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I connect a USB flash drive to my TV and watch movies from it.

I purchased a 3TB external HD tonight (Connect it to the same TV USB port the flash drive was using.) but I cannot see the external drive/files on my TV (The TV does not recognize the device)

I am using a Samsung UN46D6420 LED.

I was told that TV's have a difficult time reading large external hard drives.
Some will, some won't.

But a drive that is 1TB and under will often be recognized.

I would really like large storage for my TV - 3TB/4TB rather than getting multiple 1 TB drives. Is there any way I can make this work?

Also does anyone even know if a 1 TB drive will work? I don't want to make an unnecessary return.

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My Samsung (UN22C4000) recognizes a 500GB Iomega portable which is powered through the USB, and my new 1TB Iomega also works, but I need to disconnect one to use the other. The best choice might be to use a drive with its own power or get a powered hub. My guess is that 2TB is the upper limit for individual drives.

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I remember I had to update BIOS, so my 4 yr old computer could recognize bigger than 1TB HDD, over 1TB size drives are relatively new. Not sure if TV limitations can be simply fixed by firmware or need some extensive rewriting of the code, but at least 2 models I checked stated 1TB limit in the manual.
One workaround could be to use network capabilities either build into TV or BR drive and access it that way, but it is more complex to setup. I'm sure larger drive capability will come to new models in the future, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for older models to be updated.
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It doesn't say in the manual what the maximum size is for USB HDs on the Samsung. It does say hubs are not supported, but I have gotten both drives enabled at once through an extension cable and a 4 port hub. Usually one of them stops working, but I might try eliminating the cable and connect the hub by its dongle and see what happens.

Later....I connected the hub by its dongle without the extension cord and both drives work now. Damn, this is a good feature. The only real limitation that bothers me is the lack of DTS support.

On the whole I prefer to watch my videos through the PC using the HDMI/DVI PC arrangement. Video, games and webpages all look sharp this way.

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Did you try this ? Works for me.
http://audioconverter.heartware.dk/Tutorial/

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The only real limitation that bothers me is the lack of DTS support.

On the whole I prefer to watch my videos through the PC using the HDMI/DVI PC arrangement. Video, games and webpages all look sharp this way.

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What about getting a Western Digital Media player?

Connecting the 3TB+ HD's to that (It has 2 USB ports)

Then connecting the WD Media Player to the TV?

Hmm it won't let me post the URL....
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There are 2 items u must mind:

A TV's USB plug can only provide about 1/2 amp power, a green/low power, can power from USB-only drive have a better chance of working. Typically larger drive=draws more power. A POWERED USB HUB, as mentioned *may* bypass this problem.

Often the TV will understand FAT, maybe FAT32 formatting and that's it. U can experiment this ezly by formatting your dongle with the different formats and see what the TV can see.

Oh and b4r u go ga-ga over a TV USB connection (the cheapskate's media server), it often only understands a few video formats and that's it. Video through DLNA typically allows more video formats. AND if that's not enough there's been reports that some TV cannot deal with large files through the USB. Same TV! yup! we didn't design the thing.
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My drives are all NTFS and they work fine. Even files as large as 15GB play without difficulty. As far as file types go, other than the DTS restriction I haven't found anything that doesn't play. If there are 2 sound tracks the TV defaults to the non-DTS one and starts playing.

I think the power issue is a real constraint which may or may not limit multiple drives depending on their individual characteristics. Some portable drives don't use much power, like my Iomegas. I've been lucky, I guess. I bought the TV without any idea about how useful the USB would be. I knew it played videos, but assumed I'd have problems like others have had.

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Did you try this ? Works for me.
http://audioconverter.heartware.dk/Tutorial/

I might give it a try as an alternative to Handbrake when I don't want to transcode video.

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What about getting a Western Digital Media player?

They don't do Amazon VOD, which I use frequently. Anyway I still like PC best for all purpose media play (I use it for Amazon VOD downloads, which I prefer to streams). If I fix my bedroom PC I'll move the drives back to that. The USB TV option is just a really good second choice.

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I dont have a problem "seeing" the drive, TV cant see all files on drive. ie I have 200 mp4 files and tv only sees first 29 of them. Seagate SLIM 500G....and Large thumb drives; movies crash when more than 40% full. You guys are talking TBs!! i cant even see a whole 32G jump drive!! AND as for network connection to PC via media center, same issue displaying all files in server directory. So is there a work around or am i the only one with the capacity issues?!?
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What about getting a Western Digital Media player?


Connecting the 3TB+ HD's to that (It has 2 USB ports)


Then connecting the WD Media Player to the TV?


Hmm it won't let me post the URL....

So long as the WD player recognizes GPT partitioning, that will work. It should, AFAIK.

The problem with the TV is a 2 TB upper limit, as mentioned. That's because a partition over 2 TB must be partitioned as GPT (GUID Partition Table), not the older MBR (Master Boot Record) partitioning. As you've found, your particular TV won't recognize GPT partitions. Nor will my LG 65LW6500. I suspect my Sharp 70LE640U won't either, though I haven't tried a 3 TB drive on it yet.

I tried the workaround with Seagate software for partitioning a 3 TB drive into two equal sized MBR partitions. That worked in my computer, but apparently my LG can only recognize one partition at a time on a physical drive. So I think you're stuck with 2 TB drives or getting a media player like the WD.

Good luck.

[EDIT] As mentioned, external drives powered by the USB port can be problematic. Best to use an external with an AC adapter. Otherwise, you'll need a USB splitter to provide power from two ports, or a powered USB hub.
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I ended up with a WDTV player. It handles everything well, file types, wrappers, sound, subs. It's bulletproof for USB. My only beef is no Amazon. I wonder if the new Roku 3 is as flexible as the WD.

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I just use a Tripp-Lite U215-004-R USB 2.0 Printer Sharing Switch - 4x USB B Female Ports, 480Mbps, USB Powered hub on my tv i have it connected to my computer and blu ray player and TV at the same time so if i wanna watch what is on the 2TB HDD from my tv no switching USB wires just use my computer or the Hard switch on top the device to switch between the devices i want to use i first had to enable the USB hub service in the service menu on my tv but before i bought my tv and blu ray player i did extensive research so what files my tv cant play my Blu ray player can and vise versa -i have a LG 5600 tv and a sony Blu ray player i also Ripped all DVD and blu ray disk to my HDDs and play them off my HDD and i put my Disks in to storage so they will not get scratched up or lost i can also use the DNLA feature from my tv but i dont like the over all features of it but this is my work around..
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might be preaching to the converted on this one but a lot of TV's / dvd players only accept external drives if they are formatted with FAT32 - if you use NTFS they wont recognise the format and so they wont see the files - hope this helps
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im planning to buy an 80gig hard drive
i have a 29 inch sharp aquos led tv
the exact model is Sharp Aquos 29 Inch LC-29LE440M
I just wanna know first if this LED TV will recognize the HARD DRIVE
can anyone help me please
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Weird Issue with my hard disk

Bought a new Sony LED TV - SONY KDL-R470
Connected my old external hard disk - Western Digital My Passport- 320GB through USB port
The tv detected the external storage device, playing all the movies.
Now i connect the hard disk back to my PC\Laptop and it is not being detected. i tried 3-4 laptops and not being detected in any of them.
Tried running the 7-Data recovery tool but it does not detect anything.
Now i connect it back to the TV again, and the TV is able to detect all the files\folder.
All the files are being detected only on the TV but not on any PC\Laptop.
I have not written any file onto this hard disk from TV.


Please help!!
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Bought a new Sony LED TV - SONY KDL-R470
Connected my old external hard disk - Western Digital My Passport- 320GB through USB port
The tv detected the external storage device, playing all the movies.
Now i connect the hard disk back to my PC\Laptop and it is not being detected. i tried 3-4 laptops and not being detected in any of them.
Tried running the 7-Data recovery tool but it does not detect anything.
Now i connect it back to the TV again, and the TV is able to detect all the files\folder.
All the files are being detected only on the TV but not on any PC\Laptop.
I have not written any file onto this hard disk from TV.


Please help!!
That hard drive is USB powered. No separate power supply. It seems your computers cannot supply enough power via USB. You need a powered USB hub or an external *powered* hard drive (i.e. with a "wall wart" adapter).
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the hard disk was working fine with all the PCs and laptop before i connected it to the Sony TV, after connecting to the TV i'm facing this issue. Now its only being detected on the TV, when i connect to my laptop it takes a long time to populate in 'My Computer' and it says this disk needs formatting. i'm unable to read any data present in this harddisk from Laptop\Desktop.
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