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I purchased a samsung 40" lcd (ln40d503) during black friday. Yes, I got snookered into standing in line for a door buster, but when that was gone, this seemed like a great alternative.

I am EXTREMELY pleased with the picture quality. I won't exaggerate and say it's like 'being there' or looking into a window; nonetheless, the picture quality is excellent.

My main qualm with this tv is the lack of connectivity options (by 2011 standards):

1. It's only got 2 hdmi ins, and I really require 3 or 4.

2. It doesn't have audio out for me to hook up speakers directly to the tv.

Here are my options:

If I get the samsung ln40d550 with 4 hdmi, will I also be able to hook up speakers directly to the tv? Thanks.
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Those of us who have receivers bypasses this kind of problem ezly, *but* doesn't sound like that's where ur going so go4rit, buy what works 4ru.

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I'm considering getting an entry level receiver. However:

1. I prefer to hook up sources directly to the tv (no possibility of signal degradation, however remote).

2. I would prefer to use a 2.1 speaker system; I don't want to bother with wiring the entire room for a 5.1, nor deal with the expense.
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If it is not up to your "requirements" .. take it back

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No tvs allow direct speaker hook up. You'll need a receiver for any tv if you want external speakers. For 2.1 just run an optical out from the tv to an optical in on the receiver.

You can buy an HDMI switch which may be a better idea as it's not too expensive and you like the tv you have. The picture is the most important factor. I'd keep it and get an HDMI switch.

http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&key...l_2zwo4d5alg_b
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The Samsung LNxx550D models have an analog audio line output.
This would work with "amplified" speakers like used with PCs, not plain passive (non-amplified) speakers that are designed to connect to an audio receiver.
However amplified speakers don't have remote controlled volume and the audio output is a fixed line output that isn't affected by the TVs volume control.
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In order to provide less expensive sets for Black Friday sales, they dumb down some of their mainstream models to provide a low price (remove features/functionality) and change the last digit in the model number, from 0 to 3. When reading the detailed specifications and/or user reviews, the dumbing down is very apparent.

Since this was a special Black Friday offering, the Samsung site shows the LN40503 as no longer available.

The standard LN40D550 does have both digital audio (optical) and analog (mini-jack) audio outputs and (4) HDMI.
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OP...are you saying the display has nothing for audio out?
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Isn't the point now moot, it's been 6 weeks since BF.

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I don't think the tv has an audio out. It seems like my options are:

1. an audio receiver (no need for an hdmi switch)

2. return for a new tv with more hdmi ins and audio out

Returns are accepted through jan. 24.


Are there any tests which show that receivers do or do not affect picture quality? The consensus seems to be that with digital bits there is no degradation, except with very long cable runs, which will not be an issue in my case (2 6 ft. cables or a 3 and 6 ft. cable in and out of the receiver to the tv.

That makes sense but I don't have the data to back it up.

edit: yes, this is a black friday special, but the picture quality is so stunning, I would very much like to keep the tv.
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A receiver isn't going to hurt the picture quality. Any new receiver will allow for a simple signal pass through, which will not do anything to the video signal.

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What A/V receivers do you recommend in the $200 - $325 range?

I only want to hook up a 2.1 for now.
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Check the forum for receivers for advice:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=90
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If you want to run external speakers but have no audio out it seems a little self defeating to purchase a black friday display and then end up having to purchase a receiver to do so?
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I'm considering getting an entry level receiver. However:

1. I prefer to hook up sources directly to the tv (no possibility of signal degradation, however remote).

2. I would prefer to use a 2.1 speaker system; I don't want to bother with wiring the entire room for a 5.1, nor deal with the expense.

I would bet you $5.00 that you couldn't tell the difference between running the inputs direct to the TV or to a receiver. A receiver also allows much easier switching than having to change both the input on the TV and on the receiver.
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There is a con for going source -> AVR -> TV, sumtimes, the devices don't play nice together and handshake incorrectly, resulting in well... inconvenience.

Sorry to throw u that monkey wrench.

And for the rest of u, think twice next time whether it's worth it to wake up 4 a.m. and take ur chances.

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I would bet you $5.00 that you couldn't tell the difference between running the inputs direct to the TV or to a receiver. A receiver also allows much easier switching than having to change both the input on the TV and on the receiver.

Only $5? lol, I do agree that a receiver would be great for managing all the connections for now and in the future.
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If you want to run external speakers but have no audio out it seems a little self defeating to purchase a black friday display and then end up having to purchase a receiver to do so?

I can use the money I save to buy a receiver.
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Stop throwing out hypothetical disaster scenarios when you don't even know what equipment is being used. Oh, and stop being a grumpy troll.

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There is a con for going source -> AVR -> TV, sumtimes, the devices don't play nice together and handshake incorrectly, resulting in well... inconvenience.

Sorry to throw u that monkey wrench.

And for the rest of u, think twice next time whether it's worth it to wake up 4 a.m. and take ur chances.

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I ran my blu ray player through an hdmi switcher. It still looks stunning. Total cost: under $20.

I can run the computer through the switcher as well, but need a separate connection for sound; I'll likely get a 2.1 setup for the computer.
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