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Hello,

I have an update for my defective TV.

After sending Sharp Pictures, they have offered to send me a new TV which is a slight upgrade. It will be an even swap.

For my LC-60LE632U, they will replace it with the Sharp Quattron LC60LE830U.

It will be delivered to my house and setup by them and they will take the other back with them. Should receive it in about 7 to 10 business days.

Anyone know much about this TV?

So far it's been very good customer service by Sharp.

Hello,

Just got my replacement TV (LC60LE830U) and so far it appears to be OK. There are still some faint lines in the corners but I believe this must just be the effect of the edge lighting which were visible on my LC60LE632U also. The 6 wide vertical lines across the screen on the LC60LE632U are no longer there on the LC60LE830U which did appear to be a film wrinkle issue.

The TV was delivered and setup by the delivery team and they took the LC60LE632U with them. So far so good. I'll have to recommend Sharp on the Customer Service alone.

The PQ is OK and I'm still working on some calibration settings.

Thanks for all the help guys.
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Ok here is a FULL 6500k/D65 for the 60LE632... enjoy, as this is possibly the last time I'll ever do this.

Set your Blu Ray player to 4:2:2 if it has selectable modes, most players default to 4:2:2 (the 632 does not handle 4:4:4 properly).

This is GAME mode, target of 40 ftL, with all bells-n-whistles turned off for the Video purist crowd.

OPC = off
Backlight = +2 (-3 works well in dark room)
Contrast = +26 (Up to 30 for more POP with slight alteration to calibration)
Brightness = +1
Color = -5 (red)
Tint = +4 (cyan)
Sharpness = +1 (or 0)

Color Temp = Low
LO
R = +13
G = 0
B = -29

HI
R = +3
G = 0
B = -18

Active Contrast = OFF (you can use it but it does alter some of the calibration)
Gamma = -2 (or -1 if you use Active Contrast)

HUE
R +5
Y +1
G -8
C +1
B +3
M -3

SAT
R +1
Y +2
G 0
C 0
B +13
M +1

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R +3
Y 0
G +13
C 0
B +30
M 0

* For those that want a bit more POP this combo still graph's fairly well with only slight loss of accuracy... Contrast = up to 29 / Gamma = -1 / Active Contrast = ON (backlight at +2 for bright room or -3 for dark room)

These TV's have an issue with Red so if you feel like tweaking to your liking please feel free to do so.

If you adjust the backlight or contrast setting it will also slightly alter the calibration (the above numbers were right at 40 ftL).

Please remember that I do not do this for a living so if you want something more than what this offers please support all the great ISF certified tech's out there.

ALSO, for those new to 6500k/D65, these are for accuracy and as such they are not as vivid as what you may be used to.

Hope you like,
Jason

Used this Calibration on my 830 and looks great. Tried 2 others posted for the 830, one by Cnet and another from a avsforum post but they were nowhere near as good.

Thanks again Jason.
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Hehe, that's awesome! Never would have thought they would cross over well to an 830.

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Is there any significant difference between the 632 and the 832 warranting the $300 for a 60 inch set. I can't see any difference in the store but I am color blind. The CNET review claims that the yellow pixel is a shell game since only RBG signals are broadcast.
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Is there any significant difference between the 632 and the 832 warranting the $300 for a 60 inch set. I can't see any difference in the store but I am color blind. The CNET review claims that the yellow pixel is a shell game since only RBG signals are broadcast.

It is a shell game. I have an 830 with the yellow pixel and makes no difference at all and Jason was correct about the blacks not being as good. Save the 300 and go with the 632. I had both and liked the 632 just a bit better due to the blacks.
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It is a shell game. I have an 830 with the yellow pixel and makes no difference at all and Jason was correct about the blacks not being as good. Save the 300 and go with the 632. I had both and liked the 632 just a bit better due to the blacks.

Thanks for your input. This seems to be the consensus. Interesting article on p. 51 of this magazine

http://dl.maximumpc.com/Archives/MPC0710-web.pdf
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http://www.amazon.com/Sharp-AQUOS-LC60LE632U-60-inch-LED-LCD/dp/B004OBZM8G/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1329428440&sr=1-2

Looking to buy this for my dad. Is it a good price? Thanks.

$1399 plus tax and delivery at Costco for the 633 model which has the 240Hz refresh (who cares). Best Buy has this model for $1399 which includes delivery. Pacific sales has it for a bit lower but may be OOS waiting for the 2012s.
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$1399 plus tax and delivery at Costco for the 633 model which has the 240Hz refresh (who cares). Best Buy has this model for $1399 which includes delivery. Pacific sales has it for a bit lower but may be OOS waiting for the 2012s.

Picked up the display model of the LC-60LE633U at Costco for $1180 just by talking to the manager. Didn't really haggle hard just asked if they could do a better price. They're clearing out inventory since the new 2012 models are due soon, so check locally if you don't mind open box. It's a really nice looking TV, beats my old Sharp LC-52D62U by leaps and bounds, so far very happy with it! Tweaked the colors with settings in this thread and it looks better than factory too.
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Picked up the display model of the LC-60LE633U at Costco for $1180 just by talking to the manager. Didn't really haggle hard just asked if they could do a better price. They're clearing out inventory since the new 2012 models are due soon, so check locally if you don't mind open box. It's a really nice looking TV, beats my old Sharp LC-52D62U by leaps and bounds, so far very happy with it! Tweaked the colors with settings in this thread and it looks better than factory too.

That is an excellent way to go. No two TVs are the same so you can take a really good look at the picture quality of the actual set you are buying.

If anyone else does this, be sure to look at light solid backgrounds as in white, pastels, or beige and look for irregularities in the picture. See attached examples of what type of patterns to look for.
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Thanks for your input. This seems to be the consensus. Interesting article on p. 51 of this magazine

http://dl.maximumpc.com/Archives/MPC0710-web.pdf

Good read. Thanks for the link.
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http://www.amazon.com/Sharp-AQUOS-LC60LE632U-60-inch-LED-LCD/dp/B004OBZM8G/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1329428440&sr=1-2

Looking to buy this for my dad. Is it a good price? Thanks.

Got my LC-60LE632U at hhgregg for $1289.99 in November 2011.
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Used this Calibration on my 830 and looks great. Tried 2 others posted for the 830, one by Cnet and another from a avsforum post but they were nowhere near as good.

Thanks again Jason.

I tried these settings on my 632 and like them but I have severe lip sync issues when I use them with my Directv. I have my Directv hooked up straight to the TV using HDMI and playing audio through the speakers. Any ideas. When I use my own settings in Movie mode everything is fine.
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I tried these settings on my 632 and like them but I have severe lip sync issues when I use them with my Directv. I have my Directv hooked up straight to the TV using HDMI and playing audio through the speakers. Any ideas. When I use my own settings in Movie mode everything is fine.

I run everything (DirecTV, XBox, DVD, etc) through my receiver's HDMI port and I'm not having any real problems. Occasionally I have lip sync issues but I believe it's the station's fault when it happens. If I change the channel it will go away, but it's rare when the lip sync issues happen. My receiver is a Pioneer Elite.
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HI ....I have the LC-060LE632U model and a NAD T748....they are connected via a good quality HDMI cable from ARC to ARC....when I turn on the TV, I continuously get the message that the Aquos Link is disabled and the Aquos speaker is enabled...I have to re-set the Aquos Audio SP setting on the TV so that it outputs audio to the NAD.......I think this should be a set it and forget it thing......any one else have this issue and or can offer me a solution...

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So it seems one of the differences between the LC-60LE632U and the LC-60LE633U is that the 633 lacks IP Control, even though many websites around incorrectly list them as being identical in this sense.

Are there any hacks to enable IP Control? It seems like it's just a firmware thing, since both TV's are internet connected and otherwise so similar.
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OK guys, I am trying some various source generation methods and would like some feedback on these settings (if anyone cares to try them).

Blu-ray player set to 4:2:2, Standard mode, Deep Color Disabled

40 ftL target, Gamma @ 2.2

MOVIE mode (Yeah! )

Backlight +2
Contrast +27 (you can go up to 32 if desired but after 27 you'll start to color shift and push a little Red into the upper IRE range, after 29 you'll also start to over saturate some of the colors* if Active Contrast is enabled)
Brightness +1
Color 0
Tint -3
Sharpness +1

Gamma -2

All other settings disabled (if you wish to enable Active Contrast you'll probably want to change Gamma from -2 to -1)

Color Temp = Low

LO
R +14
G 0
B -30

HI
R +5
G +1 (Green was not tracking flat 6500k & Red/Blue would not pull it in)
B -17

CMS HSV

Hue
R +9
Y +7
G -5
C -3
B +1
M 0

Saturation
R 0
Y -3
G 0
C 0
B +7
M -12

Value
R -3
Y 0
G +15
C 0
B +16
M 0


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^^^

well jason i plugged these in on my 80", and they along with your game mode settings look really good. i'm amazed as to how well they are transferring over to my 80". thx for your continued contribution.....

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OK guys, I am trying some various source generation methods and would like some feedback on these settings (if anyone cares to try them).

Blu-ray player set to 4:2:2, Standard mode, Deep Color Disabled

40 ftL target, Gamma @ 2.2

MOVIE mode (Yeah! )

Backlight +2
Contrast +27 (you can go up to 32 if desired but after 27 you'll start to color shift a bit and push a little Red into the upper IRE range, after 29 you'll also start to over saturate some of the colors)
Brightness +1
Color 0
Tint -3
Sharpness +1

Gamma -2

All other settings disabled (if you wish to enable Active Contrast you'll probably want to change Gamma from -2 to -1)

Color Temp = Low

LO
R +14
G 0
B -30

HI
R +5
G +1 (Green was not tracking flat 6500k & Red/Blue would not pull it in)
B -17

CMS HSV

Hue
R +9
Y +7
G -5
C -3
B +1
M 0

Saturation
R 0
Y -3
G 0
C 0
B +7
M -12

Value
R -3
Y 0
G +15
C 0
B +16
M 0

Jason

Great news Jason! Although I am loving your game mode settings after minor tweaks, I am very curious to try these out! I do have a question though......I use a PS3 for my bluray source, and completely forgot to turn off deep color before I started to use your game settings. I finally got around to this yesterday......and for some reason, I am not seeing any difference with it on or off??? I used several movie scenes, then used the WOW disc and there seems to be no change on the chroma calibration screen or any of the test scenes. What am I am I missing and what should I be looking for? Thanks,
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If anyone interested, I came across a website with service manuals. Here is a manual for 60LE632U, look at the bottom right for download link "Get Manual"

http://elektrotanya.com/sharp_lc-60l.../download.html
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well jason i plugged these in on my 80", and they along with your game mode settings look really good. i'm amazed as to how well they are transferring over to my 80". thx for your continued contribution.....

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Great news Jason! Although I am loving your game mode settings after minor tweaks, I am very curious to try these out! I do have a question though......I use a PS3 for my bluray source, and completely forgot to turn off deep color before I started to use your game settings. I finally got around to this yesterday......and for some reason, I am not seeing any difference with it on or off??? I used several movie scenes, then used the WOW disc and there seems to be no change on the chroma calibration screen or any of the test scenes. What am I am I missing and what should I be looking for? Thanks,

Deep color can cause different issues and even though often there are none I feel it is best to simply disable it since it is not used anyway (there is zero benefit to having it enabled).


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If anyone interested, I came across a website with service manuals. Here is a manual for 60LE632U, look at the bottom right for download link "Get Manual"

http://elektrotanya.com/sharp_lc-60l.../download.html

Thanks for that Gordon, much appreciated!


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If anyone interested, I came across a website with service manuals. Here is a manual for 60LE632U, look at the bottom right for download link "Get Manual"

http://elektrotanya.com/sharp_lc-60l.../download.html

That's pretty awesome of you to share that with us, thanks! Unfortunately that site is extremely shady looking and I couldn't get the download to work. Would someone be willing to rehost it on rapidshare or something?
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Deep color can cause different issues and even though often there are none I feel it is best to simply disable it since it is not used anyway (there is zero benefit to having it enabled).


Jason

Thanks Jason, appreciate the explanation.
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OK guys, I am trying some various source generation methods and would like some feedback on these settings (if anyone cares to try them).

Blu-ray player set to 4:2:2, Standard mode, Deep Color Disabled

40 ftL target, Gamma @ 2.2

MOVIE mode (Yeah! )

Backlight +2
Contrast +27 (you can go up to 32 if desired but after 27 you'll start to color shift a bit and push a little Red into the upper IRE range, after 29 you'll also start to over saturate some of the colors)
Brightness +1
Color 0
Tint -3
Sharpness +1

Gamma -2

All other settings disabled (if you wish to enable Active Contrast you'll probably want to change Gamma from -2 to -1)

Color Temp = Low

LO
R +14
G 0
B -30

HI
R +5
G +1 (Green was not tracking flat 6500k & Red/Blue would not pull it in)
B -17

CMS HSV

Hue
R +9
Y +7
G -5
C -3
B +1
M 0

Saturation
R 0
Y -3
G 0
C 0
B +7
M -12

Value
R -3
Y 0
G +15
C 0
B +16
M 0


Jason

Once again, thanks Jason for taking the time to calibrate and share your settings!

Movie Mode Observations: I have been using Jason's Game mode and have been quite happy with BluRay and Satellite. After posting these Movie Mode settings I figured I would give them a shot, and overall I like them more than Game Mode, especially with Satellite content. Movie Mode seems dimmer, even pre-calibration than Game Mode, so I used Jason's +2 backlight setting and it gave more punch than 0 and didn't seem to affect black levels. Using Game Mode with Dish Network was pretty good, but it always had a green push, especially on certain channels. For example, Ax Men on History some scenes had the trees looking neon, Movie Mode tames this issue and everything looks much more natural. I did not notice the green issue with Bluray on PS3, but again, even without that issue Movie Mode looks much better. At first I thought I was losing shadow detail in dark areas compared to Game Mode, so I put WOW back in to check and everything seemed correct with Brightness at +1. After further viewing I came to the conclusion that shadow detail is not lacking, in fact Movie Mode actually shows more shadow detail, it's just a softer effect. Game Mode almost seems too contrasty in dark areas. The biggest benefit that I observed with Movie Mode though it in light areas. Highlights and details really stand out, and the image has more definition and 3D like qualities. Anyone with WOW can test this by using the Surrogates test scene three that opens with the helicopter. Compared to Game, Movie Mode has more sharpness, definition and pop in the clouds and city scape. Switching back and forth about 100 times with several test scenes I am really impressed with these settings......and I was very content with Game before.

Now, another observation, and this applies to 1080/24p bluray as well as 1080i Satellite: Even with all motion enhancement off, Movie mode introduces lip sync issues with an AVR. I am using HDMI for bluray and Optical for Satellite and both inputs show this. I compensated by adding 100ms of delay, confirmed with the audio sync test on WOW. I had purchased a new AVR when I got this set just in case and I am glad that I did because I am really enjoying Movie mode now.

Again, thanks Jason, your time and willingness to share is much appreciated!
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thanks again.....


still loving game mode...


movie looked different but not necessarily better for me..game all the way...
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Once again, thanks Jason for taking the time to calibrate and share your settings!

Movie Mode Observations: I have been using Jason's Game mode and have been quite happy with BluRay and Satellite. After posting these Movie Mode settings I figured I would give them a shot, and overall I like them more than Game Mode, especially with Satellite content. Movie Mode seems dimmer, even pre-calibration than Game Mode, so I used Jason's +2 backlight setting and it gave more punch than 0 and didn't seem to affect black levels. Using Game Mode with Dish Network was pretty good, but it always had a green push, especially on certain channels. For example, Ax Men on History some scenes had the trees looking neon, Movie Mode tames this issue and everything looks much more natural. I did not notice the green issue with Bluray on PS3, but again, even without that issue Movie Mode looks much better. At first I thought I was losing shadow detail in dark areas compared to Game Mode, so I put WOW back in to check and everything seemed correct with Brightness at +1. After further viewing I came to the conclusion that shadow detail is not lacking, in fact Movie Mode actually shows more shadow detail, it's just a softer effect. Game Mode almost seems too contrasty in dark areas. The biggest benefit that I observed with Movie Mode though it in light areas. Highlights and details really stand out, and the image has more definition and 3D like qualities. Anyone with WOW can test this by using the Surrogates test scene three that opens with the helicopter. Compared to Game, Movie Mode has more sharpness, definition and pop in the clouds and city scape. Switching back and forth about 100 times with several test scenes I am really impressed with these settings......and I was very content with Game before.

Now, another observation, and this applies to 1080/24p bluray as well as 1080i Satellite: Even with all motion enhancement off, Movie mode introduces lip sync issues with an AVR. I am using HDMI for bluray and Optical for Satellite and both inputs show this. I compensated by adding 100ms of delay, confirmed with the audio sync test on WOW. I had purchased a new AVR when I got this set just in case and I am glad that I did because I am really enjoying Movie mode now.

Again, thanks Jason, your time and willingness to share is much appreciated!

Thank You for the detailed impressions, that's what I was hoping for.

I did Movie mode a bit different than Game and tested various source methods so there are indeed differences here and there between the two.

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My hope is this leads to more people either going the DIY calibration route with real gear or hiring an ISF tech after developing an appreciation for more accurate displays.

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update on jason's settings:

after further review game mode is spot on my 80" set. movie mode pushes to much red,especially face tones. movie mode does seem to have more of richer look to it however.

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update on jason's settings:

after further review game mode is spot on my 80" set. movie mode pushes to much red,especially face tones. movie mode does seem to have more of richer look to it however.

There we have a possible 'tolerance variable' because on my set the Movie settings are indeed more accurate than the Game settings.

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OK guys, I am trying some various source generation methods and would like some feedback on these settings (if anyone cares to try them).

Blu-ray player set to 4:2:2, Standard mode, Deep Color Disabled

40 ftL target, Gamma @ 2.2

MOVIE mode (Yeah! )

Backlight +2
Contrast +27 (you can go up to 32 if desired but after 27 you'll start to color shift and push a little Red into the upper IRE range, after 29 you'll also start to over saturate some of the colors* if Active Contrast is enabled)
Brightness +1
Color 0
Tint -3
Sharpness +1

Gamma -2

All other settings disabled (if you wish to enable Active Contrast you'll probably want to change Gamma from -2 to -1)

Color Temp = Low

LO
R +14
G 0
B -30

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R +5
G +1 (Green was not tracking flat 6500k & Red/Blue would not pull it in)
B -17

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Hue
R +9
Y +7
G -5
C -3
B +1
M 0

Saturation
R 0
Y -3
G 0
C 0
B +7
M -12

Value
R -3
Y 0
G +15
C 0
B +16
M 0

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Thanks so much Jason, I'll plug these in and report back!
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Thanks so much Jason, I'll plug these in and report back!

Sounds good, hope they work out on your set.

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