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Hi folks. First post, please be gentle. I found this forum upon doing some googling and realize my question has been covered in general terms, but I'm trying to get a full understanding of the issue.

I recently purchase a Sharp Aquos LC-52LE832U as an upgrade from an old 40" Sony Bravia LCD. Upon bringing it home, I immediately noticed two issues:

1) When playing video games (Skyrim, specifically, on XBox 360) I noticed a strange warbly effect at the bottom of the screen when running.

2) When watching TV/movies, everything looked like Canadian TV (what people seem to call the Soap Opera Effect).

I got to googling and learned about the frame interpolation that 120Hz/240Hz TVs do and this appeared to be the problem -- can't believe its on by default. I have since turned my Film Mode to "Off" and both of the above problems disappeared. However I don't notice a difference with the Motion Enhancement settings so I was hoping for a bit of education.

My TV setting options are shown below:
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Film Mode (3:2 pull-down)

Automatically detects a film-based source (originally encoded at 24 frames/second), analyzes it then recreates each still frame for high definition picture quality.

Advanced(High)/Advanced(Low): Select a desired level to remove jerkiness from film contents.
Standard: Detects, analyzes, converts film source.
Off: Normal viewing mode

Okay, so what I assume this means is that "Advanced High/Low" (don't know what the diff is between them) is doing frame interpolation, where its essentially creating new frames in between real frames, resulting in SOE. "Standard" is doing 60Hz-stye 3:2 which can result in some jitteriness. And "Off" is doing 10:10, which means frame duplication (i.e. normal).

Changing to Standard or Off got rid of my SOE. Right now I have all AV modes set to Off.

Then there's Motion Enhancement, which is what I thought was actually the issue until I started researching.

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Motion Enhancement

Use Motion Enhancement to view fast-action video more clearly.

AquoMotion240: Turns the LED scanning backlight on or off to display motion picture more smoothly and clearly.
120Hz High/120Hz Low: For obtaining a clearer image.
Off: Normal image

I'll be honest. I have no idea what this setting does, or how it relates to the SOE or any other issues. Looking for education.

I understand this is a wordy post but you guys are the experts, so I was hoping I could start down a road of informed TV setting. Many thanks.
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How much or how better is Aquamotion 240 scanning backlight compared to standard 120hz?

Im thinking of taking my LC60e79U back and getting the LC60LE633U.
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Aquosmotion 240Hz reduces the contrast of the picture and it makes the resulting image look inferior imo to 120 High / Low, thus I don't use it. Regarding the film mode settings turning it off is the best option since it cures the SOE and also allows correct processing of 1080p24 external sources.
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Look at my posts in the 70LE632 thread...I just bought this yesterday evening.

Soap Opera Effect - When I first turned it on, watching Modern Family, the SOE was unbelievable, and I was almost dizzy. I got used to it, somewhat, but after turning off Film Mode, it disappeared...back to a completely "normal" look, like my plasma.

Motion Enhancement - Out-of-the-box, this is set to "120 Hz - High" (on the 632), yet I saw significant motion-blur. I set it to "Off" (other option is 120 Hz - Low), and it completely disappeared. This seems counter-intuitive, but that's what happened.

Also, make sure "OPC" is set to "Off." This is some sort of power-saving, automatic brightness adjustment, but the picture looks better with it set to "Off."
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Thanks guys. Can you confirm my assumptions about the film mode settings and what they translate to? Also, would still like more clarification on what the motion enhancement settings actually do and how one differs from the other as listed in the OP. Cheers.
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Thanks guys. Can you confirm my assumptions about the film mode settings and what they translate to? Also, would still like more clarification on what the motion enhancement settings actually do and how one differs from the other as listed in the OP. Cheers.

I can't add anything more than what I see...have not read the manual, just trying to end up with what looks the best to me, and closest to what I had with my plasma.
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I can't add anything more than what I see...have not read the manual, just trying to end up with what looks the best to me, and closest to what I had with my plasma.

Do you know what the diff between 120 high and 120 low is for motion enhancement?
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Do you know what the diff between 120 high and 120 low is for motion enhancement?

I don't...I went from 120 High to Off, and it looks a helluva lot better...don't know what 120 Low would do...
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I personally, dig the SOE. I think it makes movies look more "3D'ish" without having a 3D tv.

Is Fine Motion Enhanced set to "on" and Film Mode set to "Advanced/High" the best way to achieve this?
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Do you know what the diff between 120 high and 120 low is for motion enhancement?

I spent a fair amount of time (on my 735) watching a couple of motion scenes, switching between Off, 120 Low and 120 High over and over and decided on 120 Low as the best way to eliminate what seemed like a jerkiness to the motion, without causing any unwanted anomalies. Later I read on the Elite thread that 120 Low was the preferred setting for that set as well for some owners. Been using it for three weeks now and have been happy with that setting. I saw a slight difference between low and high but would have a hard time describing what it is. I think when it comes to processing effects, less is enough if none is too little.
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I personally, dig the SOE. I think it makes movies look more "3D'ish" without having a 3D tv.


Is Fine Motion Enhanced set to "on" and Film Mode set to "Advanced/High" the best way to achieve this?

Does anyone know the exact setup to achieve the SOE with the Aquos?
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SOE on == film mode on.
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