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post #361 of 3283 Old 11-21-2011, 09:04 PM
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So all sets have these clouds? What calibration settings can I tweak to minimize them?

Cloudiness seems to be common in these Sharp Full Array LED sets. I've had two 732's (warranty replacement) and both show cloudiness to varying degrees. The first was bad enough to get a replacement. The on the second set I can only see the cloudiness under conditions designed to bring it out.

I suggest using a lowest back light level you can -- the brighter the overall picture the more visible the clouds can be. Particularly at night.

If your set is bad enough that you can see the clouds during normal viewing (in non-black areas of the screen), Sharp might replace the set.

Here's a before and after on my set.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post20831246

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Well this was with only the tv on and no source, definitely saw uneven lighting (not whit spots just "lighter" areas of the screen). Should I return the set or will this go away with time?

See this thread. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1325652&page=6 At about post 160 pics are posted of the clouding on the 732 (without source) Read a page or two before and after. If it does not effect what you are seeing on the screen I wouldn't worry about it.

My 632 shows nothing at all like the pics in the 732 thread BTW
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See this thread. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1325652&page=6 At about post 160 pics are posted of the couding on the 732 (without source) Read a page or two before and after. If it does not effect what you are seeing on the screen I wouldn't worry about it.

My 632 shows nothing at all like the pics in the 732 thread BTW

Yea what I am experiencing is EXACTLY like what is shown in post 166 on that thread. So basically it's something you live with with all LED TVs (new to me)?

Wonder why yours does not have the effect and mine does. Sometimes it is noticeable, on like a very dark or white scene.
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as he said, if its not something you see in your overall pq, I wouldnt sweat it. Banding, clouds and all sorts of lovely artifacts seem to be the norm these days. Its exasperated as these panels get bigger and bigger it seems.

Settle in, get it dialed in and enjoy. Just close your eyes when you have no source
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as he said, if its not something you see in your overall pq, I wouldnt sweat it. Banding, clouds and all sorts of lovely artifacts seem to be the norm these days. Its exasperated as these panels get bigger and bigger it seems.

Settle in, get it dialed in and enjoy. Just close your eyes when you have no source

Yea I hear ya, would hate to get another set that is worse still lol. Does your set have any of these issues?

With regards to cal, what settings can you play with to minimize the effect and are there any other techniques out there (heard rubbing the screen with a cloth?) that can help?
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Yea I hear ya, would hate to get another set that is worse still lol. Does your set have any of these issues?

With regards to cal, what settings can you play with to minimize the effect and are there any other techniques out there (heard rubbing the screen with a cloth?) that can help?

The rubbing the screen with a WONK cloth only works if at the same time you chant "clouds go away, clouds go away...etc.
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Cloudiness seems to be common in these Sharp Full Array LED sets. I've had two 732's (warranty replacement) and both show cloudiness to varying degrees. The first was bad enough to get a replacement. The on the second set I can only see the cloudiness under conditions designed to bring it out.

I suggest using a lowest back light level you can -- the brighter the overall picture the more visible the clouds can be. Particularly at night.

If your set is bad enough that you can see the clouds during normal viewing (in non-black areas of the screen), Sharp might replace the set.

Here's a before and after on my set.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post20831246

Didn't see this post before, thanks for the info. Could you point me to the exact post # you are referring to?
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The rubbing the screen with a WONK cloth only works if at the same time you chant "clouds go away, clouds go away...etc.

Lol
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Hello to all.

I have read this entire thread with great interest, and have a quick question or two.

Other than the size difference, are there any other differences between the LC-80LE632U and the LC-70LE632U?

Are the calibration settings posted in this thread likely to have a similar effect between the 70 and 80?

I ask because the price of the 70-inch version is less than half of the 80-inch here.

Thanks!

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Didn't see this post before, thanks for the info. Could you point me to the exact post # you are referring to?

#2403 -- the link takes you right to it.

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#2403 -- the link takes you right to it.

Ah yes, didn't work on the mobile for some reason. Yea it looks like it is just something I am going to have to live with for this type of TV eh (nature of the beast so to speak)? Mine looks to have a similar response to your second picture. So in yall's opinion, exchanging the TV is a gamble basically because the next one could be better or worse?

On a somehwat related note, what PS3 settings are recommended for calibration of this TV: superwhite on/off and RGB limited or full?
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For calibrating these TVs, does it matter which mode you are in to start with? Reason I ask is I saw lots of audio delay with any mode minus GAME and would prefer to leave it there, but I don't know if it is doing anything else that I wouldn't want for say movies "behind the scenes". Thanks!
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Also, I noticed an audio lag with this set while watching blurays which was NOT present with my old TV. Is there something that I can adjust to fix this, must be TV specific?

Thanks in advance

I have the 80" Sharp in my non-dedicated section on the main floor. As soon as I swapped out the 65" Panasonic plasma for the Sharp, a pronounced lip-synch lag developed.

The lip synch was barely noticeable on most network television, but very noticeable on 1080p material, such as Blu-Ray, or DirecTV 1080p purchases.

Eventually, I found the lip-synch correction in my Sony receiver, the 5400ES model. It permits for adjustments, by 10MS increments, up to 300MS. For what it's worth, it took implementing all the way up to 200MS of delay in the receiver to equalize the audio and video. The Sony manual indicates that this is common with larger flat screen sets, but the 65" Panasonic wasn't exactly small, and it needed no correction.

Good luck.

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Hello to all.

I have read this entire thread with great interest, and have a quick question or two.

Other than the size difference, are there any other differences between the LC-80LE632U and the LC-70LE632U?

Are the calibration settings posted in this thread likely to have a similar effect between the 70 and 80?

I ask because the price of the 70-inch version is less than half of the 80-inch here.

Thanks!

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I just tried out Rage2's setting from an earlier post and the set looks great to me. I'm using them on an LC70LE632U.
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I just tried out Rage2's setting from an earlier post and the set looks great to me. I'm using them on an LC70LE632U.

Can you share the post #?
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Can you share the post #?

#150

here is the Link
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here is the Link
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Thanks. I tried those settings and it really appears to mess up my blues and yellows. I hope someone comes out with a cal set that is truly for our 70" 632 model!
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I was looking at the tonik's pictures, i noticed he had bias lighting. Does bias lighting help with perceived contrast or anything?
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Rockaway...I have a question for you. I noticed from a few post, that you have the 70 & 80 inch Sharp. I would like to know how does Cable Hd look on the 80 compared to the 70 inch. I have DirecTv & Hd looks beautiful on the 70 I have currently. I am interested in the 80 to go on my 12 ft. wall in my house, but the only thing stopping me is how Hd would look. I mainly watch cable/broadcast hd and that could be a deal breaker....if Hd is very soft on the 80. I am currently at 12 ft. back from my 70, and I would have to put the 80 on the wall...so my viewing distance would be 13 ft.
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Rockaway...I have a question for you. I noticed from a few post, that you have the 70 & 80 inch Sharp. I would like to know how does Cable Hd look on the 80 compared to the 70 inch. I have DirecTv & Hd looks beautiful on the 70 I have currently. I am interested in the 80 to go on my 12 ft. wall in my house, but the only thing stopping me is how Hd would look. I mainly watch cable/broadcast hd and that could be a deal breaker....if Hd is very soft on the 80. I am currently at 12 ft. back from my 70, and I would have to put the 80 on the wall...so my viewing distance would be 13 ft.

Dont hesitate is what he will say
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And you would be 100% right. I have Directv too. It looks fantastic.
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Thanks For the replies Suzook & Rockaway.....looks like I will be upgrading, will be great to have a bit more screen real estate.
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Thanks For the replies Suzook & Rockaway.....looks like I will be upgrading, will be great to have a bit more screen real estate.

It's more than a little more real estate. The difference is stunning !! You can't really tell til you have it home and in place. Then you sit back and say HOLLY SH*$ !!!!!
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I'm ordering up the 70le632u today at HH. After reading all the posts about the differences in the 632 and 732 I cant see spending another $500 for the Quatron. This will replace a 52" Sharp we bought many years ago. At $2000 this should keep me satisfied for many years. Dont need 3D.

Thanks to all who gave their input.
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I'm ordering up the 70le632u today at HH. After reading all the posts about the differences in the 632 and 732 I cant see spending another $500 for the Quatron. This will replace a 52" Sharp we bought many years ago. At $2000 this should keep me satisfied for many years. Dont need 3D.

Thanks to all who gave their input.

I think you're going to love it.
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I saw the Sharp 80" at Best Buy Magnolia today, and was impressed. The picture is definitely an improvement over the Sharp 70". Viewing angle and evenness were better. It seemed like they fixed the problems of the 70". It is just big enough to get that immersive movie" experience that you just can't quite get with a 65" TV no matter how close you sit.

I did see the graininess people were describing, and no it it not because you are too close, although certainly the closer you are the more you see it. Certain types of material seem to "set it off". I did not see the same issue with similar material on a nearby Panasonic plasma 65" VT30. I think there is a quirk in the video processing. It is not there all the time.

The picture is not as natural as the Panny VT30, but still very good. I put the set in Film mode, and was pleasantly surprised that the colors were not all pumped up, giving everything a cartoon look, that you so often see on LCDs. It is one of the few LCDs that is enjoyable to watch.

I hear some people saying they are waiting for features such as Quattron. What for? It doesn't expand the color space any, and it just one more subpixel to get stuck or burn out. When I asked Sharp at CES what real benefit Quattron has, they couldn't give me one. I'm glad they didn't put Quattron on this set.

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I don't care about Quattron or 3D but I would like local dimming for sure...
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I think you're going to love it.

Yes, I am a huge fan
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And you would be 100% right. I have Directv too. It looks fantastic.

To me it really depends on the course. Things like HBO and animal planet HD look amazing, but certain CNN shows or lower quality broadcasts like ABC look worse.
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Picked up our LC70LE632U yesterday at HH for $1999 + tax. Setting it up this afternoon. Can't wait!
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