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mjg1983's Avatar mjg1983
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Hey guys, I recently got the Panasonic TC-L32C3, which is a 720p LCD with IPS-Alpha panel. I really like the TV, but this weekend I suddenly was like "rahh I need the full 1080p" so I started calling all my local Best Buy's and Sears stores, and apparently none of them have *any* Panasonic 32" 1080p tv's, not the L32U3 which is the 1080p model of mine, nor the L32E3 which is the 1080p LED-LCD.

Does anyone know why Panasonic is discontinuing all their 32" 1080p's?

And of course, there is nothing else like it by any other brand. Only Panasonic have the IPS-alpha panel which provides a great response time for FPS games.

Should I be that miffed about having only 720p on my 32"? I really decided I wanted 1080 just to have the full 1:1 native HD pixel-perfect image but if I can't find them, I will have to settle with the 720p.

Wahh somebody make me feel batter
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Hey guys, I recently got the Panasonic TC-L32C3, which is a 720p LCD with IPS-Alpha panel. I really like the TV, but this weekend I suddenly was like "rahh I need the full 1080p" so I started calling all my local Best Buy's and Sears stores, and apparently none of them have *any* Panasonic 32" 1080p tv's, not the L32U3 which is the 1080p model of mine, nor the L32E3 which is the 1080p LED-LCD.

Does anyone know why Panasonic is discontinuing all their 32" 1080p's?

And of course, there is nothing else like it by any other brand. Only Panasonic have the IPS-alpha panel which provides a great response time for FPS games.

Should I be that miffed about having only 720p on my 32"? I really decided I wanted 1080 just to have the full 1:1 native HD pixel-perfect image but if I can't find them, I will have to settle with the 720p.

Wahh somebody make me feel batter

try a 37", it should be 1080p

32" 1080p sets are still relatively uncommon and the models that do exist are sometimes not sold in many b&m stores.
mjg1983's Avatar mjg1983
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The 32" is all that fits in the armoire.

It sucks that Panasonic discontinued this range of tv's so quickly... they were only on the US market for less than a year it seems like. Would have liked to get the 1080p model but the 720p is just going to have to do.

Another question I have... this particular model will accept 1080p signal, do you think it would be better to send it 1080p or 720p considering it's a 768p native set? Does it matter if the image is upscaled or downscaled? I assume the tv is designed to take a 720p signal and "make it look great" so it probably doesn't matter if I send it 720p or 1080p?
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The 32" is all that fits in the armoire.

It sucks that Panasonic discontinued this range of tv's so quickly... they were only on the US market for less than a year it seems like. Would have liked to get the 1080p model but the 720p is just going to have to do.

Another question I have... this particular model will accept 1080p signal, do you think it would be better to send it 1080p or 720p considering it's a 768p native set? Does it matter if the image is upscaled or downscaled? I assume the tv is designed to take a 720p signal and "make it look great" so it probably doesn't matter if I send it 720p or 1080p?

You can try both 1080i/p and 720p, but 720p might be optimal for your set.
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Since the native resolution is probably 1366x768, its better to send it a higher resolution and scale it down, rather than a lower resolution (720p=1280x720) and scale up.
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Since the native resolution is probably 1366x768, its better to send it a higher resolution and scale it down, rather than a lower resolution (720p=1280x720) and scale up.

in theory, yes

but it would be a better idea to check which looks better overall since the TV may not scale down a 1080i/p signal properly
mjg1983's Avatar mjg1983
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I already tried and literally couldn't tell a difference. And I was pixel peeping. But laws of physics tell me if the xbox is sending it a 1080p, and the TV clearly recognizes and accepts 1080p, then it must be built to downscale 1080p as well as upscale 720p, right?

And with these 768p LCD's, 100% of your images are going to be scaled anyways so downscaling should lead to a technically cleaner image because nothing is being "Blown up", right?
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At 32" you really won't be able to tell the difference between the two resolutions, so I wouldn't worry a bit. Enjoy your nice TV.
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Samsung makes 32" 1080p TV's and picture quality is outstanding.
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Best Buy currently has a l32U3 for sale found here:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panasoni...32u3&cp=1&lp=1

Agree Panasonics are so much better for picture/gaming.
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If your current 720p Panny can pixel map 1:1 then your best possible Xbox 360 image will probably be via VGA and setting to 1360x768 (you'll lose a few pixel rows but the image should look sharper with minimal lag).

Jason
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Does anyone know why Panasonic is discontinuing all their 32" 1080p's?

Discontinuing or at the beginning stage of clearance/model refresh? Only time will tell, or maybe a press announcement.

LG currently has 32" 1080P IPS on store shelves, and most other brands have 32" VA 1080P as mentioned prior.
mjg1983's Avatar mjg1983
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Best Buy currently has a l32U3 for sale found here:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panasoni...32u3&cp=1&lp=1

Agree Panasonics are so much better for picture/gaming.

If you look it says "Not Available for Shipping" and you have to check store availability. None of the stores in the Seattle area carry them, nor do the Sears stores, and Amazon has it listed as a discontinued model as I believe Newegg does as well. And at the Panasonic site only the 720p model has links available for sell.

Not a big deal, I'm just going to stick with the 720p model. I really like the design of the Panasonic and don't like the design of the competing LG and Samsung models as much.
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If your current 720p Panny can pixel map 1:1 then your best possible Xbox 360 image will probably be via VGA and setting to 1360x768 (you'll lose a few pixel rows but the image should look sharper with minimal lag).

Jason

I'm pretty satisfied with the image @ 720p through HDMI. I've decided it's really the Xbox 360 hardware that is the limiting factor as far as the image quality goes. It's 2005-era hardware trying to do HD games and as a result all the textures are low resolution and there is virtually zero anti-aliasing, so the games are kind of a mess. (Call of Duty, for example is rendered at 600p bleh) I'm really looking forward to the next-gen of consoles (Xbox 720/PS4) as I believe they will provide a much better HD gaming experience.
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