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post #61 of 69 Old 02-03-2012, 04:18 AM
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MY 5 yr old Westinghouse accept 1080p, has perfect 444 Chroma and short input delay on PC input, has very good viewing angles: things very few name brands back then could match and many can't today, 5yrs later.

Pete correct me if i'm wrong but you're referring to the Westinghouse LVM W1 or W3 (?)

If so then your display, and it's firmware, was purposely built to be a PC monitor so it may not be the greatest example to use in the context of this "TV" discussion.

1:1 pixel ratio, 4:4:4 Chroma and it's 32ms input lag would be a considered a "minimum" for a PC monitor.

Westinghouse displays were also more highly regarded back in the day, a bit, but unfortunately the company has changed hands once or twice since then and slipped another notch in status.
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It is w3, it was an example to make a point, I've no idea how is Westinghouse now, no it wasn't computer monitor, it didn't have tuner because digital was too expensive and analog was on the way out, redundant for most who had cable anyway, but it had 2 component inputs and I think Faroudja processor was either inside W1 or W3, totally useless for PC. It was multipurpose device for sure and it had right stuff.
But the point is some no name brands could be diamonds in the rough and you really need to compare individual model to model.

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Pete correct me if i'm wrong but you're referring to the Westinghouse LVM W1 or W3 (?)

If so then your display, and it's firmware, was purposely built to be a PC monitor so it may not be the greatest example to use in the context of this "TV" discussion.

1:1 pixel ratio, 4:4:4 Chroma and it's 32ms input lag would be a considered a "minimum" for a PC monitor.

Westinghouse displays were also more highly regarded back in the day, a bit, but unfortunately the company has changed hands once or twice since then and slipped another notch in status.

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Glad you got a tv. Hope you like it but mot of all just ENJOY it. Dont get caught up in all the bs that ppl love to talk about. You should be fine with the PQ, just remember your not meant to get real close to a tv. All tvs have some imperfections if you look close enough, as I said just ENOJY it.

Yeah it's a bit overwhelming..I am beating myself over the head right now with this burn in and settings stuff..but D-Nice doesn't have settings for this set so I am worried to even turn the thing on and use it til I can figure out the best procedure to "break it in" and stuff.

Still curious if those screen door effects that looks like dithering is normal?

Not a big deal since it looks GREAT when you aren't standing on top of it..just curious
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Still curious if those screen door effects that looks like dithering is normal?

Yes, it is common with plasmas.
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Yes, it is common with plasmas.

Thanks for the confirmation..I had a little spare time finally to do some researchand did find that plasma dithering is normal. I never sit close to my TV so it's not a concern..and from my couch I can't even see it..plus they say it improves a little after burn-in period.

I just wanted to make sure it wasn't a defect.

Now if I can just find the proper method to "burn-in" and then good visual settings I will be good to go.

Hate being stuck at work right now, with the TV off at home when it could have been running patterns or whatnot.
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Relax and enjoy. You don't have to run 100 hours of break-in slides while muttering incantations to the gods of phosphor wear or perform any ritual sacrifices of family pets.

It's ok to watch a movie with black bars or some 4/3 content, Just don't do it for 12 hours at a time or walk away from a paused video game for hours at a time.

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Ive never done anything special with my Samsung 63" Plasma. I turn it on when I want to watch it n turn it off when im not. Heck sometimes it stays on for 8 hrs. Ive had it for over a year and its fine. Actual burn-ins r rare these days but still possible. Stuck images r more likely and can be fixed with the screen burn-in proctection that is built into all Plasmas.
Ive watched it with all kinds of content, widescreen with black bars and HD with side bars, never had a issue. I have even paused my bluray player but my player is good enough so that it will either have a moving logo or it will simply turn off when it is paused longer than 5 minutes.
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I'd rather go with a prior year name brand than with a current "no brand". And by "no brand", I'm including those former U.S. brands like Westinghouse, Emerson, Polaroid and others which are nothing more than Chinese-designed sets in which the Chinese companies have licensed the old brand. I bet we soon see Chinese sets with the brand Kodak on them. The Philips sets that are sold in the U.S. are also a Chinese license.

Also note that Wal-Mart and warehouse stores like Costco, Sam's Club and BJs often get models that are designed just for them. Sometimes these models are exactly the same as an existing model and have a different model number just so consumers won't think it's the same set and complain that the price is much higher in other stores and so other retailers won't complain. But other times, the slightly different model is the same design as the regular model, but uses cheaper parts or has a bit of functionality left out.

But I think the poster above has it right: if you don't care how long it lasts and it's just a guest room or dorm room set and PQ doesn't make all that much difference, go for it.

Phillips makes some nice TVs I had their old 30" CRT model and it was awesome right up to the point that someone stole it....

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Phillips makes some nice TVs I had their old 30" CRT model and it was awesome right up to the point that someone stole it....

They MADE nice tvs years ago. But they r not the same company they once were. CRTs have come n gone. Yes they were good, maybe even some of the best tvs for longivity but they r over with. Same with RCA, Zeneth(owned by LG now) and Magnovox. They all were once big names but not anymore. There quality is so-so(sometimes is just fugly) and reliability has been known not to be great.
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