have relatively long memory
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Sharp does have a presence @ Sam's Club, and those club members are more likely to fork over $3000 for a T.V. than Walmart shoppers, Sams/Walmart same company Sam's is a little more upscale
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Sharp has no presence at most Walmarts, which is sadly one of the biggest sellers of HDTVs.

If they could get Walmart to carry the 70" 732, then they might see their marketshare rise into the 5%-10% range....

Not sure which walmart you have at your place but Walmart doesn't carry large TV. If you see a single TV higher than 50" it's already a miracle. It takes too much space and Walmart would rather concentrate on selling smaller and cheaper sets. the only models you see at walmart are usually manufacturer's lower end models.
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Not sure which walmart you have at your place but Walmart doesn't carry large TV. If you see a single TV higher than 50" it's already a miracle. It takes too much space and Walmart would rather concentrate on selling smaller and cheaper sets. the only models you see at walmart are usually manufacturer's lower end models.

Every single wal mart I've ever been to does indeed carry larger sets then 50. You my friend are wrong.
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Every single wal mart I've ever been to does indeed carry larger sets then 50. You my friend are wrong.

I guess that's not the case with mines. I live close to 3 wallmart and none carry 55" or more sets. The biggest you can get is 46".

I live in Canada though so that might explains it.
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I guess that's not the case with mines. I live close to 3 wallmart and none carry 55" or more sets. The biggest you can get is 46".

I live in Canada though so that might explains it.

I live in the U.S. and usually don't see any tv over 50-55" size at my local wal marts.
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I don't know if Sharp "Won" the year....

but I saw the Elite and its beyond-amazing.

I also respect Sharp's quality improvement in recent years.

Back in 2008, Sharp and Samsung were "king" and leading the LCD pack.

By 2009 Sharp was a joke, but in 2011 nobody (in their right mind) is laughing at Sharp.

Expect the sales rep at best buy. or at least at the store i do most of work at they all hate sharps and tell customers that they only want plasma.
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I guess that's not the case with mines. I live close to 3 wallmart and none carry 55" or more sets. The biggest you can get is 46".

I live in Canada though so that might explains it.

I live by 3 of em as well. Every single one of them sell 55 inch LG, Samsung and Vizio sets.
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I guess that's not the case with mines. I live close to 3 wallmart and none carry 55" or more sets. The biggest you can get is 46".

I live in Canada though so that might explains it.

Probably because Canada uses the metric system and Walmart is a US based company. We Americans never could figure out metric measurement.
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